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Kat Valja
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-09 10:36:21 UTC
nine years ago I had one night of love with a man I thought loved me only to be cruelly abandoned to raise our child alone. Now my son wants to know his father but all I know is that he was training to be a pilot when we shared our breif ectasy. i have promised him I will find his father for him even though the name he gave me was a fake.

Someone among you must know who this man is, even maybe you are that man yourself. Show a bit of compassion for the woman and child you abandoned and speak up.
Mjalnar Gessenier
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-07-09 11:07:33 UTC
Well, I did get drunk on more than one occasion when I was working private security in the State a few years back. Unfortunately, I am unable to provide genetic data under CONCORD personal data laws.

Sorry, dear.

-Gessenier.
Diablo Ex
Nocturne Holdings
#3 - 2012-07-09 12:00:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Diablo Ex
...a plea for compassion?
You have an 8 year old child, and you chose to apply to SWC for Capsuleer training?
Who is taking care of him while you are jacked into your Pod? Hmmm..?
Sounds to me like you have abandoned him to the Ishukone Corp Boarding Schools.
He would have been better off in Matar Foster Care if you ask me...

Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem"

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#4 - 2012-07-09 12:46:35 UTC
Not to be heartless, but here is why no one is going to be able to help you.

"Help me, pilots of New Eden. Some random capsuleer (?) somewhere got me pregnant after a 1 night stand and I cannot provide you any additional information that would help you tell me who he is."

It's possible that you might shame him into showing his face, but I doubt it. Capsuleers tend not to have a lot of shame.
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#5 - 2012-07-09 14:47:01 UTC
Geez, what an offer. You'll have the lads lining up around the block to get tested for paternity...
Anabella Rella
Gradient
Electus Matari
#6 - 2012-07-09 15:40:49 UTC
I wish you luck in your search Capt. Valja however, judging from the responses so far and knowing what I do of male pilots, I wouldn't expect much from this selfish, amoral lot.

When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around.

Diablo Ex
Nocturne Holdings
#7 - 2012-07-09 15:50:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Diablo Ex
Anabella Rella wrote:
I wish you luck in your search Capt. Valja however, judging from the responses so far and knowing what I do of male pilots, I wouldn't expect much from this selfish, amoral lot.


We are what we are. I suspect with a mother like Capt. Valia, this young 8 year old will grow up with as much contempt for women who are as irresponsible as his mother appears to be. You just can't point an accusational finger at the men and be absolved of your own guilt. It would be wise of you to take personal responsibility and convert to the morally superior Amarr way as I have done.

Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem"

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#8 - 2012-07-09 16:11:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
She never did specifically say this 'pilot' was a Capsuleer. It could be a transport pilot, or a dropship pilot, or a fighter pilot.

If it is indeed a Capsuleer you slept with - without using protection - you're mostly out of luck. There's little to cry foul about. You did not take the proper precautions. In fact, you don't even have his name. Just how much 'love' was in this steamy night, if you haven't even got a name to offer?

It seems to me that your story is either a fabulous display of your own promiscuity and lack of common sense, an outright lie designed to bait some ultra rich Capsuleer into sending you ISK, or merely flawed and incomplete as told.

The short of this post is this:

Learn a man's name before bedding him, and wear protection if you are unprepared for children.

Katrina Oniseki

Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
#9 - 2012-07-09 17:11:36 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
She never did specifically say this 'pilot' was a Capsuleer. It could be a transport pilot, or a dropship pilot, or a fighter pilot.

If it is indeed a Capsuleer you slept with - without using protection - you're mostly out of luck. There's little to cry foul about. You did not take the proper precautions. In fact, you don't even have his name. Just how much 'love' was in this steamy night, if you haven't even got a name to offer?

It seems to me that your story is either a fabulous display of your own promiscuity and lack of common sense, an outright lie designed to bait some ultra rich Capsuleer into sending you ISK, or merely flawed and incomplete as told.

The short of this post is this:

Learn a man's name before bedding him, and wear protection if you are unprepared for children.


^^That.^^

So very much, that.

Having a vagina doesn't exempt one from responsibility for one's bad choices, nor yet consequences of same.

Star Wars: the Old Republic may not be EVE. But I'll take the sound of dual blaster-pistols over "NURVV CLAOKING NAOW!!!11oneone!!" any day of the week.

