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Fearless match worse than HYDRA vs 0utbreak

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Andrew Curtin
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2012-07-08 16:39:20 UTC
3x broadswords beat vindi's every time. the dual vindi and vindi oneiros. go test it on sisi. it's science.
Snake O'Connor
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2012-07-08 16:58:21 UTC
Apathetic Brent
TURN LEFT
HYDRA RELOADED
#43 - 2012-07-08 17:23:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Apathetic Brent
Herp. Was thinking this was Darkside vs Verge. My bad.
Rhodin Lazarith
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#44 - 2012-07-08 17:33:01 UTC
The reason for the gap in shooting things is kinda my fault. Spent too much time smartbombing their drones and ran of out cap trying to mwd after the vindi :-/
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#45 - 2012-07-08 17:34:15 UTC
LOL you lost to a team that capped out their unironic broadsword team.

~

Andrest Disch
Doctrine.
FEARLESS.
#46 - 2012-07-08 17:36:25 UTC
Elise Randolph wrote:
LOL you lost to a team that capped out their unironic broadsword team.



nono the broadsword is the perfect counter to vindis


well done nulli
transcom caldari
League of xX420BLAZEITSWAGGOTXx.
Nulli Secunda
#47 - 2012-07-08 17:41:10 UTC
Snake O'Connor wrote:


CONFIRMING I AM CHELSEA SULLIVAN AND THREW THE MATCH.

THANKS FEARLESS. WOULD DO BUSINESS WITH AGAIN
carbomb
Super Team Munkey
#48 - 2012-07-09 00:36:50 UTC
this just ruined my ATX experience. Came expecting Vindi ownage, left to look up the rules on match throwing
Cellethen
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#49 - 2012-07-09 05:20:40 UTC
transcom caldari wrote:
Snake O'Connor wrote:


CONFIRMING I AM CHELSEA SULLIVAN AND THREW THE MATCH.

THANKS FEARLESS. WOULD DO BUSINESS WITH AGAIN


Transcom, match fixer of my heart <3
sarsa
No Laws Apply
Unforgiving.
#50 - 2012-07-09 09:16:00 UTC  |  Edited by: sarsa
I see really no difference between buying the points and throwing a match. Test did it most of you are hypocrits to take it on fearless and not on test who bearly crawled in the to the grups stage. So you guys are babling for nothing CCP should have intervened from the start not let it as a precedent.
ry ry
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#51 - 2012-07-09 10:57:15 UTC
I'm disappointed you didn't enjoy the match DHB Wildcat, but you do seem to be disproportionately mad about the whole thing.

Snake burning out his guns cost us the match. deal with that and move on mate. :)
Fish Brain
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#52 - 2012-07-09 11:07:53 UTC
If a Vindicator is no longer a Windicator, do you call it a Losedicator or a Burndicator in this case?
ry ry
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#53 - 2012-07-09 11:15:09 UTC  |  Edited by: ry ry
Vindicators are still very much Windicators.

Its just the level of win is inversely proportional to the pilots failure. Part of our AT calculations were based upon distilling that Faliure Critical Mass down via a series of maddeningly complex equations, weaving ever decreasing circles of badness, to one pilot.

A man who could be called upon with the certain knowledge that faliure would ensure. He ctrl spaced in the first match and died. he burned his guns in the second and we all died.

The man, the myth, Snake O'verheater.
Fish Brain
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#54 - 2012-07-09 11:27:01 UTC
I think you should scrounge up some pennies together and buy Amantus a bike so he doesn't have to use the London Underground.
ScoRpS
caedam scorpionibus
#55 - 2012-07-09 11:43:06 UTC
After watching this match on you tube I was concerned that the commentators suggested that match fixing at this stage of the tournament is ok?

This match was by far a more conclusive case of colluding then the indicators used against us pre-tournament.

Would the ATX team care to comment?




ry ry
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#56 - 2012-07-09 11:49:51 UTC  |  Edited by: ry ry
ScoRpS wrote:
After watching this match on you tube I was concerned that the commentators suggested that match fixing at this stage of the tournament is ok?

This match was by far a more conclusive case of colluding then the indicators used against us pre-tournament.

Would the ATX team care to comment?






>implying we'd be competent enough to actually fix a match. If you and hydra couldn't manage it there is no way we could.

Fact of the matter is, the vindicator's guns burned out. It'll be there in the logs plain as day.

