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[Video] Rebirth 4 (Empire PVP)

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Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#81 - 2012-07-12 15:52:15 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:
Check out NightmareX's last loss on Eve-Kill and laugh at his ammo choice (hint: T1 PP & Barrage are not the only ammo you should carry in a Vagabond, nor should you use both a DCU and a Power Diagnostic) Big smile

NightmareX keep on thinking that you're at all better than the average lowsec/null sec PvPer, this thread delivers!


Did you forget to check the date when i had that loss?

FAAAAAAAAILURE Lol


Nope, that's literally your last loss (at least according to Eve-Kill).

And you still think you're taking risks?


I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.


By not taking challenging fights?
By not fighting without neutral RR?
Only flying into low sec when you have your friends + alliance mates with you "in case" you get hotdropped?

This is truly the behaviour of a player who takes risks. Lol

And yes, there is no shame in being risk averse. But being risk averse leads to boring PvP videos UNLESS if there is a real, interesting story behind it, neither of which your video has.
ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#82 - 2012-07-12 15:53:30 UTC
NightmareX wrote:


I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.

What?ShockedLol

The worst thing is that im actually convinced you mean what you write.

Quote:
Risk is the potential that a chosen action or activity (including the choice of inaction) will lead to a loss (an undesirable outcome). The notion implies that a choice having an influence on the outcome exists


If you do whatever you can to make sure you dont lose, then you dont take risks.

Risk is jumping into a gatecamp solo and hope you come out on top.
What you do is minimize risk, wich is not the same.

GM Guard > I must ask you not to use the petition option like this again but i personally would finish the chicken sandwich first so it won´t go to waste. The spaghetti will keep and you can use it the next time you get hungry. Best regards.

NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#83 - 2012-07-12 16:13:47 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:
By not taking challenging fights?
By not fighting without neutral RR?
Only flying into low sec when you have your friends + alliance mates with you "in case" you get hotdropped?

This is truly the behaviour of a player who takes risks. Lol

And yes, there is no shame in being risk averse. But being risk averse leads to boring PvP videos UNLESS if there is a real, interesting story behind it, neither of which your video has.


Why should we not use logistics when everyone else use it?

If we just stops using logistics, then we rather not fight, because we will just lose the fight flat out without that.

About the low sec fight. You did see the Archon we killed?

A good example on why we would need our friends with us so we can have enough DPS to kill stuffs. We killed several dreads and carriers that did belong to the same corp / alliance as the Archon is in before the fight started (that isn't in the video).

So i'm right about the things with the capital ships in low sec and by having friends with us.

You haven't been much in low sec if you think capital ships wont get used there to hot drop. And specially when we comes with a fleet with 30 ships.

ArmyOfMe wrote:
NightmareX wrote:


I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.

What?ShockedLol

The worst thing is that im actually convinced you mean what you write.

Quote:
Risk is the potential that a chosen action or activity (including the choice of inaction) will lead to a loss (an undesirable outcome). The notion implies that a choice having an influence on the outcome exists


If you do whatever you can to make sure you dont lose, then you dont take risks.

Risk is jumping into a gatecamp solo and hope you come out on top.
What you do is minimize risk, wich is not the same.


Is it any better to sit in a fight and gets repped by 100 carriers in a fight then?

That is absolutely no risks then. But oh well, the side who have the biggest blobs / capital ships wins anyways. That's how boring 0.0 space is.

Don't take me wrong though. I infact do like low sec quite alot when we actually can get fights there, like the fight in my movie. But the problem is that it's quite rare to come over those types of fights in low sec.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#84 - 2012-07-12 16:29:48 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
Why should we not use logistics when everyone else use it?

If we just stops using logistics, then we rather not fight, because we will just lose the fight flat out without that.

About the low sec fight. You did see the Archon we killed?

A good example on why we would need our friends with us. We killed several dreads and carriers that did belong to the same corp / alliance as the Archon is in before the fight started (that isn't in the video).

So i'm right about the things with the capital ships in low sec and by having friends with us.

You haven't been much in low sec if you think capital ships wont get used there to hot drop. And specially when we comes with a fleet with 30 ships.

Is it any better to sit in a fight and gets repped by 100 carriers in a fight then?

That is absolutely no risks then. But oh well, the side who have the biggest blobs / capital ships wins anyways. That's how boring 0.0 space is.

