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Zapphire
OBT.
#1 - 2012-07-12 05:40:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Zapphire
Hello,

Yup. It's that time again. But before you get all cranky on me about yet another thread concerning this, let it be known that this post is an attempt to give CCP an idea of what grinds my gears about it. If you are happy with the changes and are unwilling to enter into this discussion with positive feedback; move along. This thread does not welcome you. Hopefully I will express some concerns here that people agree with and maybe we can get some changes made to it.

I am not sure why this new system was implemented. Sometimes a developer just has to make changes to things. Meh. Whatever. It's in the game and it doesn't look like it is just going to vanish suddenly and we will return to the completely satisfactory way things have been done for 9 years.

I do not want to hear about "bots" and "macroers" and all the rest of the "reasons" why this new system exists. I do not care, nor is it relevant. Much like all rules and changes, they usually only end up screwing over the people that aren't breaking any rules or abusing things. Just like in Real Life. Sad. So, I give three banana peels about how this is "supposed to help alleviate blah blah blah". I don't care. This is a discussion that attempts to point out the papercuts experienced while using it.

*waves goodbye to the Old Way™ and grudgingly holds the door open for this new tennant...

Let's just get started here:

  1. Could you please fix it so that the "My Filters" section does not auto pop-up every single time I open the left-hand menu/list?
  2. Can you please fix it so that when I click the little arrows to minimize the "My Filters" section that I do not have to click it twice?
  3. Can you at least try and think of a way that we can control our inventory windows to some degree in regards to having more than one open? I think pinning should allow us to hold open a window if we choose. Some of us aren't botting!
  4. Can we please fix the code that "remembers" where things are placed on our UI?
  5. Is it possible that we could drag a window from the list to open a new one? Again: some of us aren't botting!
  6. Can we please be able to have Corp Hangars be a totally separate entitiy? Can this be an option? Even if I were a macrominer, I'm not sure that the Corp Hangars even has an impact here outside of some asshat using a capital industrial.

Some of the following may or may not be associated with the new inventory system. But I'm going to talk about them anyways. Here are some Spicy Chicken Nuggets from Wendy's™ for anyone who is butthurt over choosing to read this crap.

  1. Can we please have the UI remember that I had the Items tab (merged into my station services window) open when I undocked?
  2. Can we please not have the UI lose focus on the window I am using during a session change? I would really like to expand on this idea here:

Back In The Day™, one could start typing in a chat window and continue to type during a session change and everything seemed to go fine. Now™ one loses the focus on the active chat window and I have to grab the mouse again, and click back into the text box to continue typing. Annoying Level 9000. Whatever the hell you did, please return it to the Old Way™.

I think that is pretty much it for now. I'm sure there are a few things I forgot, or made a mistake on. Thankfully there is an EDIT button for these forums and I will be allowed to change or redact any errors.


Thank you for your time! Enjoy the chicken nuggets.


Zapphire

P.S. Keep the DISCUSSION positive, even if your OPINION about the topic isn't. If you can't understand the difference, I can't help you.

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Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#2 - 2012-07-12 05:42:41 UTC
In before lock and trolls.
Price Check Aisle3
#3 - 2012-07-12 05:44:02 UTC
This is still a terrible failure.
  • Karl Hobb IATS
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-07-12 05:44:33 UTC
Death to Wendy's! Power to Unified Inventory!

James315 for CSM 8!
Benjamin Eastwood
#5 - 2012-07-12 05:46:47 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
I believe that's twice now you've failed to place the thread in the proper forum.

-snip-

Please no trolling or persona attacks.

ISD Tyrozan

"Endless ISK, the sinews of war"
Proletariat Tingtango
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-07-12 05:48:43 UTC
Zapphire wrote:


Let's just get started here:

  1. Could you please fix it so that the "My Filters" section does not auto pop-up every single time I open the left-hand menu/list?
  2. Can you please fix it so that when I click the little arrows to minimize the "My Filters" section that I do not have to click it twice?
  3. Can you at least try and think of a way that we can control our inventory windows to some degree in regards to having more than one open? I think pinning should allow us to hold open a window if we choose. Some of us aren't botting!
  4. Can we please fix the code that "remembers" where things are placed on our UI?
  5. Is it possible that we could drag a window from the list to open a new one? Again: some of us aren't botting!
  6. Can we please be able to have Corp Hangars be a totally separate entitiy? Can this be an option? Even if I were a macrominer, I'm not sure that the Corp Hangars even has an impact here outside of some asshat using a capital industrial.

Some of the following may or may not be associated with the new inventory system. But I'm going to talk about them anyways. Here are some Spicy Chicken Nuggets from Wendy's™ for anyone who is butthurt over choosing to read this crap.

