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Real life markets begining to emulate Eve markets
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Zeerover
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2011-10-09 15:39:45 UTC
In this article, there are several new trading tactics of the real world stock exchanges being discussed. One thing that struck me was "hey I've seen this before", especially the layering tactic - large orders that will never be filled.

I'm wondering if us eve players can get a second career out of advising the real world markets on "legit market manipulation", since some of the innovative stuff here seems far ahead of that simple tactic.

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Zeta Zhul
Preemptive Paranoia
#2 - 2011-10-09 15:58:12 UTC
Hey the spammers in Jita have nothing on the Nigerian scammers of Craig's List.

Big smile
Zeerover
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2011-10-09 16:55:26 UTC
Zeta Zhul wrote:
Hey the spammers in Jita have nothing on the Nigerian scammers of Craig's List.

Big smile


Might be true:)

I was more thinking about the "sell contract an item for high price" + "place a buy order at an even higher price, but without enough money to actually complete the buy order if someone sells to you" type setups.

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Ave Volta
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-10-09 19:17:23 UTC
Zeerover wrote:
I'm wondering if us eve players can get a second career out of advising the real world markets on "legit market manipulation", since some of the innovative stuff here seems far ahead of that simple tactic.


Considering the amount of real money at stake, and the droves of highly paid quants on wall street and elsewhere, I can guarantee you that they are way ahead of us.

Clearly it's a matter of using tactics that don't garner too much attention. Making money while still flying under the radar of the regulators is the most important thing I would imagine.

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Alain Kinsella
#5 - 2011-10-11 10:17:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Alain Kinsella
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In addition, officials in Europe, Canada and the United States are considering imposing fees aimed at limiting trading volume or paying for the cost of greater oversight.


Two words: Good Luck!

Ave has hit the nail. As I said on scc-lounge nearly two years ago, if they changed the limits on Dark Pools they will just change the system input filters and re-release. Same goes for anything computerized really - most large firms have embraced the 'constant release' model so it won't take long to get a workaround in.

Real solutions are scarce really. Main one would be to never allow a computer to submit a trade/order on its own (which is happening today). Problem is, how do you track that?

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Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2011-10-11 11:09:36 UTC
lol
Adunh Slavy
#7 - 2011-10-11 11:20:27 UTC
Zeerover wrote:
Zeta Zhul wrote:
Hey the spammers in Jita have nothing on the Nigerian scammers of Craig's List.

Big smile


Might be true:)

I was more thinking about the "sell contract an item for high price" + "place a buy order at an even higher price, but without enough money to actually complete the buy order if someone sells to you" type setups.



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