Don't take me wrong though. I infact do like low sec quite alot when we actually can get fights there, like the fight in my movie. But the problem is that it's quite rare to come over those types of fights in low sec.


Because you say your corp is "different"? I thought you stood out, but no it's the same HG implants with the same neutral alts with the same terrible fittings & piloting that is so classical of high sec pvp where the "pvpers" are too afraid to venture into low sec/null sec where their shinies might actually be at risk.

Logi =/= I WIN button, at least not by themselves. You CAN win fights without logi vs logi if you stop making the fights being a simple brawl at 0 and broadcast for reps. Use range to reduce incoming DPS, use Ewar (TDs/Damps etc.) for the same purpose.

I think you're under some kind of illusion that ALL pvp outside of high sec consists of multiple carriers. It really isn't like that. Tell me how many Carriers we use - http://tuskers.killmail.org/.

We have good fights DAILY on a CONSISTENT basis in low sec, in 10-15 man gangs. We record them - you can find the fights on FHC because these forums tend to have too much filler and not enough content.

And yes, you can roam null sec without any capitals or cynos and STILL get good fights. Oh wait - http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13658946

As for not pvping much in low sec, I LIVE THERE. 90+% of my fights are in there. Nearly ALL of my fights are from roaming and not camping a gate/station popping noobs.
Viribus
Dark Enlightenment
New Eden Alliance 99013733
#85 - 2012-07-12 16:43:47 UTC
NightmareX wrote:
That is absolutely no risks then. But oh well, the side who have the biggest blobs / capital ships wins anyways. That's how boring 0.0 space is.


You sure seem extremely informed, please tell us your opinions some more
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#86 - 2012-07-12 16:50:29 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:
Because you say your corp is "different"? I thought you stood out, but no it's the same HG implants with the same neutral alts with the same terrible fittings & piloting that is so classical of high sec pvp where the "pvpers" are too afraid to venture into low sec/null sec where their shinies might actually be at risk.

Logi =/= I WIN button, at least not by themselves. You CAN win fights without logi vs logi if you stop making the fights being a simple brawl at 0 and broadcast for reps. Use range to reduce incoming DPS, use Ewar (TDs/Damps etc.) for the same purpose.

I think you're under some kind of illusion that ALL pvp outside of high sec consists of multiple carriers. It really isn't like that. Tell me how many Carriers we use - http://tuskers.killmail.org/.

We have good fights DAILY on a CONSISTENT basis in low sec, in 10-15 man gangs. We record them - you can find the fights on FHC because these forums tend to have too much filler and not enough content.

And yes, you can roam null sec without any capitals or cynos and STILL get good fights. Oh wait - http://tuskers.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13658946

As for not pvping much in low sec, I LIVE THERE. 90+% of my fights are in there. Nearly ALL of my fights are from roaming and not camping a gate/station popping noobs.


When i say we are different, i mean that we have the balls to go into fights that no one else in empire would ever do. Even when we are outnumbered as we are in many fight, we are still doing pretty good stats wise.

And do you know the reasons why we are doing it so good stats wise?

It's because we are professionals at what we do and we know how to use our ships to the maximum. We know how to use the ships 100% fully out. And we know how to tackle tight situations.

This is the reason why we are different than other 'empire' PVP corps'es in EVE. Remember, i'm talking about those who are living in empire, not those who are living in low sec or 0.0 space.

There is a big reasons why so many players fears us in empire. Because when we say we are going to fight someone, then we will for sure bring a damn nice fight to.

But not sure if you have heard wrong or what, but it sounds to me that you think we ALWAYS are fighting with risks. I'm honest and will say we aren't doing that all the time. Just because i'm not getting shot in the movie doesn't means there is tons of risks.

EDIT: If we don't use logistics, then we will use Falcons. And then again, someone will cry booohoooo, you are using Falcons bla bla bla to.

We use logistics in empire as much as you guys use carriers in low sec or 0.0 space.

If someone want's all empire PVP videos to not have logistics / Falcons in it, then i want to see movies with fights in 0.0 space without any carriers, logistics and Falcons to.

Viribus wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
That is absolutely no risks then. But oh well, the side who have the biggest blobs / capital ships wins anyways. That's how boring 0.0 space is.


You sure seem extremely informed, please tell us your opinions some more


I have been living in 0.0 space for many many years. So no one needs to tell / inform me on how 0.0 space is.

Actually, i have been through quite alot. I have done 0.0 space PVP, piracy in low sec, empire PVP, market PVP, suiciding, missions, mining, ship building + other things i can't remember right now.

