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Organisation Of Amarr Faction Warfare
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Yuri Intaki
Nasranite Watch
#21 - 2012-07-10 12:53:37 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Personal hope the minnies take every losec system they can. Then we can enjoy the nice troll threads that brings about where the Amarr all went. Until of course the PVP dries up and they start asking why they get no pew pew anymore.

Not every Amarr corp will move to Egg if they lose their current system. Nor will they trot off to tuomuta.[/i]


What happened to "Fortress Kamela" then?
Thomas Kreshant
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2012-07-10 12:59:27 UTC
Yuri Intaki wrote:


What happened to "Fortress Kamela" then?


They've said they're off to do other things and GL & HF to them of course.
Wenron
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-07-10 13:23:58 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:


@OP: I don't really know how it is in Amarr Militia, but in Minmatar Militia, there are several key groups and within those, several key people who are organizing things, leading fleets, and generally directing the war effort. This is mostly facilitated through private channels that incorporate all of the leadership of Late Night Alliance, Iron Oxide., Defiant Legacy and hopefully soon we'll start seeing more cooperation with groups like Electus Matari and Ushra'Khan (although time will tell).



I for one hope that our corp and alliance diplos can make this happen. I would very much like to see us playing a larger part in the war. Friction with KPP/LNA has been a painful thing to watch, but it does keep things interesting and I think that we can set aside our epeens for the greater good of exploding slavers.

Granted, Rifterlings focus on frigate/destroyer pvp and can therefore be seen as not as important, but every fleet can use fast tackle. Lord knows that we are all fond of blowing up in search of pew.

*These are my personal views and opinions. I hope and believe that they are shared throughout my corp and alliance.*
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#24 - 2012-07-10 14:52:44 UTC
Yuri Intaki wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Personal hope the minnies take every losec system they can. Then we can enjoy the nice troll threads that brings about where the Amarr all went. Until of course the PVP dries up and they start asking why they get no pew pew anymore.

Not every Amarr corp will move to Egg if they lose their current system. Nor will they trot off to tuomuta.[/i]


What happened to "Fortress Kamela" then?



It hasn't fallen, still very much in Amarr hands.

I just think the minnies need to see what happens to the pvp once they get their "win".

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#25 - 2012-07-10 16:25:23 UTC
sYnc Vir wrote:
Yuri Intaki wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Personal hope the minnies take every losec system they can. Then we can enjoy the nice troll threads that brings about where the Amarr all went. Until of course the PVP dries up and they start asking why they get no pew pew anymore.

Not every Amarr corp will move to Egg if they lose their current system. Nor will they trot off to tuomuta.[/i]


What happened to "Fortress Kamela" then?



It hasn't fallen, still very much in Amarr hands.

I just think the minnies need to see what happens to the pvp once they get their "win".


Your use of Italics confuses the hell out of me
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#26 - 2012-07-10 16:43:17 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Yuri Intaki wrote:
sYnc Vir wrote:
Personal hope the minnies take every losec system they can. Then we can enjoy the nice troll threads that brings about where the Amarr all went. Until of course the PVP dries up and they start asking why they get no pew pew anymore.

Not every Amarr corp will move to Egg if they lose their current system. Nor will they trot off to tuomuta.[/i]


What happened to "Fortress Kamela" then?



It hasn't fallen, still very much in Amarr hands.

I just think the minnies need to see what happens to the pvp once they get their "win".


Your use of Italics confuses the hell out of me


Tilt your head.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Zen Guerrilla
CTRL-Q
Ushra'Khan
#27 - 2012-07-10 18:44:39 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
inb4 this somehow turns into another thread about Fweddit ...

Just checking in to say how much i love Fweddit. And that's no joke.

Now back to my Tier 5 LP store.

pew pew
Chav Queen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-07-11 12:54:28 UTC
From my past experiance big fleets in FW were overkill for anything other than bunker busting.
You achieve the most in FW by splitting your fleets throughout the constelation and systems only merging together should the enemy force you to.
Enter a system with a fleet of 5 or 6 split up and take a plex each and start capturing, now if you have multiple fleets out each taking their own system you can contest entire regions pretty quick.
If defenders show up call everyone in system to a single plex and set up on the warp in point ready.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#29 - 2012-07-11 14:27:13 UTC
Chav Queen wrote:
From my past experiance big fleets in FW were overkill for anything other than bunker busting.
You achieve the most in FW by splitting your fleets throughout the constelation and systems only merging together should the enemy force you to.
Enter a system with a fleet of 5 or 6 split up and take a plex each and start capturing, now if you have multiple fleets out each taking their own system you can contest entire regions pretty quick.
If defenders show up call everyone in system to a single plex and set up on the warp in point ready.


