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Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2012-07-08 00:23:01 UTC
If the Minutes include:

Alex took a Breath after a long winded sentance and Seleene Took a Sip from his coffee be fore asking the question:
are you finish?
Alex'es reply was "Not even" as he took another deep breath to begin another deep monologe, expressing his concern over the new changes of the War declaration change.
...... er you are putting in a little too much detail......

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#22 - 2012-07-08 02:38:37 UTC
Gevlin wrote:
If the Minutes include:

Alex took a Breath after a long winded sentance and Seleene Took a Sip from his coffee be fore asking the question:
are you finish?
Alex'es reply was "Not even" as he took another deep breath to begin another deep monologe, expressing his concern over the new changes of the War declaration change.
...... er you are putting in a little too much detail......


They won't be.






.....cause Alex isn't on the CSM anymore.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2012-07-08 20:00:59 UTC
sorry I meant Alekseyev Karrde


I only use Eve names. Real names take me out of the game.

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2012-07-08 20:38:53 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Hey, I had my *five* sessions done 10 days ago. Somewhere around 23,000 words.
Nice, you get five shitstorms!

Given that this is my third term, it should be obvious that I am a glutton for punishment.

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#25 - 2012-07-08 21:17:00 UTC
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
Trebor Daehdoow wrote:
Hey, I had my *five* sessions done 10 days ago. Somewhere around 23,000 words.
Nice, you get five shitstorms!

Given that this is my third term, it should be obvious that I am a glutton for punishment.


We in INIT. are well aware of your... inclinations.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Trebor Daehdoow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-07-09 02:24:59 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
We in INIT. are well aware of your... inclinations.

And I... yours. I seem to recall that when I offered to buy exotic dancers for the entire alliance if I won ("A stripper in every pod") a certain alliance member demanded... livestock!

Private Citizen • CSM in recovery
Rolyat Aideron
#27 - 2012-07-09 03:23:12 UTC
Hopefully we can see some many great ideas for Dust 514 from the CSM come to live in the release later this year.

Pilot & Soldier of New Eden

Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#28 - 2012-07-09 07:05:39 UTC
I think dust is outside the CSMs remit, except insofar as it connects to eve.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#29 - 2012-07-09 13:13:10 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
I think dust is outside the CSMs remit, except insofar as it connects to eve.


That doesn't really matter, several of us have been playing it quite a bit and we give CCP a piece of our mind about it anyways whether they want to hear it or not. :)

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
#30 - 2012-07-09 15:22:29 UTC
Will there be anything akin to the CSM in Dust? Or will the CSM portfolio be expanded when DUST is released, then with DUST players voting? Or will DUST players have no elected say?
If you don't know / it's in the minutes / something else, then I will pout.
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#31 - 2012-07-09 15:30:03 UTC
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Will there be anything akin to the CSM in Dust? Or will the CSM portfolio be expanded when DUST is released, then with DUST players voting? Or will DUST players have no elected say?
If you don't know / it's in the minutes / something else, then I will pout.


Hey now, we are the Council of STELLAR management. If we preside over all the stars I'm pretty sure that means the planets are our jurisdiction too! Twisted

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#32 - 2012-07-10 08:26:40 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Will there be anything akin to the CSM in Dust? Or will the CSM portfolio be expanded when DUST is released, then with DUST players voting? Or will DUST players have no elected say?
If you don't know / it's in the minutes / something else, then I will pout.


Hey now, we are the Council of STELLAR management. If we preside over all the stars I'm pretty sure that means the planets are our jurisdiction too! Twisted


If the CSM is claiming representation rights over Dust, doesn't that mean that Dust players ought to be able to claim voting rights to the CSM?

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Frying Doom
#33 - 2012-07-10 08:47:11 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Alphea Abbra wrote:
Will there be anything akin to the CSM in Dust? Or will the CSM portfolio be expanded when DUST is released, then with DUST players voting? Or will DUST players have no elected say?
If you don't know / it's in the minutes / something else, then I will pout.


Hey now, we are the Council of STELLAR management. If we preside over all the stars I'm pretty sure that means the planets are our jurisdiction too! Twisted


If the CSM is claiming representation rights over Dust, doesn't that mean that Dust players ought to be able to claim voting rights to the CSM?

Oh Goody, a bunch of FPS Sony players voting on the CSM. That would end well for EvE.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#34 - 2012-07-10 10:25:03 UTC
Leaving aside the comically indefensible idea that one's choice of video game platform entitles one to claim to be a superior human, that dilemma is what I'm getting at. Dust players might make exactly the same complaint about ridiculously pompous, entitled PC gamers (that's you, btw) giving self-serving feedback to CCP on their game, leaving Dust players without a right to formally represent themselves as Dust players.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
#35 - 2012-07-10 11:34:47 UTC
I just finished the Content session, and updated the first post.

As for a DUST CSM, what CCP has said is that it is really too early to talk about it. I suspect that if DUST does well, we might end up with a couple of DUST players being elected to the CSM, but I would expect CCP would do separate elections. The topic has been discussed though.

CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#36 - 2012-07-10 14:12:11 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:

Oh Goody, a bunch of FPS Sony players voting on the CSM. That would end well for EvE.


Well, they allowed YOU to vote..... Twisted

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-07-10 16:15:49 UTC
Will the minutes actually disclose who said what on the CSM? Using "A CSM member said they blah, blah, blah" as some sort of shield from back lash is a childish move guys.
Hans Jagerblitzen
Ice Fire Warriors
#38 - 2012-07-10 17:30:14 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
Will the minutes actually disclose who said what on the CSM? Using "A CSM member said they blah, blah, blah" as some sort of shield from back lash is a childish move guys.


Absolutely. We've been working hard to make sure that these are the most specific and informative CSM minutes to date. It's also why they're already over three times as long as the historical minutes.

CPM0 Chairman / CSM7 Vice Secretary
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#39 - 2012-07-10 18:08:35 UTC
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:
Malcanis wrote:
It's taken almost a month for you to get the first drafts of the minutes?


Absolutely. We're already at over 120 pages, and that's not even including all of the sessions so far. Everyone asked for more transparency, this comes of course at the cost of added time, as we're finding out. Cool


bloody hell any way you guys can do this audio? that way i can listen to the minutes... my ADD wont allow me to read taht much...

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Gevlin
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2012-07-10 23:45:51 UTC
Will there be a 5 page Nicole"s notes on the Minuets

Someday I will have the time to play. For now it is mining afk in High sec. In Cheap ships