Benjamin Eastwood
#10 - 2012-07-09 17:43:38 UTC
Sorry, even though I've worked many a contract for Ishukone, I'm not sure I can help you with such vague descriptions.

All the multitudes of birth control available in New Eden, and you couldn't be bothered to take the time to select one? Maybe the pilot wasn't heartless, maybe he was honor bound to perform a task that couldn't be inconvenienced by a one night stand with a woman too naive to protect herself from pregnancy? Have you thought about how HE feels in all of this?

"Endless ISK, the sinews of war"

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#11 - 2012-07-09 17:47:00 UTC
Tarryn Nightstorm wrote:
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
She never did specifically say this 'pilot' was a Capsuleer. It could be a transport pilot, or a dropship pilot, or a fighter pilot.

If it is indeed a Capsuleer you slept with - without using protection - you're mostly out of luck. There's little to cry foul about. You did not take the proper precautions. In fact, you don't even have his name. Just how much 'love' was in this steamy night, if you haven't even got a name to offer?

It seems to me that your story is either a fabulous display of your own promiscuity and lack of common sense, an outright lie designed to bait some ultra rich Capsuleer into sending you ISK, or merely flawed and incomplete as told.

The short of this post is this:

Learn a man's name before bedding him, and wear protection if you are unprepared for children.


^^That.^^

So very much, that.

Having a vagina doesn't exempt one from responsibility for one's bad choices, nor yet consequences of same.


You both presume that she didn't use protection. You also ignore the fact that she said she was given a name - a false one. She is not the one shirking her responsibilities here. You needn't scold or shame her.

Miss Valja. Feel free to contact me if you like. I have access to the Lai Dai Genomic Registry and am able to run a search for you, if you can provide me with a genetic sample from yourself and your son. Regardless, best of luck in your search.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-07-09 18:00:51 UTC
Hah!

Sabik now, Sabik forever

Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#13 - 2012-07-09 18:10:10 UTC
Scherezad wrote:

You both presume that she didn't use protection. You also ignore the fact that she said she was given a name - a false one. She is not the one shirking her responsibilities here. You needn't scold or shame her.


A 'fake name' does not work as a very useful excuse. How often does a fake name carry for long in a relationship, unless the one under alias is trained and well equipped to hold that cover? Now compare that to how often a one-night-stand is held under alias, with no relationship or strings attached.

Regardless, it's beside the greater point I'm making.

I will and do scold and shame her for the poor choices she has quite obviously made. If I knew who the father was, I'd do the same to him and quite happily point him here to answer for this foolishness.

Neither one of them were prepared for this child, or this situation would not exist. There is no sympathy for that.

Katrina Oniseki

Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#14 - 2012-07-09 21:20:21 UTC
Even Jovin Ketils had more style than this tramp.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2012-07-09 21:56:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
I will and do scold and shame her for the poor choices she has quite obviously made. If I knew who the father was, I'd do the same to him and quite happily point him here to answer for this foolishness.


Ms. Oniseki ...

Scolding a woman for an event whose outcome burdens her life is redundant at best.

Apparently this woman did not choose to end her pregnancy, nor to give the child up to the creche or for adoption. If you decry her original choice (which may not have been wholly witting, alcohol being what it is), you should at least concede that she is taking responsibility for the life she brought into the world, however unintentionally.

The same cannot be said of a man who deceives a woman, then trots merrily off to live his life after likely ruining hers.

If he survived training, he now has wealth beyond what most "mere mortals" can dream. If she is herself a capsuleer, there's little reason for concern about her economic status, but if she's just a woman who managed to somehow gain access to the IGS, he can provide for her, and for his child, for life with less than the cost of a frigate.

If he can manage that, very well. If not-- if he's going to play the part of the lord sporting with peasants, and never mind the consequences-- he deserves several harsh lessons involving each of his clones and a rusty filleting knife.

... So that he might cause no further harm, if for no other reason.
Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#16 - 2012-07-09 22:46:36 UTC
Are you people all stupid? Miss Valja I will start with you. I understand things happen my dear, things that seem like a good idea at the time that have ways of nipping at your heels for the rest of your life, but even if we could give you a name right here and now would you want one? If the pilot in question is an empyrean, and you get the answers you would like, not only have you willingly and stupidly put your life and your child's life in danger, you have also endangered the lives of anyone near you too.

Let me tell you a story. One of my children was taken by Blood Raiders years ago while me and some tribesmen were off trying to liberate some slaves from the Amarr. In the middle of a running gun fight with the Imperial Navy we recieved word that our sanctuary had been raided and we broke off operations and made our way home.

