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Grats CCP, No armsrace will every be possible vs current tech holders
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JitaPriceChecker2
Doomheim
#421 - 2012-07-11 12:47:04 UTC  |  Edited by: JitaPriceChecker2
Andrey Wartooth wrote:
[quote=JitaPriceChecker2]

Uh, you do know that Solar was not part of the NC right? They were actually part o the -A- Wagon back then and were fighting against the NC.


NO ?
I remember shooting SOLAR abbadons in geminate so stop posting because you have no clue.

They may be fighintg now but not when OLD NC falled.
Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#422 - 2012-07-11 13:05:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrey Wartooth
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
Andrey Wartooth wrote:


Uh, you do know that Solar was not part of the NC right? They were actually part o the -A- Wagon back then and were fighting against the NC.


NO ?
I remember shooting SOLAR abbadons in geminate so stop posting because you have no clue.

They may be fighintg now but not when OLD NC falled.


Really? Do you have any evidence to back this up, faceless person?

Quote:
Red Alliance offshoot, consisting largely of the corps Solar Dragons and Russian SOBR, and led by the former leader of RA, MACTEP. SDG and RUSSO had been focused largely on fighting in the drone regions, while the rest of RA cared little about it; there was some drama, and those two corps split. Relations between RA and SF remain friendly (SF still uses the RA killboard, for example).

Solar Fleet made a lot of waves by allying with Intrepid Crossing and Ethereal Dawn while they were fighting Red Alliance and many of the smaller members of the Northern Coalition. Solar Fleet's involvement caused Red Alliance and Majesta Empire to pull out of the war to avoid conflict with Solar Fleet. Solar Fleet likely did this to ensure that they had allies in the Drone Regions in the event that the NC invades the Drone Regions.

Compounding the awkwardness, Solar Fleet has apparently allied with AAA, KenZoku, and Triumvirate while attempting to seize control of Geminate away from Wildly Inappropriate. Since WI is a member of the Northern Coalition, this put them at war with TCF, RAZOR, and many other alliances also blue to us. As of August 2009 they are still fighting NC and have skirmished in southern Geminate and northern Cobalt Edge close to Tenal.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#423 - 2012-07-11 13:44:58 UTC
forestwho wrote:
Andrey Wartooth wrote:


Edit: Blap titans were almost as game breaking as remote Doomsdays. Perhaps moreso.


Atleast they were getting fixed, ring mining gets introduced in winterpatch prolly november thats alot of tech isk to be bottled up untill that time

If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#424 - 2012-07-11 13:56:00 UTC
JitaPriceChecker2 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
forestwho wrote:


Like i said, i can pull out numbers out my ass aswel, im not saying they are right, im just saying his numbers were more wrong than mine Pirate


This is different to the NC and its colossal income how?


LOL

NC died due to botted and rmted supercarriers that were buffed prior to invasion.

So no NC did't die because grunts mobilized and because of "effort"


NC lost because their vast numbers failed to turn up to fights. The supers just speeded up the implosion.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#425 - 2012-07-11 14:01:20 UTC
NC had more supers than the DRF at first. Furthermore, both sides had equal time to build more after the changes, and the war started long after said changes.

TL;DR your theory is ****
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#426 - 2012-07-11 14:03:47 UTC
Oh ya, and Raiden and co were already beat before the titan tracking nerf...which actually wasn't that huge of a nerf anyway, the big difference being that they can't clear bubblers off of each other anymore. Titans can still ownzone battleships and are a huge boost to fleets.

TL;DR your theory is doubly ****
Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#427 - 2012-07-11 14:15:59 UTC
Spurty wrote:

Not sure why everyone wants to fight over null sec ... People camping Jita undock / gates are ahead of the curve with regards to effort / risk / reward


shhh, dont tell everyone ffs.
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Frying Doom
#428 - 2012-07-11 14:20:33 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
forestwho wrote:
Andrey Wartooth wrote:


Edit: Blap titans were almost as game breaking as remote Doomsdays. Perhaps moreso.


Atleast they were getting fixed, ring mining gets introduced in winterpatch prolly november thats alot of tech isk to be bottled up untill that time

If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next.

My bets are on members of Goonswarm exploiting a bug in the game for profit again, while all the Goon forum posters claim it was not really an exploit or Goonswarm election rigging or Goonswarm embarrassing this game internationally via online gaming magazines or a Goonswarm member complaining, CCP threw him/her under a bus.

I could go on but there seems to be a pattern emerging.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#429 - 2012-07-11 14:21:28 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Andrey Wartooth wrote:
Onictus wrote:
http://soundcloud.com/sindel-pellion/titan

LOL who sang it so I can, throw them some isk. That was hilarios.


I'm guessing Sindel Pellion of TEST. I'm glad you are taking losing all your space so well.



Why so serious?

I'm just a hired gun, on my end, all I need is a target, an FC, and maybe a Titan pilot to get me there and I'm happy, if I'm in SOV space or NPC means no nevermind to me.

