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Pipa Porto
#181 - 2012-07-09 05:17:47 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:

again... as I said... I WASNT rumormongering as the above poster was. I dont like being banned


Ah, I'm sorry. The way the quote's nested, I thought you were warning me about rumors and agreeing with the guy I quoted. My bad.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Pipa Porto
#182 - 2012-07-09 05:22:39 UTC
Dersk wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps.


You can just change the date in the URLs.

http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.png = november 26, 2009. Easy.


That's great if you have a date in mind, less great if you want to browse through occasional entries to find an event you had in mind.

It'll work, it's just kludgy.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#183 - 2012-07-09 06:50:54 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Dersk wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
EDIT: Would be nice to have a list of all of Verite's maps. EvEfiles truncates at a couple hundred, and its search function works poorly for finding Verite's maps.


You can just change the date in the URLs.

http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20091126.png = november 26, 2009. Easy.


That's great if you have a date in mind, less great if you want to browse through occasional entries to find an event you had in mind.

It'll work, it's just kludgy.


eh? thats a dev in a company called Kerberos Software

http://www.kerberos-productions.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1008

lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Commonwealth Vanguard
#184 - 2012-07-09 07:23:49 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.


I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.


What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons?

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#185 - 2012-07-09 07:26:44 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.

I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.

What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons?

Our tech moons just outside Jita 4-4, a little past the statue, to the right, you see it?

It's the thing that looks like its making an obscene gesture.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#186 - 2012-07-09 07:35:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Antisocial Malkavian
Rico Minali wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.


I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.


What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons?


no I think they thought they could ... what was it GSF said...?

Oh yeah "bring it"... but apparently CCP disagreed
Oh and that was TOTALLY unasked for by GSF too.

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Prince Kobol
#187 - 2012-07-09 07:36:10 UTC
Here is the thing, in any war you want allies.

The more allies you have the better chance of success. The Goons have shown that not only are they very at gathering allies but they are also very good at keeping those allies within the CFC happy.

From my own personal experience and of those people I know who have flown in both the North and South is that the Goon treat their allies, friends and renters fairly well where as the guys in the south treat there allies, friends and renters like ****.

As long as this continues the CFC will continue to grow and flourish where as others like Solar, -A- will stagnate and lose members.

Then the issue of numbers comes into the argument. Any chance this might have to do with CFC members actually wanting to fight for their allies without having to be told to fight like so many others.

Until the other coalitions learn that whilst you keep treating your allies, renters, friends like **** you will never be able to beat the CFC.

At the moment as much as it pains me to say this, currently the only way I can see the CFC losing is if they turn against each other which is very unlikely.

I can see the likes of Solar and -A- turning on each other long before the CFC do.
adam smash
Department of Gub'nent Welfare
Harkonnen Federation
#188 - 2012-07-09 07:55:53 UTC
gota love all the tears.

Plain and simple here how did the USA "beat" russia in the cold war

O right we out spent them.

Holding all that tech... you can outspend anyone. As said... it is a **** mechanic.

Also last time I checked... MM and the like never banded like 90% of null togeather. You had the NC and the SC...

And ya bob never lost, they died to stupid game mechanics.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#189 - 2012-07-09 08:00:57 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Here is the thing, in any war you want allies.

The more allies you have the better chance of success. The Goons have shown that not only are they very at gathering allies but they are also very good at keeping those allies within the CFC happy.

From my own personal experience and of those people I know who have flown in both the North and South is that the Goon treat their allies, friends and renters fairly well where as the guys in the south treat there allies, friends and renters like ****.

As long as this continues the CFC will continue to grow and flourish where as others like Solar, -A- will stagnate and lose members.

Then the issue of numbers comes into the argument. Any chance this might have to do with CFC members actually wanting to fight for their allies without having to be told to fight like so many others.

Until the other coalitions learn that whilst you keep treating your allies, renters, friends like **** you will never be able to beat the CFC.

At the moment as much as it pains me to say this, currently the only way I can see the CFC losing is if they turn against each other which is very unlikely.

