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Struggling to find a good balanced fit for Drone Horde anoms
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Dinames
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#1 - 2012-07-10 05:53:24 UTC
Hey guys I just got into my Rattlesnake after hearing about it's suposdely amazing tanking ability and well honestly i'm at a loss as to why it's been given this label.

I've been messing around with fits for it and i'm struggling to get a decent Tank.

Evehq is saying with my current fit that I would have around 768 dps, bringing that up to 888 with caldari bs 4.
Went into a horde with 768 tank and had to warp out in about 10 seconds because of the towers.

is there something i'm missing here?

I have tech 2 tanking skills so that's not an issue. i'm just wondering if there's something that I'm not considering.

Also, toping it all off it seems that with these new drone amp mods you're basically having to choose between a decent tank or decent dps and not a middle ground for both?

If anyone has a fit that's not faction blinged out that could realistiily do hordes i would love to know.

posting my fit below.

[Rattlesnake, drone horde]

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher , Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher , Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher , Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher , Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
True Sansha Large EMP Smartbomb

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Shield Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Shield Recharger II

Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Beta Reactor Control: Shield Power Relay I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier I
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I

Hobgoblin II, 5i
Curator I, 5i
Hammerhead II, 5i
Ogre I, 5a
Bibosikus
Air
#2 - 2012-07-10 10:40:25 UTC
There are two Horde types, one starts with a single Bomber drone and about 10 towers, the other is the "Bunker" version with slightly fewer towers (one of them a Neut tower) and several BS sized triggers in the initial spawn.

You've already identified the main problem running Hordes: if you warp to anything under 50km in a BS you risk getting swamped. Machs can speed tank at that range, but your Rattler just won't be able to hack it.

You could try setting up a more modest passive tank and sniping from a 100km warp-in. But you *really* need T2 Sentries asap:

[Rattlesnake, Hordes Solo]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
True Sansha Large EMP Smartbomb
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Mjolnir Cruise Missile

Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I
Large Core Defense Field Purger I


Curator II x5
Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5


T2 Curators in this setup have a 91km optimal + 24km falloff. T1's have about 75+20. I use a similar style of fit for a pair of cheap RR Domis. At 100km, they need less than 300dps tank since 70-80% of the incoming damage is negated by range.

If you can dual-box, the Domi setup can run a Horde in 16-18 minutes and it's a cheap option. Either way, you need to start playing with ranged fits.

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#3 - 2012-07-11 13:04:01 UTC
ummm - that's about the trashiest tank ive ever seen on a rattlesnake.... You will barely live long enough to kill the scramming frigates then warp out...