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Grats CCP, No armsrace will every be possible vs current tech holders
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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#221 - 2012-07-09 18:07:03 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
Galadriel Vasquez wrote:
Hi Sec whiners heres an idea - Band together and take yourselves to Null and wrench the Pinatas from the current incumbents....
If this is too much hard work or too complex you wont win EVE.


Careful it's not like CVA would be a hard nut to crack


CVA is impossible to kill. We all have tried it and it just keeps on comming back like a bad rash.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#222 - 2012-07-09 18:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
Ping Pang Pong wrote:
words


Thanks for your opinion hisec guy but bombs never worked that way until CCP bugged them in inferno

I'm sure you'd know this since you have so much experience with bombs in hisec

Oh and we've been keeping the bill paid on the SF/Honda wars now that they can't be mutual

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#223 - 2012-07-09 18:11:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Richard Desturned
No but please keep thinking Raidendot is or ever was a strong, stable alliance and not a loose alliance of high-SP retired mission runners and ex-BoB bittervets that depended entirely on amassing several of one ridiculously unbalanced shiptype that has been the subject of so many nerfs over the years

I mean surely they were so skilled that they could have avoided losing all of their space by kicking the holding corp that holds most of it right??? Oh wait they did

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Zyress
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#224 - 2012-07-09 18:15:55 UTC
So what? They own an enormous empire out in null-sec and can build a never ending supply of ships that can't come to High sec or fit in a wormhole. Its like continuing a game of civ after you control all the land masses or playing a game with cheat codes that give you unlimited resources, eventually it gets old, boring, and pointless to continue. Thats the reason for things like burn jita and hulkaggeddon, its just them trying to break up the boredom of their pointless existence. If you don't have something to strive for in a game, it loses its entertainment value. Eventually they'll grow tired of it and probably move onto another game, or possibly they'll crumble from within when they realize that their only competition is themselves.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#225 - 2012-07-09 18:22:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
Ping Pang Pong wrote:
Isn't it rather strange that CCP steps in and changes bombs directly after CFC gets an entire drake fleet knocked out by an SB run? I mean, bombs have been the way they were for years. Suddenly it is used against the goons and *ring ring* the batphone goes off and CCP gets to work to make sure the CFC isn't hit again by this mechanic that had been in game for years. Sad really.

You should take a trip to mount tinfoil, I'm sure you can have a sweet chat with jade while you're there.

Someone on our side discovered that bombs were surprisingly effective now, and decided to try a 160 man bombing run on a carrier or two and an aeon. The carriers went pop, the aeon lost all its shields, this was recorded and posted on youtube, and I expect CCP went "oh ****" and fixed it. And by "fixed it" I mean "completely flubbed the fix", but that's CCP for you. Bombs are apparently fixed properly now. (watch me be proven wrong, now).

So you can come down off of mount tinfoil, now.

Ping Pang Pong wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if we had the GM's stepping in and nuking SoCo ships for the CFC like they did for the goons during a wardec a while back. 10 minute petition answer, direct out of game communications with CCP devs, opposing forces ships start to go *pop* out of the blue.

Nepotism in its truest form.

I said come down from mount tinfoil, not climb even higher up.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#226 - 2012-07-09 18:30:07 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Tell me more about how SoCo works, oh NPC alt forum warrior. (PS. I'm sorry you would get fined for posting with your main.)


Oh did I make the Goon lap dog angry? Know how I know you're angry? When people get angry and have no real argument they like to point out that I am in an NPC corp.

Know why you see goons posting on thier mains? Because no one tells us how to play the game we pay for.

We're allowed to post, we're allowed to chat in local, we aren't forced to fly OP's, we aren't told to make our own money so we can afford to fly ops that we're forced to join.

You talk about anger and your post is full of hate and envy because, as a goon, we can afford to have fun how and when we want; while you as a pet are forced to play the game how and when someone else tells you.

