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CCP are you going to fix capitals

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Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#1 - 2012-07-10 05:37:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Apo Lyptica
You screwed up capitals; no super, you don't form up. And if you think this is 'balanced' then **** on you. It's ********.

Thank you to the person who pointed out my errors!
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-07-10 05:38:38 UTC
But, but power projection is fine... right?
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#3 - 2012-07-10 05:40:15 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
But, but power projection is fine... right?


Legitimate power projection is legitimate.

After all, if you find yourself in a fair fight in eve, your doing it wrong.

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#4 - 2012-07-10 05:43:28 UTC
Asuka Solo wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
But, but power projection is fine... right?


Legitimate power projection is legitimate.

After all, if you find yourself in a fair fight in eve, you're doing it wrong.


I think I fixed that for you.

And supers became the power fleet of alliances. This should never have happened...
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#5 - 2012-07-10 05:44:13 UTC
Perhaps you would care to explain how CCP has affected capital ships with specific examples?

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#6 - 2012-07-10 05:52:25 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
You screwed up capitals; no super, you don't form up. And if you think this is 'balanced' then **** on you. It's ********.

Since we are being picky, fixed for you.
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#7 - 2012-07-10 05:53:13 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Perhaps you would care to explain how CCP has affected capital ships with specific examples?


Are you serious... Have you looked at supers? And how that's effected null, fleet compositions, projection of power (already stated)... ect... ect...

What exactly do you do?
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#8 - 2012-07-10 05:53:31 UTC
Corina Jarr wrote:
Apo Lyptica wrote:
You screwed up capitals; no super, you don't form up. And if you think this is 'balanced' then **** on you. It's ********.

Since we are being picky, fixed for you.


Well thank you!
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#9 - 2012-07-10 05:57:09 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Perhaps you would care to explain how CCP has affected capital ships with specific examples?


Are you serious... Have you looked at supers? And how that's effected null, fleet compositions, projection of power (already stated)... ect... ect...

What exactly do you do?

That's still isn't helpful.


He is asking what specifically has CCP done that has negatively effected Caps, or their usability.

"Just look at them" is not a suitable response to such a request.
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#10 - 2012-07-10 05:59:21 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Perhaps you would care to explain how CCP has affected capital ships with specific examples?



Lets look at eve as if its a hill side-

You start in a rookie ship, this is the bottom of the hill side. You gradually come up into a frigate and then destroyer, nice smooth slope here. Then you get into t2 frigs and destroyers, a slight upward climb on the power hill, cruisers and t2 cruiser hulls, battle cruisers, battleships. You get a nice fairly balanced upward slope here. Carriers are pretty well balanced with battleships and down, but dreads you get a huge jump on the slope. This was done to provide somewhat of a counter to supers. Then you get to supers, where this hill turns into Mount Everest. In HP, power, and cost. Supers were rare, now if you don't have a super you are limited to sub cap ships. So you tell me what they did.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-07-10 06:02:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Apo Lyptica wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Perhaps you would care to explain how CCP has affected capital ships with specific examples?



Lets look at eve as if its a hill side-

You start in a rookie ship, this is the bottom of the hill side. You gradually come up into a frigate and then destroyer, nice smooth slope here. Then you get into t2 frigs and destroyers, a slight upward climb on the power hill, cruisers and t2 cruiser hulls, battle cruisers, battleships. You get a nice fairly balanced upward slope here. Carriers are pretty well balanced with battleships and down, but dreads you get a huge jump on the slope. This was done to provide somewhat of a counter to supers. Then you get to supers, where this hill turns into Mount Everest. In HP, power, and cost. Supers were rare, now if you don't have a super you are limited to sub cap ships. So you tell me what they did.


CCP put stuff in the game & now you're mad because you can't adapt several years after the fact.

Now that I have informed this player of what CCP did, please close this awful thread.

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Werst Dendenahzees
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-07-10 06:09:56 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Perhaps you would care to explain how CCP has affected capital ships with specific examples?


Woops wrong alt
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#13 - 2012-07-10 06:11:31 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Apo Lyptica wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
Perhaps you would care to explain how CCP has affected capital ships with specific examples?



Lets look at eve as if its a hill side-

You start in a rookie ship, this is the bottom of the hill side. You gradually come up into a frigate and then destroyer, nice smooth slope here. Then you get into t2 frigs and destroyers, a slight upward climb on the power hill, cruisers and t2 cruiser hulls, battle cruisers, battleships. You get a nice fairly balanced upward slope here. Carriers are pretty well balanced with battleships and down, but dreads you get a huge jump on the slope. This was done to provide somewhat of a counter to supers. Then you get to supers, where this hill turns into Mount Everest. In HP, power, and cost. Supers were rare, now if you don't have a super you are limited to sub cap ships. So you tell me what they did.


CCP put stuff in the game & now you're mad because you can't adapt several years after the fact.

Now that I have informed this player of what CCP did, please close this awful thread.


It's not been several years, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Super buff- they made supers god like. It was rare to see supers really die, they became the blob.
Supers did everything, and did it well. They got more HP and became more capable.
This is where the NC was face rolled

CCP did a knee jerk nerf to a poorly thought out buff, slightly made dreads more capable against supers... but not really.

Capitals are still broke after this, carriers are rarely used in major engagements. They have become PVE ships of choice. Dreads... hell whens the last time you seen a fleet of dreads and carriers?


So, what did they add years ago that is listed here? Do you even know what I'm talking about?
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#14 - 2012-07-10 06:14:37 UTC
What I'm saying is the idea and concept that was the titan and super carrier is no longer what it was. They NEED to be reworked PROPERLY, and the guy who suggested the initial buff to supers stripped and flogged. The capabilities, HP, and cost need adjusted to the current state of eve...
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-07-10 06:15:01 UTC
is this what you're talking about?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13955088

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#16 - 2012-07-10 06:18:13 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
is this what you're talking about?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13955088


And what do you bring to fight that? More supers and more ships. The blobbing is a mechanic caused by ccp.
Apo Lyptica
Absolute Order XVIII
Absolute Will
#17 - 2012-07-10 06:19:58 UTC
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Titans

Does describe what we have now? Huge fleets of 'behemoths'? If eve used newton based physics these fleets would cause the solar system to orbit them.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#18 - 2012-07-10 06:20:29 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
is this what you're talking about?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13955088

And what do you bring to fight that? More supers and more ships. The blobbing is a mechanic caused by ccp.

It's us, making everything about blobbing.

No e-honoure, no ~elite pvp~, it's just a titan blob.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2012-07-10 06:20:44 UTC
Apo Lyptica wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
is this what you're talking about?

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=13955088


And what do you bring to fight that? More supers and more ships. The blobbing is a mechanic caused by ccp.


soco can easily match those numbers ;_;

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#20 - 2012-07-10 06:21:31 UTC
If you have an idea for how to rework Super capitals, feel free to post your ideas in features and Ideas. That is one of the fastest ways to get your idea/message heard.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department
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