Because i have been playing since 2004, so i have done alot of things in those years.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

ry ry
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2012-07-12 16:56:44 UTC
You play Eve professionally?
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#88 - 2012-07-12 16:58:37 UTC
ry ry wrote:
You play Eve professionally?


Yeah, in the same way as you think you are pro for being in 0.0 space or low sec.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

ry ry
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2012-07-12 17:23:06 UTC  |  Edited by: ry ry
NightmareX wrote:
ry ry wrote:
You play Eve professionally?


Yeah, in the same way as you think you are pro for being in 0.0 space or low sec.

Far from it dude. I'm pretty terrible at eve - every time I have a fight I do something stupid, my knowledge of eve barely scratches the surface in truth. But I've been around a long time, I can fly loads of stuff and sometimes manage to survive a fight.

You on the other hand know it all already - there is nothing left for you to learn, as you sit hunkered down on the Rens undock pretending to be 'on a contract'.

Lucky you, eh?
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#90 - 2012-07-12 17:24:51 UTC
ry ry wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
ry ry wrote:
You play Eve professionally?


Yeah, in the same way as you think you are pro for being in 0.0 space or low sec.

Far from it dude. I'm pretty terrible at eve - every time I have a fight I do something stupid, my knowledge of eve barely scratches the surface in truth.

You on the other hand know it all already - there is nothing left for you to learn, as you sit hunkered down on the Rens undock pretending to be 'on a contract'


I did learn ALOT of things by joining Rebirth and i still learn something new every week.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

ry ry
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#91 - 2012-07-12 17:26:51 UTC
Like what?

You're doing the same thing day in day out, what are you learning every day?
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#92 - 2012-07-12 17:39:39 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
ry ry wrote:
Like what?

You're doing the same thing day in day out, what are you learning every day?


What do you learn then that you don't do every day then?

I learn how to use the ships i can use the right way so we have bigger chances of winning. Sometimes we changes on our fighting styles just to maximize our chances against others, because those we are fighting isn't used to fight the style we use then.

Yeah ofc, alot of what happens in empire is the same, in the same way as 0.0 space and low sec. The same happens there days out and days in that is called blobbing and ganking.

You don't learn something new by blobbing and ganking all the time.

Anyways, i think we are talking about the wrong things here now really. It should be about the movie.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Amantus
Drexciyan Sea Unit
SPACE DETROIT
#93 - 2012-07-12 18:06:41 UTC
xXxNiGhTmArExXx wrote:
Haha, it's so funny to see all of the butthurt 1.0 space fluffy carebears to be extremely jealous and angry on us because they failed to achieve anything in empire or lowsec or 0.0 and had to go to the carebear heaven called station undocks behind their 10k++++ logistics instead so they can feel safe and warm.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#94 - 2012-07-12 18:12:06 UTC
Amantus wrote:
xXxNiGhTmArExXx wrote:
Haha, it's so funny to see all of the butthurt 1.0 space fluffy carebears to be extremely jealous and angry on us because they failed to achieve anything in empire or lowsec or 0.0 and had to go to the carebear heaven called station undocks behind their 10k++++ logistics instead so they can feel safe and warm.


You seems desperate Lol

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Drealar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#95 - 2012-07-12 18:18:09 UTC
This thread is the worst.
NightmareX I genuinely feel sorry for you, in every way. I can't imagine the pain and heartache you put your family through. Get well soon.

-Drealar.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#96 - 2012-07-12 18:20:47 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Drealar wrote:
This thread is the worst.
NightmareX I genuinely feel sorry for you, in every way. I can't imagine the pain and heartache you put your family through. Get well soon.

-Drealar.


Then feel sorry for me. I'm all fine. Or, sure it's not your posts that is the worst?

I just have the guts to shoot back here when some 'i'm soo cool cuz i can smack and trollz' kids comes here and think they are so good at EVE Lol

There is some things in EVE that i really sucks at, but empire PVP / PVP is NOT one of those things.

If you think you are better than us, then war dec us and bring your fleets to us and lets see how that's gonna go for you Big smile.

And i will also make sure to fraps that fight if that ever happens.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

ry ry
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#97 - 2012-07-12 18:26:32 UTC  |  Edited by: ry ry
NightmareX wrote:
Drealar wrote:
This thread is the worst.
NightmareX I genuinely feel sorry for you, in every way. I can't imagine the pain and heartache you put your family through. Get well soon.