  1. Can we please have the UI remember that I had the Items tab (merged into my station services window) open when I undocked?
  2. Can we please not have the UI lose focus on the window I am using during a session change? I would really like to expand on this idea here:


1. No because this feature is really good, and I like it. It's useful.
2. Doubleclicking is a good deterrent against accidental clicking, this is a good feature.
3. No, because the current way is the best way. It's really handy.
4. Why? The defaults are the best configuration, customization would just make things worse when the system is already pretty well crafted.
5. No.
6. Uhh, they call it UNIFIED inventory for a reason! It's a good feature, this has to stay.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#7 - 2012-07-12 05:48:58 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Death to Wendy's! Power to Unified Inventory!

Wendy's isn't that bad.

Your average "Chinese" place is worse.
Americe Zane
The Lucky Punx
#8 - 2012-07-12 05:55:27 UTC
Will try to post something positive.

Op, some of your points are good. It would be a better use of your time to add them to an already F&I thread on this topic so that it has a greater chance of being seen by someone that can do something about it.

I'll pass on the Wendy's.





(ok, good deed for today done).
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-07-12 05:58:47 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Death to Wendy's! Power to Unified Inventory!

Wendy's isn't that bad.

Your average "Chinese" place is worse.


That is racist, but probably true...

Seriously, the Wendy's restaurants near me are terrible in almost every conceivable way. So perhaps it is just my area. I remember when I was a kid, I did like Wendy's, but they had a taco bar then, and that is the only thing I would eat there.

I believe more restaurants need Taco Bars. That is what this thread is about now.

James315 for CSM 8!
Zapphire
OBT.
#10 - 2012-07-12 06:00:11 UTC
Americe Zane wrote:
Will try to post something positive.

Op, some of your points are good. It would be a better use of your time to add them to an already F&I thread on this topic so that it has a greater chance of being seen by someone that can do something about it.

I'll pass on the Wendy's.

(ok, good deed for today done).


Thought about F&I. But then I saw the Issues, Workarounds & Localization thread. Because, yes, it is a discussion "about a feature". But, no, it is not a suggestion for a feature. True, it is a discussion that has ideas. But it is not a topic about a new idea. This is when I noticed the IW&L forum. Because at it's nature, the topic is about issues with the new inventory system. It also suggests workarounds. Localization does not come into play for this topic.

So, this is why the post was made in GD, and not one of the other OPTIONS.

If a moderator deems this post belongs in another forum, they will move it there. Until then, just discuss your opinions about my original post.

Thank you,

Zapphire.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1613701&#post1613701
Americe Zane
The Lucky Punx
#11 - 2012-07-12 06:00:40 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Death to Wendy's! Power to Unified Inventory!

Wendy's isn't that bad.

Your average "Chinese" place is worse.


That is racist, but probably true...

Seriously, the Wendy's restaurants near me are terrible in almost every conceivable way. So perhaps it is just my area. I remember when I was a kid, I did like Wendy's, but they had a taco bar then, and that is the only thing I would eat there.

I believe more restaurants need Taco Bars. That is what this thread is about now.



Taco bars would be good. But some places would be worse off with them.
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-07-12 06:03:15 UTC
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Death to Wendy's! Power to Unified Inventory!

Wendy's isn't that bad.

Your average "Chinese" place is worse.


That is racist, but probably true...

Seriously, the Wendy's restaurants near me are terrible in almost every conceivable way. So perhaps it is just my area. I remember when I was a kid, I did like Wendy's, but they had a taco bar then, and that is the only thing I would eat there.

I believe more restaurants need Taco Bars. That is what this thread is about now.




Yeah, for real... What DID happen to taco bars??? You could make a taco salad or maybe a burrito or taco, and make it exactly the way you wanted it. Those were a hell of a great concept. Any restaurant owner worth his or her salt would be smart to bring that idea back.

Damn, brings back old memories. I remember even RAX had a taco bar in the 80's
Americe Zane
The Lucky Punx
#13 - 2012-07-12 06:06:13 UTC
Zapphire wrote:
Americe Zane wrote:
Will try to post something positive.

Op, some of your points are good. It would be a better use of your time to add them to an already F&I thread on this topic so that it has a greater chance of being seen by someone that can do something about it.

I'll pass on the Wendy's.

(ok, good deed for today done).


Thought about F&I. But then I saw the Issues, Workarounds & Localization thread. Because, yes, it is a discussion "about a feature". But, no, it is not a suggestion for a feature. True, it is a discussion that has ideas. But it is not a topic about a new idea. This is when I noticed the IW&L forum. Because at it's nature, the topic is about issues with the new inventory system. It also suggests workarounds. Localization does not come into play for this topic.

So, this is why the post was made in GD, and not one of the other OPTIONS.

If a moderator deems this post belongs in another forum, they will move it there. Until then, just discuss your opinions about my original post.

Thank you,

Zapphire.



Ok. I was trying to help you get your ideas out there where they would be read by someone other than us dregs in GD.


Now this thread has me thinking about tacos.
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-07-12 06:06:54 UTC
Americe Zane wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Death to Wendy's! Power to Unified Inventory!