Over the course of the next several months we, The Mir'Mulnir Tribe, followed leads to get not only my daughter back, but all those taken. We raised Amarrian Holdings to the ground, executed CONCORD officials, engaged Gallente Militia fleets that got in our way and when we finally got a location, names...we really got bloody.

This is not me saying "look how dangerous we are...fear me", what I am saying is that if we are talking about an empyrean, then there is nothing that can stop him from coming to take your child, or to destroy his shame no matter the cost. The chances that he reads this and has a sudden "I feel remorse and I should do right by these people" moment is unlikely. At best he will feel secure, insulated by lawyers and red tape, at worst he will move to destroy anything that may, one day long from now, have a genetic claim to what is his and snuff out that threat now.

I would recommend another avenue for you and your child. Contact the Sisters of Eve, they have a department that handles financial support for the victims of empyrean's and perhaps a case can be made for you and your daughter in this light.
Kazzzi
Heathen Legion
Iron Men of the Hood
#17 - 2012-07-09 23:07:38 UTC
Wasn't me this time.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2012-07-09 23:12:23 UTC
Los Muertas wrote:
... what I am saying is that if we are talking about an empyrean, then there is nothing that can stop him from coming to take your child, or to destroy his shame no matter the cost. The chances that he reads this and has a sudden "I feel remorse and I should do right by these people" moment is unlikely. At best he will feel secure, insulated by lawyers and red tape, at worst he will move to destroy anything that may, one day long from now, have a genetic claim to what is his and snuff out that threat now.


Hm.

... I don't agree, pilot. Attracting the attention of the powerful has always been dangerous, and capsuleers are sometimes quite insane, but the odds of running into somebody uncaring are (astronomically, I think) greater than those of running into someone self-consciously nefarious. Most of us don't much care what happens to our stuff after we're forever dead, and our quasi-sovereignty protects our holdings from virtually everybody until then.

The worst case is still bad, but pretty unlikely-- probably much less likely than it would be if the cad were a holder, a corporate exec, or a tribal leader with a reputation and legally-reachable assets to protect.
Los Muertas
HDYLTA
#19 - 2012-07-09 23:22:22 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Los Muertas wrote:
... what I am saying is that if we are talking about an empyrean, then there is nothing that can stop him from coming to take your child, or to destroy his shame no matter the cost. The chances that he reads this and has a sudden "I feel remorse and I should do right by these people" moment is unlikely. At best he will feel secure, insulated by lawyers and red tape, at worst he will move to destroy anything that may, one day long from now, have a genetic claim to what is his and snuff out that threat now.


Hm.

... I don't agree, pilot. Attracting the attention of the powerful has always been dangerous, and capsuleers are sometimes quite insane, but the odds of running into somebody uncaring are (astronomically, I think) greater than those of running into someone self-consciously nefarious. Most of us don't much care what happens to our stuff after we're forever dead, and our quasi-sovereignty protects our holdings from virtually everybody until then.

The worst case is still bad, but pretty unlikely-- probably much less likely than it would be if the cad were a holder, a corporate exec, or a tribal leader with a reputation and legally-reachable assets to protect.


And I dont disagree that most would simply say whatever and throw the kid some ISK, if anything ever comes of it in the first place. But let me ask you this, when you were still a young empyrean and working for agents, did you ever destroy enemy facilities, after their naval defenses were gone and the contract fullfiled, because you knew that sometimes there may be good salvage int there? I know I did, and I know that there were people in there that have never held a pistol, harmed a soul and had no reason to die other then I wanted to salvage what was there. I could lie to you and say something like "they were enemies of my people...blah blah blah", but I respect you all enough not to lie to you and insult your intelligence. I did it for the money, to make more of it and because those people were unimportant to me and I would not hesitate to do it again to anyone but my fellow Minmatar.

Contact the Sisters of Eve, dont risk it.
Diablo Ex
Nocturne Holdings
#20 - 2012-07-09 23:28:42 UTC
... there is also the consideration that the seminal donor in question may in fact be completely ignorant of the situation. I find that I would have much difficulty myself in confirming or denying my involvement here, as it occurred almost a decade hence. He most likely is unaware that he left such a (...ahem...) "loose end" (pardon the double entendre).

Diablo Ex Machina - "I'm not here to fix your problem"

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