I didn't move to null to build outposts and fuel POS's.

i guess those guys are happy that their leader will have more systems to lend and put bots into. Nice to see so big adherence Attention
Maybe they even support their RL governments ShockedLol

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Twulf
Thunder Clap Industry
#430 - 2012-07-11 14:45:50 UTC
Xython wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
Xython wrote:
Spurty wrote:

Not sure why everyone wants to fight over null sec ... People camping Jita undock / gates are ahead of the curve with regards to effort / risk / reward

Holding tech doesn't affect them. Only concern they have is that Jita doesn't get it's trillions of ISK brought in / out every few hours




Also, I think you're vastly mistaken re: Tech profits. If you got 7000 players together and had them doing something in highsec, like say, mission running, or Ice botting, or crafting ships or something, you'd see similar profits. Tech is just what Goons "do" right now, because of a lucky happenstance with Goon space and moon goo.

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The difference is there are not 7000 people mining moon goo. I don't how many people exactly you have tending to POS but I am sure it's just a small handful. A handful of people making the same amount of isk (almost completely passively may I add) as 7000 people actively running missions or mining ice.


Sure, a small handful of people tending to POS... and an army of people offering required logistics support to ensure that handful of people can actually DO the moon mining in the first place. Don't try the false comparison bullshit there, it won't work. It's not 5 guys and a single spreadsheet leading to a trillion ISK a month in tech profits; it's the work of thousands of people in the Swarm working together.

Nullsec isn't Highsec, we have no CONCORD to hold our hands and wipe our... noses for us. If you want to start making real money in EVE, it's time to take off the training wheels and move out of Highsec. And CCP needs to get off their asses and move MORE money out of Highsec, because the Risk/Reward is so screwed up it's not even funny.



Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.
Dave Stark
#431 - 2012-07-11 14:48:19 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.


you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being.
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#432 - 2012-07-11 14:50:25 UTC
forestwho wrote:
Degren wrote:
The best part of the thread are the 11 upvotes to the OP.

Someone agrees with you, keep posting!

Maybe you can dethrone them together!

Stop trolling or i report it and just simply get your posts removed.


I was being deadly serious, sir. What is stopping you?

PS: I wish we got notices when people quoted our posts. Such comedy gold

Hello, hello again.
Twulf
Thunder Clap Industry
#433 - 2012-07-11 16:13:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Twulf
Dave stark wrote:
Twulf wrote:
Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.


you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being.


You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.
Degren
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#434 - 2012-07-11 16:14:49 UTC
Twulf wrote:
They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.


Make friends, boss.

Hello, hello again.
Dave Stark
#435 - 2012-07-11 16:16:27 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Twulf wrote:
Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.


you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being.


You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.


quoting a nice shade of green.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#436 - 2012-07-11 16:19:10 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Twulf wrote:
Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.


you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being.


You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.


Tell that to BFF NC.
Ping Pang Pong
Doomheim
#437 - 2012-07-11 18:22:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Ping Pang Pong
Lord Zim wrote:

If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next.



Fixing tech won't do anything to immediately effect the way things are. You guys have been bathing in moon goo for what, 3 years now? Pulling in something like 15 billion a month per moon over three years means your coffers are good and padded.



Twulf wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Twulf wrote:
Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.


you say that as if all of the tech moons in the game were specifically given to the goons by some benevolent higher being.


You act as if Goons had any risk when they took the moons, they zerg and scammed their way to the tech moons. They have numbers and numbers win in EvE.



The Goons were given half of their tech moons by an alliance that moved out of the system/dissolved. The remainder of the moons were taken after CCP decided to nerf tracking on super caps out of the blue, and goons blobbed everything with sub-caps.

I would say that falls in the line of the Goons being given just about everything they have.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#438 - 2012-07-11 19:13:37 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Lol now I have seen it all. A Goon talking about risk/reward as if they have any idea what that means when they can zerk non stop and never run out of ISK because of tech moons.


What's that? Why yes, we are better at EVE than you, thank you for noticing. :)
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#439 - 2012-07-11 19:14:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Xython
Ping Pang Pong wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:

If only CCP would hurry up and fix tech so we could place bets on what people like you would whine about next.



Fixing tech won't do anything to immediately effect the way things are. You guys have been bathing in moon goo for what, 3 years now? Pulling in something like 15 billion a month per moon over three years means your coffers are good and padded.


Er, 1 trillion a month. That's 1000 billion, for those of you who can't count. Padded is not the word.

And that's only Tech, that's not counting our other industrial interests, as well as the market manipulation games we do all the time to make isk et all. Tech profits allow for some really rad ways of investing isk to make more isk, after all.
Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#440 - 2012-07-11 19:16:13 UTC
Ping Pang Pong wrote:


I would say that falls in the line of the Goons being given just about everything they have.


I would say this falls in line with you not knowing what you are talking about, noted NPC forums poster Fing Fang Foom.