I can see the likes of Solar and -A- turning on each other long before the CFC do.


cant wait till 0.0 shows all CFC lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
#190 - 2012-07-09 08:01:18 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
Xinivrae wrote:


That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.

Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi.

Your alliance (which apparently forbids posting in EVE-Online forums) can make deals and pacts with other alliances too.

Which apparently is too much effort, thus the golden oldie excuse of CFC blobbing the crap out of anyone going against us.
Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Ixion Defence Systems
#191 - 2012-07-09 09:15:09 UTC
Angst IronShard wrote:
When all 0.0 will be in the hands of Goons, well, I wonder what will be the point to play at EvE :/

The sov system is a failure as many others game's mechanics.

I am pretty sure that you rate as a failure every mechanic in this game that doesn't help you gain an advantage over the rest of the players.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#192 - 2012-07-09 09:19:35 UTC
Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:
Angst IronShard wrote:
When all 0.0 will be in the hands of Goons, well, I wonder what will be the point to play at EvE :/

The sov system is a failure as many others game's mechanics.

I am pretty sure that you rate as a failure every mechanic in this game that doesn't help you gain an advantage over the rest of the players.

Tech is a great success of a mechanic.

Please nerf it, tia. Titans as well.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#193 - 2012-07-09 09:21:07 UTC
Mithrantir Ob'lontra wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
Xinivrae wrote:


That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.

Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi.

Your alliance (which apparently forbids posting in EVE-Online forums) can make deals and pacts with other alliances too.

Which apparently is too much effort, thus the golden oldie excuse of CFC blobbing the crap out of anyone going against us.


You bring anything I don't like, I dock.

You don't want fights, fine. Dock up, dock up.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2012-07-09 09:23:33 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Rico Minali wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.


I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.


What? So you all thought you could wardec GSF, have a hisec war and win tech moons?


no I think they thought they could ... what was it GSF said...?

Oh yeah "bring it"... but apparently CCP disagreed
Oh and that was TOTALLY unasked for by GSF too.

The GSF didn't ask for any wardec changes, in fact the only effects we see of the wardec changes are fewer evemail spam notifications of privateer alliance, the 0rphanage (except they disbanded yesterday :laffo:) etc initiating week #2347 of wardecs against us, and then proceed to do nothing but sit at jita 4-4 and cull our dumber members who haven't learned to use neutral alts yet.

I'm torn as to whether the loss of evemail spam is worth our dumber members not getting a very necessary schooling in how to travel around in hisec.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#195 - 2012-07-09 09:27:47 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
The GSF didn't ask for any wardec changes, in fact the only effects we see of the wardec changes are fewer evemail spam notifications of privateer alliance, the 0rphanage (except they disbanded yesterday :laffo:) etc initiating week #2347 of wardecs against us, and then proceed to do nothing but sit at jita 4-4 and cull our dumber members who haven't learned to use neutral alts yet.

I'm torn as to whether the loss of evemail spam is worth our dumber members not getting a very necessary schooling in how to travel around in hisec.

I liked jumping through camps of WTs in my covert ops ship.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#196 - 2012-07-09 10:08:46 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:

The GSF didn't ask for any wardec changes, in fact the only effects we see of the wardec changes are fewer evemail spam notifications of privateer alliance, the 0rphanage (except they disbanded yesterday :laffo:) etc initiating week #2347 of wardecs against us, and then proceed to do nothing but sit at jita 4-4 and cull our dumber members who haven't learned to use neutral alts yet.

I'm torn as to whether the loss of evemail spam is worth our dumber members not getting a very necessary schooling in how to travel around in hisec.

Didn't anyone tell you, 0rphange are (were, wololololol) elite pvp Roll
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#197 - 2012-07-09 10:32:11 UTC
Delnas Sapphire wrote:
Soco being fined for talking in local?
Soco being told to shut up everytime they speak in TS?
Soco having maka whelp fleets everytime he undocks?
Soco having mandatory ops and directors chewing corps out if someone misses one?