Instead of being mad at goons, why don't you tell your slave drivers that they can start paying for your gametime, seeing as they're already controlling it as is.

I would feel bad for you guys, but no one's making you stay in those crappy corps and alliances but yourself.



The only problem with tech is that our enemies are to incompitent to take any. They spend more time telling thier members what they can and can't do, and finding new ways to fine them to make money to actually organize enough to learn how to play EVE.
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#227 - 2012-07-09 18:36:29 UTC
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Tell me more about how SoCo works, oh NPC alt forum warrior. (PS. I'm sorry you would get fined for posting with your main.)


Oh did I make the Goon lap dog angry? Know how I know you're angry? When people get angry and have no real argument they like to point out that I am in an NPC corp.

Know why you see goons posting on thier mains? Because no one tells us how to play the game we pay for.

We're allowed to post, we're allowed to chat in local, we aren't forced to fly OP's, we aren't told to make our own money so we can afford to fly ops that we're forced to join.

You talk about anger and your post is full of hate and envy because, as a goon, we can afford to have fun how and when we want; while you as a pet are forced to play the game how and when someone else tells you.

Instead of being mad at goons, why don't you tell your slave drivers that they can start paying for your gametime, seeing as they're already controlling it as is.

I would feel bad for you guys, but no one's making you stay in those crappy corps and alliances but yourself.



The only problem with tech is that our enemies are to incompitent to take any. They spend more time telling thier members what they can and can't do, and finding new ways to fine them to make money to actually organize enough to learn how to play EVE.




Truth, this guy speaks it.

This could be fun.
Andrey Wartooth
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
#228 - 2012-07-09 19:30:06 UTC
Ping Pang Pong wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
March rabbit wrote:


[quote=March rabbit]And when your 300-500+ drake fleet is sitting outside of a station nothing below this numbers can get your out. Before this "fix" there was conter to blobs - SB gangs. Not it is not exists.

SBs aren't nerfed, they're changed back to what they had before CCP ****** with missiles etc, which means you have to actually think a bit before lobbing bombs, instead of essentially doing a 256 man bombing run which is able to put aeons into armor in one volley.
.



Isn't it rather strange that CCP steps in and changes bombs directly after CFC gets an entire drake fleet knocked out by an SB run? I mean, bombs have been the way they were for years. Suddenly it is used against the goons and *ring ring* the batphone goes off and CCP gets to work to make sure the CFC isn't hit again by this mechanic that had been in game for years. Sad really.


I wouldn't be surprised if we had the GM's stepping in and nuking SoCo ships for the CFC like they did for the goons during a wardec a while back. 10 minute petition answer, direct out of game communications with CCP devs, opposing forces ships start to go *pop* out of the blue.


Nepotism in its truest form.


and @ the above poster: It is hard to combat both the CFC and CCP at the same time. It seems that every time someone gets a leg up there are changes that get rolled out which specifically cater to what the goons are up to.



A few things CCP has done to directly intervene in the game and support the Goons/CFC:

-Titan tracking nerf while CFC raids Raiden
-Wardec changes only after goons get dogpiled. They had done a dog pile a few weeks earlier on another alliance, but no one seemed to care until it was the goons on the receiving end.
-GM's nuking an opposing corp/alliance's ships during a war with the goons
And the most recent: Bomb changes put in place immediately after a CFC drake fleet goes byebye.

There are probably countless other times that things like these have happened, but these are ones I can think of off the top of my head.


While I am too lazy to find the articles, there are plenty of reputable MMO gaming sites (MMORPG.com, Massively.com etc) that have spoken out and reported on this happening. It still doesn't change the fact that there are quite a few people working in CCP that are or "were" goons or the facts of mechanics being changed out of no where as soon as it benefits the goons.


Posting on my main to say that this man has heavily invested in shares of a tinfoil supplier.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#229 - 2012-07-09 20:27:50 UTC
Andrey Wartooth wrote:


Posting on my main to say that this man has heavily invested in shares of a tinfoil supplier.


