Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I must have missed the part where CCP declared SC pilots should stay logged off unless in combat.


Gate camps create combat, and play an important part in piracy. Whilst a lot of piracy can occur off-gate, ships such as haulers are invulnerable to anything but station camping (if they are stupid) and gate camps.

And for what it's worth, I don't fight on gate or particularly enjoy gate camping either. But for a lot of pirate and PvP corps it is something to do if they don't have any experience FCs online, and roams also quite rarely generate fleet to fleet combat whereas breaking up a gate camp is relatively common.


I'll concede that, but I'd also ask the question why would anyone be camping a gate when ships don't have to use gates?


Historically is irrelevant, this is a game. Real life mechanics need not apply.

And as it stands conflict is not currently created "on the aggressor's terms". Eve is very heavily stacked in the defenders favour, especially in terms of defending your ability to PvE. Removing hot drops as a valid method of attack simply reinforces that.

Currently in a system that isn't cyno-jammed, but has bubbles on every gate, those PvEing inside can realistically expect to never be killed. Should an AFK cloaker come, it is incredibly simple to swap systems. Made even simpler by jump clones, cynos and if your proposal were to go ahead hyperdrives.

The last thing Eve needs is even more care bearing that is impervious to interference. We need more stuff blowing up, not less. More specifically we need to see more of the older players dying while care bearing, under the current system we are all but un-catchable leaving the players that enjoy the "hunting" aspect of Eve to gravitate toward attacking newbies and the less experienced players.

I thought that the threads OP was a little uninformed, then i got to this line here and burst out laughing.

You literally have no clue what you're talking about and thus your entire idea is crap for a litany of reasons that I'm sure have been detailed by people with a clue throughout this thread.

Dude, Grath, you are PL. Rumor has it that PL has a significant force in Titans and SC. So you should be well aware of the DD or Doomsday Device and the amount of damage it puts out against capital ships. You might also be aware of how much ehp a typical (T1) capital ship has. So your amusement must be at the idea of watching caps pop like flies smashed by DD flyswatters. I know exactly what I am talking about, and the idea is great for a plethora of reasons which have already been detailed throughout this thread. The idea is great, unless the problem is that you can't stand change. It is OK for people with a single subscription to play by themselves and be able to fly in relative security. It is OK for people to fight over important things instead of trying to catch a lone badger at a gate camp of 20 bored players.

edit: no, I don't usually fly badgers.

CCP disagrees. Single accounts by themselves with too much safety are perfectly accepted within Eve. Introducing: High Sec missioning, mining, to name a couple. One player's boredom is another player's preferred activity. CCP even condones boring and safety in the same breath. Introducing: blob gatecamping with scouts. .. PS, I am curious to learn exactly what is mudflation. Is this going to be a new in-game commodity? lol. "Have you heard of the new moon goo? .. mudflation."

Why are you still posting?

Let it go man. Let it go.

I do, which is why I know how stupid your idea is.



A single DD can be tanked easily by ANY dread that has 2 tank mods on it. A single DD can be tanked by any carrier that has 4 tank mods on it and buffer rigs (standard fit).


So here's you, jumping in your titan that currently runs 70 billion just in minerals and firing off your DD at a moros, who laughs at you in half armor, then proceeds to apply 15k dps to your titan. He does so in a hull that basically cost him 2 faction BS. You, in your 100 billion isk coffin can't cloak or leave the system for 10 minutes.

You see, if you had any idea what you were talking about at all, your idea might have had some basis in reality, unfortunately your entire premise is based on rumor and speculation, and basically falsehoods.


You know absolutely nothing about capital ships, despite what you may have convinced yourself of, you know less than nothing about titans, and I'm betting you're equally ignorant about supercarriers. You propose changes to systems you have no experience with for problems that no longer exist.

I tried to explain all this to you but you felt the need to come back and make the situation worse by continuing to show how ignorant of the actual facts you are.

Maybe you should wait until you understand a few more things before you start trying to suggest changes.

And then you proceeded to give out the wrong damage for a DD, and then spout off a bunch of HP numbers like you might know what you're talking about while giving naked hp numbers instead of actual fleet bonused numbers like you would encounter in a situation where you're getting DD'd.


You don't understand cap ships, you think you know how to work EFT but you're even failing at that. GG.

So far you've gone from:

to:


Care to revise your statement further? Face it, Grath just schooled you.

If we're going to start discussing "the problem of titans/supercarriers", them being able to "instapop most capital ships" aren't anywhere on the table, since they don't. The problem is a much more subtle one, and at the same time one which goes much, much deeper than you think.

Still waiting.