Wendy's isn't that bad.

Your average "Chinese" place is worse.


That is racist, but probably true...

Seriously, the Wendy's restaurants near me are terrible in almost every conceivable way. So perhaps it is just my area. I remember when I was a kid, I did like Wendy's, but they had a taco bar then, and that is the only thing I would eat there.

I believe more restaurants need Taco Bars. That is what this thread is about now.



Taco bars would be good. But some places would be worse off with them.


Blasphemy. I cannot think of a single restaurant that wouldnt be improved by a Taco Bar. Although I undstand your opinion may be different and honor your right to express it.

James315 for CSM 8!
Zapphire
OBT.
#15 - 2012-07-12 06:08:45 UTC
Americe Zane wrote:
Zapphire wrote:
Americe Zane wrote:
Will try to post something positive.

Op, some of your points are good. It would be a better use of your time to add them to an already F&I thread on this topic so that it has a greater chance of being seen by someone that can do something about it.

I'll pass on the Wendy's.

(ok, good deed for today done).


Thought about F&I. But then I saw the Issues, Workarounds & Localization thread. Because, yes, it is a discussion "about a feature". But, no, it is not a suggestion for a feature. True, it is a discussion that has ideas. But it is not a topic about a new idea. This is when I noticed the IW&L forum. Because at it's nature, the topic is about issues with the new inventory system. It also suggests workarounds. Localization does not come into play for this topic.

So, this is why the post was made in GD, and not one of the other OPTIONS.

If a moderator deems this post belongs in another forum, they will move it there. Until then, just discuss your opinions about my original post.

Thank you,

Zapphire.



Ok. I was trying to help you get your ideas out there where they would be read by someone other than us dregs in GD.


Now this thread has me thinking about tacos.


Dregs can sometimes have good ideas. (Like the one about bringing back taco bars).

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1613701&#post1613701
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-07-12 06:10:49 UTC
Caroline Cosmos wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Corina Jarr wrote:
Abel Merkabah wrote:
Death to Wendy's! Power to Unified Inventory!

Wendy's isn't that bad.

Your average "Chinese" place is worse.


That is racist, but probably true...

Seriously, the Wendy's restaurants near me are terrible in almost every conceivable way. So perhaps it is just my area. I remember when I was a kid, I did like Wendy's, but they had a taco bar then, and that is the only thing I would eat there.

I believe more restaurants need Taco Bars. That is what this thread is about now.




Yeah, for real... What DID happen to taco bars??? You could make a taco salad or maybe a burrito or taco, and make it exactly the way you wanted it. Those were a hell of a great concept. Any restaurant owner worth his or her salt would be smart to bring that idea back.

Damn, brings back old memories. I remember even RAX had a taco bar in the 80's


Right? I mean when did businesses as a whole star this anti taco campaign. I'll tell you what would get me back in a Wendy's...bring back the taco bar. I would eat at the grimiest Wendy's in the world while sitting right next to a diseased crack whore, if it meant taco bars are back. And no, only I can get away with calling my mother a diseased crack whore, that is not for you to say!

James315 for CSM 8!
Caroline Cosmos
Perkone
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-07-12 06:12:32 UTC
Dude. I'd even sit right next to you in a restaurant with a taco bar.
Serious.
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-07-12 06:12:48 UTC
Zapphire wrote:
Americe Zane wrote:
Zapphire wrote:
Americe Zane wrote:
Will try to post something positive.

Op, some of your points are good. It would be a better use of your time to add them to an already F&I thread on this topic so that it has a greater chance of being seen by someone that can do something about it.

I'll pass on the Wendy's.

(ok, good deed for today done).


Thought about F&I. But then I saw the Issues, Workarounds & Localization thread. Because, yes, it is a discussion "about a feature". But, no, it is not a suggestion for a feature. True, it is a discussion that has ideas. But it is not a topic about a new idea. This is when I noticed the IW&L forum. Because at it's nature, the topic is about issues with the new inventory system. It also suggests workarounds. Localization does not come into play for this topic.

So, this is why the post was made in GD, and not one of the other OPTIONS.

If a moderator deems this post belongs in another forum, they will move it there. Until then, just discuss your opinions about my original post.

Thank you,

Zapphire.



Ok. I was trying to help you get your ideas out there where they would be read by someone other than us dregs in GD.


Now this thread has me thinking about tacos.


Dregs can sometimes have good ideas. (Like the one about bringing back taco bars).


Lol...thank you...it's open discussion like this that allows for true progress.

James315 for CSM 8!
Abel Merkabah
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-07-12 06:13:34 UTC
Caroline Cosmos wrote:
Dude. I'd even sit right next to you in a restaurant with a taco bar.
Serious.


Mom?!? What?

James315 for CSM 8!
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#20 - 2012-07-12 06:15:41 UTC
Just casually opening up multiple threads of the same thing, thats cool

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
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