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moon mining

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Sev Centuar
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-07-09 12:50:18 UTC
hi my corp is looking for some help to build a moon harvesting array. you could join our corp or just help out. anyone?
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#2 - 2012-07-09 22:29:02 UTC
I can run you a copy of a moon mining array any any race Hauler BPC, then all you gotta do is get the minerals IN that system and your set to do it on your own.

Or you can just find those 2 on the market and just get those.
Curcaryen Varantir
Cabal.
#3 - 2012-07-10 09:42:49 UTC
I hope you are aware of all the efforts that come along with moon mining/reactions Blink
I do too plan on putting up several large towers (yeah right, not on this toon) and did loads of calculations and research.
Even when you have all that planning stuff done, you have to be aware that you will need capabilities to defend your towers (it won't take long 'til a bunch of bored pirates will bash your towers with a couple of capitals - even worse: if it's actually a good moon it's the larger alliances that you should be aware of) - but if you set it up right and can defend it, it makes a nice source of income - the more you invest, the more effort, the more you get.


PS: Test your intended setup on SiSi and see if everything works the way you want, saves you a lot of trouble Lol
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-10 13:36:29 UTC
Unless you have access to one of the more lucrative moons, and the defense to keep it, you should be sure to do the math before you deploy the POS.

Most low-sec moons can't pay for the POS fuel, and the once that give a profit usually don't pay more then 1-2M isk a day, which hardly make it worth it to haul the moon materials. Depending on how much you invest in setting up the POS it can easily take you 3-6 months before, you see any real profit.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Miss Boobz
Doomheim
#5 - 2012-07-10 15:10:23 UTC
However, mining the moon can participate to pay the fuel if it's a research POS, even if the raw materials mined are cheap : it's better than nothing.
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#6 - 2012-07-10 15:38:18 UTC
There is also the possibility that lower-end moon minerals may see an up-tick in value when the changes to alchemy come into play. Accumulating a bunch of the lower moon minerals may pay off big....or it might do nothing. Such is the risk of speculation.

If my research is correct, you could also use a POS that is on an otherwise crappy moon to run reactions, where you supply the raw mats and get the higher-end mats in return. I haven't run the numbers to see if that can complete with just flat-out extracting moon goo and selling it.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Sev Centuar
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-10 16:39:20 UTC
so some of you guys ae willing to give a hand in the project?
Miss Boobz
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-07-10 17:00:10 UTC
Do your homeworks Sev. You do not need several people to do the maths and anchor a Moon Harvester Blink
Spreadsheets are your friends, just take the time to plan it.
Sev Centuar
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-07-10 20:17:01 UTC
actualy we have done planing. we know what we must get but only with little help.
Zetaomega333
High Flyers
#10 - 2012-07-10 20:51:45 UTC
Sev Centuar wrote:
actualy we have done planing. we know what we must get but only with little help.



No you dont need any help, you need to either stop trolling or stop being lazy, If i alone can manage 30 moon mining pos's and the reactions you can manage what ever small setup your going to do.
Amarok Tonrar
Hellhound Productions
#11 - 2012-07-10 21:04:42 UTC
Likely a troll given the last response...

Seriously, if you've done your planning and you know what you must get....but need help to what? Set it up? Then you need to go back to the planning stage because your obviously not ready for what it involves. It's really not that overly complicated and there's PLENTY of tutorials out there to give you direction.

(but my wager is fail pvpers looking to lure someone out to their empty hunting grounds for some easy kills)
dexington
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-11 06:22:42 UTC
Miss Boobz wrote:
However, mining the moon can participate to pay the fuel if it's a research POS, even if the raw materials mined are cheap : it's better than nothing.


This is very try, but unless you are in protected 0.0 space it very unpractical if you are not already living in low-sec. With the right skills you can manage your research from hi-sec, you you still need to go to low-sec to pick the mined materials, refuel the POS, move blueprints, etc.

Pinstar Colton wrote:
If my research is correct, you could also use a POS that is on an otherwise crappy moon to run reactions, where you supply the raw mats and get the higher-end mats in return. I haven't run the numbers to see if that can complete with just flat-out extracting moon goo and selling it.


You need a medium or large POS, depending on what reactions you are making, and the fuel costs eats most of the profits. Considering the work involved in hauling the materials needed and selling the product, it's hardly worth it.


Unless you live in low/null-sec, you are going to have a really hard time making a decent profit of moon mining. Considering the investment and the chance of loosing the POS or a hauler, it can easily turn into a high risk long term project, before you see any profit.

I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

Pipa Porto
#13 - 2012-07-11 07:23:26 UTC
Sev Centuar wrote:
actualy we have done planing. we know what we must get but only with little help.


Give me a Directorship, and I'll do it. Pirate

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Miss Boobz
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-07-11 08:56:11 UTC
dexington wrote:
Miss Boobz wrote:
However, mining the moon can participate to pay the fuel if it's a research POS, even if the raw materials mined are cheap : it's better than nothing.


This is very try, but unless you are in protected 0.0 space it very unpractical if you are not already living in low-sec. With the right skills you can manage your research from hi-sec, you you still need to go to low-sec to pick the mined materials, refuel the POS, move blueprints, etc.


That was just an idea among many others, to constitutes passive revenue.

It is obvious that you need to be in at least in LS to make Reaction or/and Moongo...
Plus, anybody know what Production/Invention/Research/POS in LS/0.0 involve in terms of logistic.

That is why I recommended the OP to properly plan his project before making any decision.

MB
Louis Vitton
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-07-12 05:23:52 UTC
Hey guys,

I have run POS networks before and someone who makes the logisics easyer is Black Frog Freight. They dont comes dirty cheap but their price is good and they always deliver.
Most low sec contracts done with in 24 hours

:)
Miss Boobz
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-07-12 07:01:30 UTC
Gratz, It can be done in simple industrial ship or transport ship. It is more difficult than a JF but doable.
Most of my friends did it that way until they could afford a JF.
Sev Centuar
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-07-12 16:05:50 UTC
we joining a new alaince and were going to use there POS....
so all we need to do is make the array and the silo wich is like
30m...
Pipa Porto
#18 - 2012-07-12 16:12:26 UTC
Sev Centuar wrote:
we joining a new alaince and were going to use there POS....
so all we need to do is make the array and the silo wich is like
30m...


OH! You're looking for a Loan. Why didn't you say so in the first place?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Hundo Kay
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-07-12 20:07:25 UTC
/me wonders if he knows Moon Mining is for Low/Null sec only??

Miss Boobz
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-07-13 08:26:23 UTC
Once everybody has discussed about moongo/reaction, I wonder what the OP is really asking Roll