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There are scammers, pirates, can-flippers, and all sorts of meanie nasty players in EvE because CCP expressly endorses that kind of play because it fits their vision for the game.

So one 5th grader also see's the 4th graders struggling so he goes into their midst and starts helping out the struggling fourth graders. he does pretty well demonstrating to most of the fourth graders...but he gets to one 4th grader and he doesn't know what to do..he explains that they are backwards and the "h" still comes out backwards...the 5th grader moves on to another 4th grader and he can't finish making the letter...it kind of ends like an "r".......

in the mean time the 5th grader who can draw the perfect "h" with his buddy are laughing hysterically watching this all unfold.

the 5th grader demonstrates again to the boy who makes it look like an "r" and it's still not working. so he' starts to talk to the boy and has a conversation with him...and after a bit of talk about the process the struggling boy begins to understand and after a few tries...he can now draw a pretty good "h".

at the board the boy who can make a perfect "h" is swelling with a false sense of superiority (I will explain why it is a "false" sense at some point). His buddy is beginning to take action on these 4th graders...their "h"s are getting better. So he walks up the boy who make's a backward "h" and he holds it up shows the whole class and ridicules the "h" and the boy starts bawling.

Another 5th grader says..hey..stop..that's not right..he'll get it in time let him practice on his own..it's the best way...he will learn the hard way.

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Wait, so now falling for a scam because you're greedy is a mental disorder?

no read the whole thread...I am reacting to peoples equating "inexperience with ignorance" and the reactive process of ridiculing others in order to reinforce a superiority complex.

If it's unclear I can live with that. i did my best.

That doesn't sound like you're talking about either inexperience OR ignorance. Last I checked, dyslexia was a mental disorder.


By the way, ignorance is one of the hallmarks of inexperience. If you pay attention around here, legitimately new players with questions who aren't being total jerkoffs tend to be treated pretty well. Old players who should know better, because they've passed the point where inexperience is a legitimate excuse tend to be treated less well (especially if they're confused about a concept like HS-isn't-safe. And of course, the jerkoff OP brigade is roundly beaten, regardless of experience level because, well, they're jerkoffs and deserve it.

Threads like these are a proof of why community colleges are a bad thing.

In my experience there aren't an excessive number of trolling/scamming/selfish individuals in EVE. Looking at the forums, local channels (Jita in particular) or the contract system may suggest otherwise but that's the nature of the medium. Only a very small portion of the EVE playerbase participates in those areas and it's self selecting for "those people".

There are plenty of inexperienced, ignorant, niave, bigoted and diluded people in EVE, however I think that's entirely to be expected. Some people have the excuse of being young or new to the game and others do not. It seems to reflect real life pretty accurately.

By the way I'm dyslexic, dyscalculic, bipolar and epileptic. The attitude that "you can't help it" isn't generally very helpfull, partly because it's pessimistic and mainly because it's incorrect.

Mental Disorder. 2 words.
First Word: Mental: Of, or Dealing with the Brain-bits
Second Word: Disorder: Ain't working right.

Dyslexia is a Mental Disorder, since it's a problem of the brain incorrectly processing its inputs. It's not a particularly severe one (usually), and can often be overcome or dealt with through various means. Most reading disorders are Mental disorders (vision deficits being the major exception).

That said, you were comparing trolling and scamming ADULTS who have CHOSEN to play EVE to making fun of Dyslexic CHILDREN in an environment that they are FORCED to attend.

I went ahead and bolded the words that should make clear exactly where your comparison went wrong.

While we are on the tangential subject of dyslexia, it's effects are not limited to reading. Nor are dyscalculia's effects limited to arithmetic. I have poor short-term memory which is attributed to my dyslexia and I can't read an analog clock and find it extremely difficult to filter out unwanted auditory and olfactory stimuli which is attributed to my dyscalculia. The average uninformed person has only a very approximate understanding of these conditions and are only really aware of their most well known and pronounced symptoms. The fact is that the brain is a very complex and inter-related thing and damage or defect in any area of it will generally have a wide variety of effects.

Then what's your definition of a Mental Disorder?

Mine's a broad definition, but it lends itself to subcategories which invite precision.