EVE New Citizens Q&A

I will probly be hated for saying this...

I hate suggesting Minmatar to new players for pvp. Yes they are the quickest to get into but why do something badly when a Merlin is so much better. Yes it takes more support skills but my god.. what a brilliant little frigate.

I will however say, Auto Cannons is one of my fav guns on a Punisher.

If you have any questions your more than welcome to convo me. It will not feel right just to go with the flow and say fly minmatar.

hmm..im going to train cloak asap.

nope... but blindly always suggesting the rifter just because they are the easiest to get into is wrong.

Just being honest here. Whenever a new player asks what do I do.. everybody says Rifter. I say no....

EDIT: i do not hate them... I fly minnie ships as well. I would rather ask what the new guy has been training and help him along those lines than say, stop now and train minnie...

Out of personal preference, in any game that has competitive gameplay I stay away from what is most popular unless it is absolutely necessary for me to be able to compete effectively.

I see in EVE, the Rifter is an extremely popular ship and Ive seen them almost everywhere. So it wouldnt be my first choice, and Im not trained in Minmitar either. Also, I have missiles trained (small) but Ive put more into Hybrid turrets as I am Gallente.

So should I keep training on turrets since im already on that road? And should I start training Min right now? if I absolutely need thre Rifter I will

The Merlin actualy was already quite good, before it changed, the problem was that it quite opposite to the Rifter took ages before you could master it.

I was pvping on my 2nd day. Get in there, no hesitation, no looking back.

You could go out there tomorrow with a T1 frigate and score a kill. Might not be liekly but anything can happen in this game. There are alot of other people new or just bad at this who may not be ready or know what to do. I would suggest you work on getting your cap as stable as possible and fit a warp disrupter (or scrambler - it will kill the targets microwarp drive as well but has a short range under 10KM) and try to tackle someone. Once you do keep your speed up and your weapons cycling on him. The faster you can maintain orbiting the target the higher your transversal and the harder it is for his guns to hit you.

Best advise i heard to get around the fear of getting popped is to fit up (10) T1 frigates and just go out there repeatedly. Dont worry about getting blown up, you'll be learning.

Also - download and import the "Brothers Benthor" overview settings and make sure your ALL SHIPS tab is on pvp-h-all. Personally i added scan probes to this overview filter but thats me.

If you are still reading this, I'm afraid I'm going to tell you to IGNORE quite a bit of the advice given above as its just plain wrong (though well intended).

People are advising you to "train this race" or "train for that ship". They do this because of their own limited positive experiences doing the same.

Don't listen to them. Eve is a HUGE game with infinite variation. There is absolutely, 100% no such thing as a "better race for PvP" or "race with the best ships". The races are all good - balance is pretty damn good.

As such, you should first identify the ship (probably a frigate, destroyer or t1 cruiser) you WANT to fly, perhaps because it looks cool or you like the bonuses. Then you should find a basic fit on battleclinic and then work towards the skills needed to fit it well.

The most important skills for PvP tend to be "support" skills especially those that help with fitting. Engineering V, Electronics V, Weapon Upgrades etc. - you need these whatever race or ship you go for, so start with them.


You picked Gallente for your character - this doesn't mean you need to train for gallente ships (the existing skillpoints you have will be inconsequential in a few months) but it doesnt mean you shouldn't either. Browse through the t1 ships, find something to aim for and get going!

Feel free to pick a "good" race or ship, i'll take your choice of "bad" race direct counterpart ship, and I will comprehensively demonstrate to you how mine can beat yours :P

I was referring to 1v1. In any case if you are going to be facietious I can be too - 100 domis fitting with 3x minmatar jammers and told to jam the person whose name was closest to them in the alphabet would clean that fleet up. Noone would ever be some dumb as to fly a 100 man fleet solely capable of taking on a specific enemy fleet however.