Warfare & Tactics

And why should Amarr take any system at all when plexing has yet to be fixed, incentives are out of whack (x16 difference, Trololololled by Soundwave) and they need to capture everything way deep into Heimatar+ to get highest tier or even second highest.
Someone did the math a while ago: Every system taken equals some absurd number of billions for Shakor as alts farm it back again ..

Also, "lol" at return to 'good fights' .. as long as incentives are as high as they are you'd need some serious mechanics magic to make it more than FarmVille™, Eve Edition. The winter patch may rejuvenate FW if CCP are willing to design it based on more than brainfarts from hung-over Devs/players .. but since it would require almost all of the Inferno changes be axed/heavily modified the chances are slim to none (would be admission of ineptitude).

Tl;dr: FW will remain an Eve version of FarmVille™ for the foreseeable future. Enjoy.

PS: Current state of affairs on both fronts was accurately predicted by us in the common sense/logic crowd and since we are not omniscient one can only conclude that it could have been easily avoided had CCP done their homework.
PPS: Noticing that a lot/most of the people who said "OMG THIS IS AWESOME!" immediately after the patch have applied to be let back into the "Fix FW Club". Please be patient as we ramp up activity again.

LOL.
If CCP doesn´t do anything within the next 6 months it will be probably bankrupt. Did someone count how many additional players are buying plex now instead of paying with real cash?
I knew some guys who are happy that they have made 10 plexes (30day Pilot License) in only two weeks. In my alts Corp (I am an alt too) there are almost 30 players farming all the time. Probably there are HUNDREDS of players farming and buying Plex for the next two years. Let us assume there are 500 players (I suppose there are a lot more) farming like hell. Well 500 players each probably 5 plex -> 37500 Euros. In only two weeks! And 5 Pilots licenses is really understated. I know people who made over 20 in 2 weeks.
Let this happen half a year and there won´t be eve anymore.
Especially because there are coming more and more farmers. I personally am tired of farming but if I can make about some hundred euros with it... why not.
If CCP doesnt do anything it will loose millions of dollars simply because players do not need to pay for the next some years.
Eve-> Free to play.
Let me farm two further months and I will have possibly gametime till 2020.
THE WHOLE THING IS A MESS!
What we need is a HUGE Minmatar ship nerf and a completely FW restart.
IMEDIALTELY!

If you have a wallet with several billion isk in it and you can't find the PvP you originally signed up for - you'll go pirate, go null, or possibly even switch sides. Eve101 is keep your troops entertained or at the very least they will stop logging in as often.

Simply wow, you are possibly the stupidest person I've ever come across.

Where exactly do you think those plex are coming from? ... You think CCP seeds them onto the Market. Infact ccp make more money from the buying and selling of plex than they do from subscriptions, since subscriptions are discounted slightly when you subscribe for more than one month at a time.

Protip: think before you write a wall of drivel.

Of course in said comic (One of the best Asterix ones out there) the capitalism which is introduced to Gauls as means to sell/purchase useless item eventually crashes Roman economy too. Then again, it might not happen here since stabber fleet issue is ultimately more useful than a big rock that you cannot even use mining lasers to

There is no chance in hell that this is going to happen, Alot of hard work and plexing has been done over many years to get us to the level we are at now, Personally I've been plexing since I joined our corp nearly 2 years ago and now someone who has been in FW for a month is telling me we should give our systems up!!

NOT A CHANCE

You do understand most of the system flipping happened in past few months due to changes in mechanism. Before that your front was more or less stagnated. Amarr owned Siseide/Lantorn for ages and nothing much else happened, except the time PERVS demonstrated how gallente invented plex bug worked and flipped most of Metropolis (which matar retook quickly since no Amarr were there to hold the systems) and the time I was paid 100k isk to flip all systems in Eugidi constellation with Unfamed II.

So even a full reset would actually change very little in regards to "time spent".

Someone still buys the plexes and puts them on the market. Plexes cost more than their worth in subscribed game time (unless you pay monthly).

So CCP is already making a killing selling plex - the amount of plex sold in game can't change due to the farming.

You seem to have changed your mind about war since you said this Poetic



And now you want to make FW fair?? Make your mind up will you.

Its against some pretty tough competition but this is about the worst blog post you ever made Poetic. For a person who was virtually kissing Soundwave's shadow about the notion that "war in eve wasn't fair" a couple of weeks ago now you think the player base should have to consensually "make it fair" by giving up systems that were hard and honestly fought for in the run up to Inferno and in the weeks since?

Your conclusions are wrong - the Goon impact was pretty minimal in the grand scheme of things, and a reset of FW occupancy for Inferno would have been profoundly anti-sandbox and have made a mockery of the efforts of players in the years before Inferno. You are also pretty clueless on the role that an organization like Fweddit plays in the grand scheme - sure they were amusing to fight for a bit at the beginning when they were taking any fight that was offered and trying to make up with numbers what their members lacked in skills etc etc - but they also have become embittered and risk-averse in recent weeks and now just want to gank or run like the rest. They are nothing special in other words - if they don't want to plex occupancy it simply means they don't want to play FW really - nobody gets rewarded for not playing the game.

More importantly : Eve Online used to be a game about consequences and player-led dynamic outcomes (even in hisec/lowsec) when players achieve things (like dominating an area of the faction warfare warzone) then the storyline should honour that with significance and impact (not just a gamey copout like an occupancy reset) - things should change, the impact should matter, we should leave a mark on this universe by our actions.

If you want to argue that FW mechanics are currently too brutal in punishing the losers then I will tend with agree with you. But the resolution to this issue needs to come from CCP design work and the adjustment needs to honour the principles of the dynamic sandbox and redress the balance while acknowledging the outcome.

Here's a back of a beermat suggestion how that can be done.

"Amarr government issues an emergency press release acknowledging the need for additional imperial funding to support the beleaguered 24th Crusade which otherwise faces total collapse. Effective immediately transaction taxes in all Amarr hisec will be increased to provide additional support to bolster the 24th Crusade loyalty point store. This will have the impact of granting effective tier 3 prices regardless of currently warzone control with a 10% transaction tax penalty in Amarr Hisec while the actual warzone control remains at 1 (reducing to 5% transaction tax penalty if warzone control raises to 2) and normalizing to zero if the 24th crusade can attain a level 3 warzone control. The Empress urges all 24th Crusade Fighters to remain loyal in this time of the crisis for the imperium"

This would give the 24th a chance to cash in their lps at pre Inferno level and fund their fight back. It punishes ANYONE attempting to conduct business in Amarr hisec to represent the fact that the Amarrian Empire is needing to divert massive funding to support the 24th through tax levies on business. It directly provides incentive for the 24th to hold onto their remaining lowsec assets and introduces a mechanic which will in play until the 24th normalizes the warzone."

On the other side of the coin the Matari Republic probably needs to issue some commemorative medals for the achievement. (And CCP should write some fiction and storyline to represent the map dynamic.)

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And that's a five minute example of how this kind of thing can be addressed without a nonsense consenual surrender of territory on the black of a bleating blog full of half baked misunderstandings and nonsense.