Ships & Modules

As above, its time for a new ship.
i play pve am caldari and use missiles. my drake is still doing what i need it to do 9survive) however i am now able to jump into lvl4 missions. i have done the training and can now choose raven or tengu. my main source of income is from missions/loot/salvage so speed blitzing the mission is not important to me, killing everything and having a good tank is. i have over 3 mths training before i can consider a golem

i am drawn towards a raven, but would like somemore opinions and fits if possible

cheers.

Personally I would go for the Tengu as it is so adaptable. It is however expensive for a mission boat, but it will pay for itself many times over.

Don't be tempted to pimp fit it - especially if you mission in a large mission hub. T2 fit is more than enough for level 4 missions.

I dont have my eve computer with me at the moment but Battleclinic has a lot fo fits for the Tengu for both PVE and PVP.

Advise you check them all out and decide which fit would suit you best.

Good luck!

You might want to check out this thread I made, though a slightly different topic the points various people made there might help you decide what you would like to fly.

I can't. I am matari pilot, I used matari gun boats for L1-3, then I cross trained to caldari bs. My experience was Raven, then Navy Raven, then Navy Scorp, at which point I kicked myself for wasting isk on Navy Raven. If I knew back then what I know now, I would have gone Raven, then Navy Scorp.

I got my first drake after I spend 6 or more months flying ravens. The only thing I use my drakes for are: exploration and ratting.

many thanks for the replies and link.
i managed my 1st lvl4 today in my drake and survived without any difficulties, lost 14 drones though hob 1's mission was angel extravaganza. i must next time remember to loot as i go took my about 3 hours and some of the wreck's had gone :(

three hours is wwaaaaay too long. just think about how many lvl3s you would have finished in that time. as for ship selection: the tengu is arguably the best missile ship in the game. you can fly against guristas, serpentis, angels or drones and rip through battlecruisers in two volleys. it's also relatively cheap; you can get a full fit under 1bil. just invest in at least two caldari BCUs and you're god.
that said, the shortest route to semidecent lvl4 running is training for the raven navy issue. skill-wise it is a dead end because you won't be using cruise missiles or caldari battleship skills for anything else, but it will get you your lvl4 income in a relatively short time. scorpion navy is also nice, but the raven will outperform it as soon as your tank skills are anything but horrible.

You only blitz if you want lp. If you want straight up isk, you kill everything.

no, a navy raven is essentially a upgraded raven :P

You should go for a Tengu, a Tengu is a nice ship. That way you can keep using heavy missiles and NOT spend any skillpoints on cruise missiles or Caldari battleship training. Heavy missiles is a good skill to have, cruise missiles is not.

Once you have a good Tengu you start immediately crosstraining for projectile turrets and Minmatar battleship. And do what you should do if you like doing missions: get a Vargur or a Machariel. The Golem and also the Raven is just lackluster compared to those monsters.

Scorpion Navy Issue is far out the cheapest option.

Tengu is about a Billion ISK, CNR about 700 ISK, SNI closer to 500 ISK.

Also there is less need to fit Faction or Ded Space modules on a SNI.

SNI is easer to fly on low skills, CNR is realy a High end BS.

Tengu is a fine choise but not because it trains so much easier or is shorter, not to you anyway, you are already a missile pilot so you'll be flying a BS faster than a tengu total training time will not differ to much.

My guess is you don't have Caldari Cruiser 5 wich is about 16 days on a perception willpower path. within that time only you'll have BS 4 and Cruise missiles 4 and are half about halfway with Cruise 5.

Guided Missile Precision is a must skill with Cruise missiles though.

I'd advice you to try a Raven first just to get used to the active tanking, take an SNI from there, CNR, Tengu are cool ships to pick up in a latter stage.

and if you're not blitzing I'd forget about the Tengu as a mission ship.

PS, Missions like Angel extra verganza are excelent Salvage missions, bring a Noctis though.

PPS, when starting lvl 4 in caldari space avoid the Extra Vaganza Bonus levels and Enemies Abound part 5