Little does he know that the tinfoil hat actually attracts the Martian mind bending rays instead of repelling them, the propaganda is the inverse of the truth in this case Twisted

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Lithalnas
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#230 - 2012-07-09 20:31:06 UTC
after being here for about 6 years this is what I have to say about threads that accuse some alliance of "owning nulsec"

Every single one has fallen without exception, The largest have fallen to a combination of internal disputes which split the alliance or break up coalitions. It happens every time.

https://www.facebook.com/RipSeanVileRatSmith shoot at blue for Vile Rat http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73406
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#231 - 2012-07-09 20:32:27 UTC
Lithalnas wrote:
after being here for about 6 years this is what I have to say about threads that accuse some alliance of "owning nulsec"

Every single one has fallen without exception, The largest have fallen to a combination of internal disputes which split the alliance or break up coalitions. It happens every time.

No, this time, this time, tech will make sure we don't break apart.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Freezehunter
#232 - 2012-07-09 21:06:20 UTC
forestwho wrote:


>a better pubic image due more isk
>better pubic image
>pubic



I lost my **** on that one.
LOL

Inappropriate signature, CCP Phantom.
qDoctor Strangelove
Doomheim
#233 - 2012-07-09 23:14:39 UTC
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Natsett Amuinn wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
Tell me more about how SoCo works, oh NPC alt forum warrior. (PS. I'm sorry you would get fined for posting with your main.)


Oh did I make the Goon lap dog angry? Know how I know you're angry? When people get angry and have no real argument they like to point out that I am in an NPC corp.

Know why you see goons posting on thier mains? Because no one tells us how to play the game we pay for.

We're allowed to post, we're allowed to chat in local, we aren't forced to fly OP's, we aren't told to make our own money so we can afford to fly ops that we're forced to join.

You talk about anger and your post is full of hate and envy because, as a goon, we can afford to have fun how and when we want; while you as a pet are forced to play the game how and when someone else tells you.

Instead of being mad at goons, why don't you tell your slave drivers that they can start paying for your gametime, seeing as they're already controlling it as is.

I would feel bad for you guys, but no one's making you stay in those crappy corps and alliances but yourself.



The only problem with tech is that our enemies are to incompitent to take any. They spend more time telling thier members what they can and can't do, and finding new ways to fine them to make money to actually organize enough to learn how to play EVE.




Truth, this guy speaks it.



Says the EXE pet.
Remember the eye of terror?
AlleyKat
The Unwanted.
#234 - 2012-07-09 23:23:42 UTC
Bolow Santosi wrote:
AlleyKat wrote:
Xython wrote:
AlleyKat wrote:
Only difference is that BoB actually had the respect and the money, instead of just the money.


BoB. Respect?

Ow. My sense of irony just sprained itself.


It wasn't open to debate; attempting to rewrite history will not erase my memory.

It also was not my intention to remind you of painful truths to offend you; sorry if that was the impression you got.

AK



Yes because propping yourself up as some quasi feudal lord and deeming nullsec is for the elite only was a good, healthy and respectable mindset.


And accurate.

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Blobber NL
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#235 - 2012-07-09 23:30:58 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.


You know that won't ever happen...
Pipa Porto
#236 - 2012-07-09 23:54:26 UTC
Blobber NL wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.


You know that won't ever happen...


And whose fault is that?

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#237 - 2012-07-09 23:55:09 UTC
Goons' fault, duh.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Frying Doom
#238 - 2012-07-10 00:08:22 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Goons' fault, duh.

Sorry I didn't bother to read the posts. What crime are you goons confessing to now?

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#239 - 2012-07-10 00:12:59 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.

Care Bear Swarm ???
Garreth Vlox
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#240 - 2012-07-10 00:16:14 UTC
So basically you're mad someone else found a better way to play the game then you did? If you want their space TAKE IT, this is EVE stop crying in the forums that someone else has toys that are cooler than yours and start playing the game.

The LULZ Boat.