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Minmatar in the Gallente Federation

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Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#21 - 2012-07-11 22:24:57 UTC
Salena Ashera wrote:
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Forming a third of the Federation's total population, the Minmatar are the largest immigrant bloc in the nation, taking up a large portion of labor occupations and frontline military units.


I'd never even considered that one in three citizens of the Gallente Federation were Minmatar, this idea made my jaw drop at the realisation. The ethnic Minmatar are the largest immigrant bloc in the nation. We wield a tremendous amount of political power and yet its so infrequently considered. This leaves me with a question though, what are the percentages of the other ethnicity's in the Federation? Are the Gallente still the majority ethnic group?

I feel uncomfortable saying this, but please remember that it's currently 'hip' to be Minmater in the Federation. You'll get lots of people running around claiming that their great-great-grandmother was a Matari shaman and they'll claim that on a census form despite that being less than 1/8th of their genetic ancestry and their having no link to the Minmater language or culture.

The Federation is a melting pot and a very, very good one.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Calliste Gessenier
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-07-11 22:50:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Calliste Gessenier
Makkal Hanaya wrote:
I feel uncomfortable saying this, but please remember that it's currently 'hip' to be Minmater in the Federation. You'll get lots of people running around claiming that their great-great-grandmother was a Matari shaman and they'll claim that on a census form despite that being less than 1/8th of their genetic ancestry and their having no link to the Minmater language or culture.

The Federation is a melting pot and a very, very good one.


I suppose it's one thing to claim Minmatar heritage on a census form and another to have your ass hauled towards an airlock when you make the same claim to a Tribalist in error. Deserved, I'd say.

I will only add that just because something is a fad, a trend or the next 'hip' thing in the Federation does not mean it's in good taste. I remember when it used to be trendy in the Federation for men to wear translucent plastic man-blouses and "fashionable" coiffure. I never found it particularly tasteful myself, but ah, I suppose hipsters will always have to be hip, eh?

Addendum: To further address Mlle. Hanaya's point though, no, I wouldn't say the trillions of Minmatar that live in the Federation are all casually cool hipsters with tribal tattoos desperately trying to be counter-culture by claiming whatever tenuous links they may have with the Minmatar people and culture.
Velarra
#23 - 2012-07-12 05:46:45 UTC
Perhaps the Federal service industry, consumerism, resulting debts and so very frequent mortgages are slightly more palatable to some "liberated" Minmatar than Imperial methods of...
Calliste Gessenier
Doomheim
#24 - 2012-07-12 06:01:35 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Perhaps the Federal service industry, consumerism, resulting debts and so very frequent mortgages are slightly more palatable to some "liberated" Minmatar than Imperial methods of...


I admit I chuckled and rolled my eyes at this.

How trite.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-07-12 06:11:04 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Perhaps the Federal service industry, consumerism, resulting debts and so very frequent mortgages are slightly more palatable to some "liberated" Minmatar than Imperial methods of...


I added emphasis to your post.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21

Nakal Ashera
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-07-12 11:23:32 UTC
Velarra wrote:
Perhaps the Federal service industry, consumerism, resulting debts and so very frequent mortgages are slightly more palatable to some "liberated" Minmatar than Imperial methods of...


Not to be pedantic, but you can default on a mortgage, yet not on a slave collar. It seems a little alarmist to imply the two are almost on the same level.
Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#27 - 2012-07-12 17:47:13 UTC
I read a Thing, in which it described the life of many an ethnic Minmatar denizen of the Federation.

Where every day, it is dull, repetitive labour, for a pittance.

The reason they only earn a pittance, is because if they were to request a raise in pay, then they would become uneconomic, as CreoDron products become competitive at those prices.

A person can only work for say 10 hours a day. the drone would be twice that, even allowing for maintenance. Therefore the upper boundary for a labourer's pay is half of what it costs to hire a drone for the same task.

And drones get cheaper every year. Progress. Yaay.

So, the ethnic Minmatar labourer, earning a pittance, and spending it all on housing and food, because that is all that a pittance covers, are they really any better off than they might be in the Empire. Maybe.

However, the ethnic Minmatar labourer, is "Free". Free to get injured in their job, and unable to work, and face losing their meagre home. Free to become desperate, and fall into the grasping claws of the Serpentis or Cartel, who offer them a years pay for a days work. Free to take that offer, and become a criminal, and be sent to prison by the Federation.

Federal Minmatar are kept by the Federation to be cheap, disposable workers, that in effect subsidise the bloated bureaucracy of the Federation, keeping millions of bureaucrats busy in the social work departments, police and justice departments, and so on.

So, hard labour every day to keep an Unrighteous Holder in a life of luxury, or a Meddling Bureacrat in a similar life of luxury.


But you don't see Ushra'khan setting fire to Gallente strip clubs shouting "we come for our people", as they rescue the dancers.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

William Nimitz
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-07-12 22:45:46 UTC
Valerie Valate wrote:
But you don't see Ushra'khan setting fire to Gallente strip clubs shouting "we come for our people", as they rescue the dancers.
Well their was that one time, except I think it was a pleasure yacht they mistook for a battleship.

It is a symptom of madness that thoughts become uncontrollably disjointed. This can be encouraged.

Gabriel Darkefyre
Gradient
Electus Matari
#29 - 2012-07-12 23:53:13 UTC
Andreus Ixiris wrote:

- The third does not identify more strongly with one parent than the other, and puts down "Mixed Race (Gallentean/Sebiestor)". He considers himself a Federal first and foremost.


When I last filled in the Federal Census, that was close to the option I ended up selecting.

Out of 7 Pages of choices through virtually every possible conceivable combination of Genetype out there, including "Other"
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