Funny you should mention that as thats what we have been trying on a smaller scale
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#30 - 2012-07-11 14:43:10 UTC
Chav Queen wrote:
From my past experiance big fleets in FW were overkill for anything other than bunker busting.
You achieve the most in FW by splitting your fleets throughout the constelation and systems only merging together should the enemy force you to.
Enter a system with a fleet of 5 or 6 split up and take a plex each and start capturing, now if you have multiple fleets out each taking their own system you can contest entire regions pretty quick.
If defenders show up call everyone in system to a single plex and set up on the warp in point ready.



After reading this I took a look at your employment history because I figured you were with a fw corp that knew what they were doing. I was right.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Deen Wispa
Sheriff.
Caldari Tactical Operations Command
#31 - 2012-07-11 16:51:47 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
@Christine: GF's o/o/

@OP: I don't really know how it is in Amarr Militia, but in Minmatar Militia, there are several key groups and within those, several key people who are organizing things, leading fleets, and generally directing the war effort. This is mostly facilitated through private channels that incorporate all of the leadership of Late Night Alliance, Iron Oxide., Defiant Legacy and hopefully soon we'll start seeing more cooperation with groups like Electus Matari and Ushra'Khan (although time will tell). Deen Wispa is right in saying that a lot of people call this kind of organization "clique-ish", but I contend that in any alliance in this game, are the leadership including everyone in planning/etc? No. If you want to be involved in the decision-making of the militia, it'll take sweat, blood and tears. If you want to be a leader, then start leading: if your leadership is solid, people will find you and follow you. If you want to be led, find the existing leadership and start making ins with them: get your corp. access to intel channels, voice comms, etc and maintain communication to that leadership and be as useful as you can.


How much more organization do you guys really need? I mean Amarr is down to a few systems and it seems you guys are probably bored. Though, if you intend on trying to take every system just for bragging rights, then I guess more coordination amongst more alliances is appropriate.

High Five. Yeah! C'est La Eve .
Cearain
Plus 10 NV
#32 - 2012-07-11 18:13:14 UTC
Deen Wispa wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
@Christine: GF's o/o/

@OP: I don't really know how it is in Amarr Militia, but in Minmatar Militia, there are several key groups and within those, several key people who are organizing things, leading fleets, and generally directing the war effort. This is mostly facilitated through private channels that incorporate all of the leadership of Late Night Alliance, Iron Oxide., Defiant Legacy and hopefully soon we'll start seeing more cooperation with groups like Electus Matari and Ushra'Khan (although time will tell). Deen Wispa is right in saying that a lot of people call this kind of organization "clique-ish", but I contend that in any alliance in this game, are the leadership including everyone in planning/etc? No. If you want to be involved in the decision-making of the militia, it'll take sweat, blood and tears. If you want to be a leader, then start leading: if your leadership is solid, people will find you and follow you. If you want to be led, find the existing leadership and start making ins with them: get your corp. access to intel channels, voice comms, etc and maintain communication to that leadership and be as useful as you can.


How much more organization do you guys really need? I mean Amarr is down to a few systems and it seems you guys are probably bored. Though, if you intend on trying to take every system just for bragging rights, then I guess more coordination amongst more alliances is appropriate.



They were always at just a few systems since inferno.

I think they get a medal if they take all the systems.

I also understand that the moment they take all the systems ccp will indelibly brand the letter "L" on the forehead of all current members of the amarr militia. So I am glad my corp has chosen to go caldari.

Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Perkin Warbeck
Higher Than Everest
#33 - 2012-07-16 03:35:48 UTC
I also understand that the moment they take all the systems ccp will indelibly brand the letter "L" on the forehead of all current members of the amarr militia.


That would be awesome! But I think CCP should extend it to every former member of the militia as well and have a pop up message from CONCORD every time you pass through a stargate, just like they do with pirates!

Or they could even just adapt this so that it plays as background music when playing as Amarr- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4SJ0xR2_bQ






Silence iKillYouu
Girls Lie But Zkill Doesn't
Pandemic Legion
#34 - 2012-07-16 07:46:45 UTC
Ever since "Predator delete" left amarr have gone downhill.
Pred is prob one of the only FC's that can read what we are doing and counter it fast enough before we realize.

Wolfs turned out to be a bunch of *****'s who jsut smack in local from there station.
Or they undock 35 man fleets onto our small gangs and then cry when we don't engage.

If u guys get pred back u will start to win again.

EVE Mail me i dont check forums often.
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
#35 - 2012-07-16 07:58:26 UTC
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Ever since "Predator delete" left amarr have gone downhill.
Pred is prob one of the only FC's that can read what we are doing and counter it fast enough before we realize.

Wolfs turned out to be a bunch of *****'s who jsut smack in local from there station.
Or they undock 35 man fleets onto our small gangs and then cry when we don't engage.

If u guys get pred back u will start to win again.



Wolf became DnD pussies .... blob or nothing
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#36 - 2012-07-16 10:37:23 UTC
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Ever since "Predator delete" left amarr have gone downhill.
Pred is prob one of the only FC's that can read what we are doing and counter it fast enough before we realize.