A surprise result, sure, but fearless are ******* horrible at spaceships anyway. And it is frankly insulting to the talented spacewarriors of Nulli Secunda to suggest that the match was thrown.
ScoRpS
caedam scorpionibus
#57 - 2012-07-09 11:53:26 UTC
The question was aimed at the ATX team, get a grip.
sarsa
No Laws Apply
Unforgiving.
#58 - 2012-07-09 12:37:31 UTC  |  Edited by: sarsa
ry ry wrote:
ScoRpS wrote:
After watching this match on you tube I was concerned that the commentators suggested that match fixing at this stage of the tournament is ok?

This match was by far a more conclusive case of colluding then the indicators used against us pre-tournament.

Would the ATX team care to comment?






>implying we'd be competent enough to actually fix a match. If you and hydra couldn't manage it there is no way we could.

Fact of the matter is, the vindicator's guns burned out. It'll be there in the logs plain as day.

A surprise result, sure, but fearless are ******* horrible at spaceships anyway. And it is frankly insulting to the talented spacewarriors of Nulli Secunda to suggest that the match was thrown.


I suggest you to stop this.

For Scorps this is just one of the cases the first one was with test and it was tolerated, and ofc if everyone saw that happening they would apply to it. So giving fearless as an example not quite accurate as it seems.

My question would be put this way: Why the referee accepted TEST buying their way through in a competition where skills and tactics has the only saying ?

The should have been banned like OB and Hydra was.

NOTE: Rules apply the same regardless of the team.
Aiwha
Infinite Point
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#59 - 2012-07-09 12:41:07 UTC
sarsa wrote:
ry ry wrote:
ScoRpS wrote:
After watching this match on you tube I was concerned that the commentators suggested that match fixing at this stage of the tournament is ok?

This match was by far a more conclusive case of colluding then the indicators used against us pre-tournament.

Would the ATX team care to comment?






>implying we'd be competent enough to actually fix a match. If you and hydra couldn't manage it there is no way we could.

Fact of the matter is, the vindicator's guns burned out. It'll be there in the logs plain as day.

A surprise result, sure, but fearless are ******* horrible at spaceships anyway. And it is frankly insulting to the talented spacewarriors of Nulli Secunda to suggest that the match was thrown.


I suggest you to stop this.

For Scorps this is just one of the cases the first one was with test and it was tolerated, and ofc if everyone saw that happening they would apply to it. So giving fearless as an example not quite accurate as it seems.

My question would be put this way: Why the referee accepted TEST buying their way through in a competition where skills and tactis has the only saying ?

The should have been banned like OB and Hydra was.

NOTE: Rules apply the same regardless of the team.



Because Metagaming is a skill like any other.


The issue is when metagame is used to harrass the viewers rather than to advance your own cause.

CCP said that match fixing was fine to a degree, but building it up and manipulating the entire tournament just to ruin it would not be tolerated.


tl;dr Match fixing is fine, tournament fixing is not.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.

sarsa
No Laws Apply
Unforgiving.
#60 - 2012-07-09 12:43:47 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
sarsa wrote:
ry ry wrote:
ScoRpS wrote:
After watching this match on you tube I was concerned that the commentators suggested that match fixing at this stage of the tournament is ok?

This match was by far a more conclusive case of colluding then the indicators used against us pre-tournament.

Would the ATX team care to comment?






>implying we'd be competent enough to actually fix a match. If you and hydra couldn't manage it there is no way we could.

Fact of the matter is, the vindicator's guns burned out. It'll be there in the logs plain as day.

A surprise result, sure, but fearless are ******* horrible at spaceships anyway. And it is frankly insulting to the talented spacewarriors of Nulli Secunda to suggest that the match was thrown.


I suggest you to stop this.

For Scorps this is just one of the cases the first one was with test and it was tolerated, and ofc if everyone saw that happening they would apply to it. So giving fearless as an example not quite accurate as it seems.

My question would be put this way: Why the referee accepted TEST buying their way through in a competition where skills and tactis has the only saying ?

The should have been banned like OB and Hydra was.

NOTE: Rules apply the same regardless of the team.



Because Metagaming is a skill like any other.


The issue is when metagame is used to harrass the viewers rather than to advance your own cause.

CCP said that match fixing was fine to a degree, but building it up and manipulating the entire tournament just to ruin it would not be tolerated.


tl;dr Match fixing is fine, tournament fixing is not.



And what did Ob and Hydra did ? They fixed the match. A match. One match. Care to explain me how 2 teams of 64 could have manipulated the tournament? Please do care to explain i am intrigued by your logic.