You wonder why people don't beat GS, this is just one war and the reason they are winning is because they aren't full of ****** rules and are actually able to enjoy themselves whilst other 0.0 entities act like a dictatorship.

Once alliances start to realize treating your members like **** doesn't work they might actually be able to mount a proper offensive.



Huh?

You aren't supposed to yap in local in fleet, this far from unique to SoCo. It's more about class.
People get told to shut up in fleets, specifically if they are backdoor FCing. You want to FC put up a fleet, nothing is stopping you. Otherwise, its pretty much die quietly, follow orders and don't bump the titan.
If by whelp you mean lose ships to superior numbers.....Meh. We come out ahead in 9:10 engagements. The only BRdocs Ive seen were the Loki fleet you guys zerged 4 : 1 and C3N

What mandatory OPs? There was nothing after C3N and even I have never seen people taking attendance. It may be a corp thing, but we aren't out here to rat, if there is a CTA fleet up. I' ve never heard of attendance being taken, we are an international alliance, people have jobs NO ONE makes every CTA for a campaign.
Can we try to keep it at least slightly within reason.
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#198 - 2012-07-09 10:48:49 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Delnas Sapphire wrote:
Soco being fined for talking in local?
Soco being told to shut up everytime they speak in TS?
Soco having maka whelp fleets everytime he undocks?
Soco having mandatory ops and directors chewing corps out if someone misses one?

You wonder why people don't beat GS, this is just one war and the reason they are winning is because they aren't full of ****** rules and are actually able to enjoy themselves whilst other 0.0 entities act like a dictatorship.

Once alliances start to realize treating your members like **** doesn't work they might actually be able to mount a proper offensive.



Huh?

You aren't supposed to yap in local in fleet, this far from unique to SoCo. It's more about class.
People get told to shut up in fleets, specifically if they are backdoor FCing. You want to FC put up a fleet, nothing is stopping you. Otherwise, its pretty much die quietly, follow orders and don't bump the titan.
If by whelp you mean lose ships to superior numbers.....Meh. We come out ahead in 9:10 engagements. The only BRdocs Ive seen were the Loki fleet you guys zerged 4 : 1 and C3N

What mandatory OPs? There was nothing after C3N and even I have never seen people taking attendance. It may be a corp thing, but we aren't out here to rat, if there is a CTA fleet up. I' ve never heard of attendance being taken, we are an international alliance, people have jobs NO ONE makes every CTA for a campaign.
Can we try to keep it at least slightly within reason.


http://soundcloud.com/dariush_records/soco-fight-07-07

Your FCs write our propaganda for us.
Prince Kobol
#199 - 2012-07-09 11:46:30 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
Here is the thing, in any war you want allies.

The more allies you have the better chance of success. The Goons have shown that not only are they very at gathering allies but they are also very good at keeping those allies within the CFC happy.

From my own personal experience and of those people I know who have flown in both the North and South is that the Goon treat their allies, friends and renters fairly well where as the guys in the south treat there allies, friends and renters like ****.

As long as this continues the CFC will continue to grow and flourish where as others like Solar, -A- will stagnate and lose members.

Then the issue of numbers comes into the argument. Any chance this might have to do with CFC members actually wanting to fight for their allies without having to be told to fight like so many others.

Until the other coalitions learn that whilst you keep treating your allies, renters, friends like **** you will never be able to beat the CFC.

At the moment as much as it pains me to say this, currently the only way I can see the CFC losing is if they turn against each other which is very unlikely.

I can see the likes of Solar and -A- turning on each other long before the CFC do.


cant wait till 0.0 shows all CFC lol


and yet as it currently stands it will not happen simply because all the other alliances are incredibly paranoid that everybody is a spy and treat everybody like ****.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#200 - 2012-07-09 11:50:46 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
If only 10% of high sec dwellers were to form an alliance, they would likely out number even the largest null sec alliance by 7 to 1.


I do believe they tried that.... and got hammered down when the wardec costs were (totally unasked for by the corp in question) changed.



I do believe that war declarations are not a requirement for combat in Null Sec, which is where the alliances live, no?

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.