Wolfs turned out to be a bunch of *****'s who jsut smack in local from there station.
Or they undock 35 man fleets onto our small gangs and then cry when we don't engage.

If u guys get pred back u will start to win again.


Yeah, Predator was definitely a force to be reckoned with, whether you liked the guy or not. It's a shame that politic-drama drove him away, Amarr has never really been the same, although the I.LAW FCs are probably the next best thing, in my opinion.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
Ghost Legion.
#37 - 2012-07-16 10:39:31 UTC  |  Edited by: sYnc Vir
Hidden Snake wrote:
Silence iKillYouu wrote:
Ever since "Predator delete" left amarr have gone downhill.
Pred is prob one of the only FC's that can read what we are doing and counter it fast enough before we realize.

Wolfs turned out to be a bunch of *****'s who jsut smack in local from there station.
Or they undock 35 man fleets onto our small gangs and then cry when we don't engage.

If u guys get pred back u will start to win again.



Wolf became DnD pussies .... blob or nothing


War is not honourable, do not seek it here.

Where did I learn that. Aye, memories may fade but my smile remains.

Snake, you're a good guy, and I remain a fan. I don't mind people taking shoots at my corp, I generally don't give a ****. However don't be a hypocrite, you use to have better standards then that.

Edit, We've always honoured blues, before someone makes a comment about helping WTs.

Don't ask about Italics, just tilt your head.
Lock out
Shadows Of The Federation
#38 - 2012-07-16 12:28:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Lock out
Hidden Snake wrote:



Wolf became DnD pussies .... blob or nothing



He's jsut bitter his guys derped an archon in to us and ruined his precious efficiency. Like any fucks would be given on any side about an archon that can be replaced in 4 hrs of tripleboxing afk plexing alts.

Vordak Kallager wrote:


Yeah, Predator was definitely a force to be reckoned with, whether you liked the guy or not. It's a shame that politic-drama drove him away, Amarr has never really been the same, although the I.LAW FCs are probably the next best thing, in my opinion.



I lol'd hard. Inb4 Mysti : "Pred is derp backwards" . Are we talking about the dude that was asking on TS how stacking penalties work ? Or about the guy that deployed 4 scorps at zero against a baddon fleet ?
StarConquer212
Nothing Comes To Mind
Snuffed Out
#39 - 2012-07-16 16:33:07 UTC  |  Edited by: StarConquer212
lol @ "we only like FCs we can curve stomp consistently" - Minnies


The sooner you realize that you "winning" the war and making all this isk, is the same for us. So we could care less, and as far as pvp and fights go. Last i checked we have won every stand up fight that isn't about T1 cruisers or Destroyer's. (shooting ihubs with thrashers so u can run away quickly is real pro pvp ) You will not openly engage with a real fleet backed by logi or triage, and few times u have u lose so badly u go lick your wounds for a few days and proclaim victory because u hold more space. What ever floats your boat man, but i will point out you and your army of care-bear plexers do all the hard work and we cash out on your hard work. Sounds like slaves to me, Amarr Victory!
Shallazar
Typo Inc.
#40 - 2012-07-16 16:50:06 UTC
AndromacheDarkstar wrote:
So granted i havent been involved in faction warfare for long, and dont get me wrong im not trying to change the world but it seems to me that the amarr suck at organisation. It might be im just not privy to the right channels or dont have the right connections with the right people but besided FWEDDIT its very rare to see large amarr fleets.

On the other hand i quite often see large minmatar fleets roaming around making my life difficult. Essentially what im asking here is either,

A. is there already a group of people regularly trying to form up larger fleets composed of either militia pilots of groups of corps working together that im not actually a part of or havent been able to find out about.

B. is there a gap for someone to fill that role, im not talknig about creating a permanent alliance just a palce/channel for corps to meet up and set up larger fleets so we can start turning the tide a little bit. Obviously this would require fairly competant FC`s

C. Why are there so many pilots flying around in the militia without corps and why isnt there a good way for them to find faction warfare corps. We have taken quite a few new members on board recently after getting them involved in our fleets from the militia chat ect, it seems allot of pilots are looking for corps and we would do allot better if they were working in larger groups.

It just seems at the moment that we are getting our asses kicked in the grandscheme of things, i know about the recent goon involvment ect but i dont think that tells the whole story. I was jsut expecting more organisation when our corp signed up but most of the time the FW intel channle is pretty ********. Im having an awesome time getting killed everyday and having fights, in fact the best time ive had playing eve but it would be nice to try and win the war.

Am i an ill informed tard, please discuss


Since many of the old-guard left, organization has been in freefall and many corps also seem to have lost their motivation and little is seen of their FC's, so it's going to take time for something to start coming together. Keep making those fleets and making friends and that will help the process. I'll keep an eye on in FF for them, don't recall seeing one from you when I've been on, so make sure you advertise and link the fleet regularly asking for members/shiptypes whatever.

Shall.
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