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Little Brat
Provincia Septim Reborn
#1 - 2012-07-11 17:34:31 UTC
First I love this game and have been playing longer than most. I try to read the forums every other day to keep up with what players are thinking. Everyone says Eve is growing and I would like to believe Eve will be around at least another 10 years. BUT, a chart tracking the all time daily average number of players on the Tranquility server shows a steady decline which alarms me. Please explain how there is growth when fewer characters play daily than ever before? As of this posting, the referenced chart was updated 34 minutes ago. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2012-07-11 17:36:14 UTC
You read it backwards.
Hiram Alexander
State Reprisal
#3 - 2012-07-11 17:36:52 UTC
INB4 "Summer"
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-07-11 17:38:53 UTC
You read it backwards.

"I'd rather have other players get shot by other players than not interacting with others" -CCP Soundwave
Zapphire
OBT.
#5 - 2012-07-11 17:39:04 UTC
The "All Time" section only goes back a few months. It's not showing the whole picture.

It's summer. Lots of people tend to enjoy this thing called The Outside in the summer. Some people refer to it as Null Sec. But people tend to be Outside more during summer months. I hear girls do this a lot. Which means guys also like to do it because girls have these things called "boobs" and soft skin and long flowing hair that reflects the sunlight in just the right ways...

Damn. I think I'll go Outside now.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#6 - 2012-07-11 17:40:12 UTC
Yup. Backwards.

If you read it the other way around, you see it only been declining for about six months.

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Denidil
Cascades Mountain Operatives
#7 - 2012-07-11 17:40:29 UTC
all those charts are "now" on the left, "x time ago" on the right. backwards from most people's expectation

Tedium and difficulty are not the same thing, if you don't realize this then STFU about game design.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-07-11 17:49:03 UTC
Zapphire wrote:
The "All Time" section only goes back a few months. It's not showing the whole picture.


The "All Time" section goes back to 2006. You're reading it backwards.

Also, summer.
Little Brat
Provincia Septim Reborn
#9 - 2012-07-11 17:51:16 UTC
Backwards? You mean you read right to left instead of left to right? The other charts are not backwards, why would this one be? All time daily average does not mean just the last six months. An average number of players takes into account fewer players during the summer months...hence the word average.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-07-11 17:51:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Little Brat wrote:
First I love this game and have been playing longer than most. I try to read the forums every other day to keep up with what players are thinking. Everyone says Eve is growing and I would like to believe Eve will be around at least another 10 years. BUT, a chart tracking the all time daily average number of players on the Tranquility server shows a steady decline which alarms me. Please explain how there is growth when fewer characters play daily than ever before? As of this posting, the referenced chart was updated 34 minutes ago. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility


Never ceases to amaze me how people stoutly believe that number of players online is related to number of accounts subscribed.

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Rats
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-11 17:53:17 UTC
Still believe they have a drop in numbers despite the summer, ppl who have left due to recent events and ppl un subbing alts in protest at recent changes (dumb UI cough cough). We shall see in time though, EVE has had rocky times before and recovered.


Tal

I Fought the Law, and the Law Won... Talon Silverhawk
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2012-07-11 17:55:01 UTC
Little Brat wrote:
Backwards?


Yes you read it backwards.
Ukrane Bob
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-07-11 17:57:38 UTC
Little Brat wrote:
First I love this game and have been playing longer than most. I try to read the forums every other day to keep up with what players are thinking. Everyone says Eve is growing and I would like to believe Eve will be around at least another 10 years. BUT, a chart tracking the all time daily average number of players on the Tranquility server shows a steady decline which alarms me. Please explain how there is growth when fewer characters play daily than ever before? As of this posting, the referenced chart was updated 34 minutes ago. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility



The forums do not reflect what players are thinking.. it only represents a very small portion of them. But besides that, did we really need another "EVE is dieing" thread?

[b]I like to piss people off.. Get Over it.. Adapt .. Survive![/b]
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#14 - 2012-07-11 17:58:34 UTC
Hover over the top of the lines on the "All Time" Graph, you'll see the dates right there... newest dates are on the left.
Little Brat
Provincia Septim Reborn
#15 - 2012-07-11 17:58:44 UTC
Ok, I concede I was reading it backwards when compared to other stats. Indeed I know subscriptions have nothing to do with who is online at any given moment.

Our corporate symbol is a blue Egyptian Ankh representing pure eternal life, surrounded by 8 gold stars representing The Eightfold Path on a red background representing sacrifice and committment to the everliving, beloved of Ptah...
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2012-07-11 17:58:56 UTC
Rats wrote:
Still believe they have a drop in numbers despite the summer, ppl who have left due to recent events and ppl un subbing alts in protest at recent changes (dumb UI cough cough). We shall see in time though, EVE has had rocky times before and recovered.


Tal



Anyone who quit over the UI change would have quit anyway because if you cannot handle that then there is no hope for you. Same goes for hulkageddon.
Lilliana Stelles
#17 - 2012-07-11 17:59:23 UTC
Let's not forget the sizable number of players now spending their weekends on the DUST beta instead of TQ.

Not a forum alt. 
Andoria Thara
Fallen Avatars
#18 - 2012-07-11 17:59:47 UTC
Little Brat wrote:
Backwards? You mean you read right to left instead of left to right? The other charts are not backwards, why would this one be? All time daily average does not mean just the last six months. An average number of players takes into account fewer players during the summer months...hence the word average.


All of them are backwards, hover over them to see the dates. Newest dates on the left.
Little Brat
Provincia Septim Reborn
#19 - 2012-07-11 18:01:57 UTC
Andoria Thara wrote:
Little Brat wrote:
Backwards? You mean you read right to left instead of left to right? The other charts are not backwards, why would this one be? All time daily average does not mean just the last six months. An average number of players takes into account fewer players during the summer months...hence the word average.


All of them are backwards, hover over them to see the dates. Newest dates on the left.


ty

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#20 - 2012-07-11 18:04:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Epeen
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Little Brat wrote:
First I love this game and have been playing longer than most. I try to read the forums every other day to keep up with what players are thinking. Everyone says Eve is growing and I would like to believe Eve will be around at least another 10 years. BUT, a chart tracking the all time daily average number of players on the Tranquility server shows a steady decline which alarms me. Please explain how there is growth when fewer characters play daily than ever before? As of this posting, the referenced chart was updated 34 minutes ago. http://eve-offline.net/?server=tranquility


Never ceases to amaze me how people stoutly believe that number of players online is related to number of accounts subscribed.


It never ceases to amaze me how people like you think that has any relevance.

If no one is playing, then no one is playing. Something is wrong with the game. Just because they haven't run out their subs/remaining PLEXes yet is irrelevant. Kinda hard to have fun in an MMO that everyone has stopped logging in to.

Mr Epeen Cool
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