-Drealar.


Then feel sorry for me. I'm all fine. Or, sure it's not your posts that is the worst?

I just have the guts to shoot back here when some 'i'm soo cool cuz i can smack and trollz' kids comes here and think they are so good at EVE Lol

There is some things in EVE that i really sucks at, but empire PVP / PVP is NOT one of those things.

If you think you are better than us, then war dec us and bring your fleets to us and lets see how that's gonna go for you Big smile.

You are the only one in this thread who has said they're any good at eve. Several times actually.

Then again, at least you accept that you are bad at posting.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#98 - 2012-07-12 18:28:33 UTC
ry ry wrote:
NightmareX wrote:
Drealar wrote:
This thread is the worst.
NightmareX I genuinely feel sorry for you, in every way. I can't imagine the pain and heartache you put your family through. Get well soon.

-Drealar.


Then feel sorry for me. I'm all fine. Or, sure it's not your posts that is the worst?

I just have the guts to shoot back here when some 'i'm soo cool cuz i can smack and trollz' kids comes here and think they are so good at EVE Lol

There is some things in EVE that i really sucks at, but empire PVP / PVP is NOT one of those things.

If you think you are better than us, then war dec us and bring your fleets to us and lets see how that's gonna go for you Big smile.

You are the only one in this thread who has said they're any good at eve. Several times actually.

Then again, at least you accept that you are bad at posting.


It's as bad as yours. Happy now?

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama

Drealar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#99 - 2012-07-12 18:37:08 UTC
We did have a war with rebirth before.
In fact I caused it via random smack in local but I digress.
We had to bring an orca with us to get you to undock, and we were in t3 bc's. Ye undocked pirate battleships and t3's with at least 6 neutral RR. Was hilarious, would fight again. GG etc.
In other fun news, we were threatened with another rebirth wardec about a month ago when a corpmate wouldn't shoot a rat that had a rebirth member scrambled. That was pretty hilarious. Bet ye deleted that lossmail pretty fast eh? LOOOOOOOL


Seriously though. Pull your head out of your ass and look at what you're typing.
I'm actually beginning to think this whole thing is a massive troll, starting with you buying NightmareX, then making these PVP videos and culminating in threads like this. If so, wow, nice job.
NightmareX
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#100 - 2012-07-12 18:57:01 UTC  |  Edited by: NightmareX
Drealar wrote:
We did have a war with rebirth before.
In fact I caused it via random smack in local but I digress.
We had to bring an orca with us to get you to undock, and we were in t3 bc's. Ye undocked pirate battleships and t3's with at least 6 neutral RR. Was hilarious, would fight again. GG etc.
In other fun news, we were threatened with another rebirth wardec about a month ago when a corpmate wouldn't shoot a rat that had a rebirth member scrambled. That was pretty hilarious. Bet ye deleted that lossmail pretty fast eh? LOOOOOOOL


Seriously though. Pull your head out of your ass and look at what you're typing.
I'm actually beginning to think this whole thing is a massive troll, starting with you buying NightmareX, then making these PVP videos and culminating in threads like this. If so, wow, nice job.


And when was that fight?

I bet it was done before i joined them. So i can't speak for Rebirth if this is before i joined.

We will not waste time on peoples that doesn't have the balls to fight us and just dock up when we actually comes after you. So i bet you are using that argument just to make us look bad when in fact it was you that didn't had the balls to fight us that time when we had our fleet out. So you are just saying this because you finally had the balls to undock and tried to bait us with an Orca AFTER we was in deep sleep and snoring in station after nothing was happening from you. And then you think we didn't had the balls to undock when all of us was in sleep of boredom.

Ohnoes, we undocked in pirate ships and logistics. Did that make you butthurt because we have a much better fleet than you?

Ofc we will undock with whatever we have ready when we aren't sure on what our war targets have ready to fight us with.

Infact, it's easy to get us to go after you today, just bring a fleet and we will fight you. Bring whatever you like.

Not only that, when you start believing that someone have bought NightmareX, then i'm LOL'ing because your out of arguments then. Ofc i'm the original owner of NightmareX since i have been since i created her in 2004.

EDIT: You post are nothing more than shouting poor arguments after poor arguments. Just because you are out of things to say.

Here is a list of my current EVE / PVP videos:

1: Asteroid Madness

2: Clash of the Empires

3: Suddenly Spaceships fighting in Tama