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Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-07-08 22:19:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:

Examples are
BOB gets betrayed, BOB disolves by betrayal, all the isk stolen.
IT rebirth and revenge. Goons disolves, all the isk stolen. IT disolves
DRF takes down the NC(old coalition that was believed to be unbrakable). NC disolves
DRF disolves

and many many other examples



Your post sure seems smart enough, and I am sure that you felt pretty smart posting it. Except everything that you said here is complete bunk, and utterly worthless. The real culprit behind every event that you stated was CCP spontaneously changing the game mechanics, or, a result of mechanics that were shotty in the first place.


Arrow DRF took down the unbreakable NC because of CCP's Super carrier buff, Drone region macro mining and the sudden proliferation of supers.
Arrow Goons died because they forgot to pay the rental bill ( a new ccp mechanic at the time)
Arrow BOB died because CCP thinks it's ok for sov 5 to go poof with a click of a button, instead of the 24 stasis req for anything else of importance in eve. Also, directors cannot declare war so why can they kill everything when people are sleeping?
Arrow IT alliance died because they needed to become goons in terms of sheer number, just so they could deal with dominions new mechanics and pay the sov bills. They needed the rent, and that bred discourse among the old timers who have been playing the game together since the beginning.


So you see no sand box. No sand box at all. These changes were directly precipitated by CCP's **** ups, and if they had not done these thing there would still be a BOB, a goonswarm and an NC. So please put a cork in it, because you have no idea what you are talking about. Roll


jeez man. DId i twisted you nipples? I was only giving him examples.
You talk alot of crap regarding the supercaps but we all know that NC held their space a year before by grid lock bug. Just put 2000 plus people in system before fight and then snipe everyone while they are in black screen load grid XD. So who is worst? the entity that uses bugs to block system client load or an entity that save up and used it in the fight effectively? It dont mean that supers are not op thought. Are you really that stupid to believe that there was no macro mining going in the NC? Come on Roll

Only an idiot will actually belive that goons forgot to pay rent! LOL. I would love to hear how you spin the fact that very soon after the alliance was disbanded the CEO took all the isk and ran away with it. Coinsidence? Right...Besides we all know that there was no way goons could hold vs IT back then. They just saved themselves the embarassment! IT had defeatd PL, goons and friends in PL space and PL left for genimate. IT began to hit goons space and goons allies began to move out in masses. Freighters were loading and jumping out everything. Its no secret. Only and idiot believe the story of "i forgot to pay rent". XDDD

I dont know what did i said about the BOB thing that enraged you so much? I did not say the contrary but it could not have been done without betrayal so it counts as been part of the sandbox

IT was just a means to get revenge from all the bad stuff that happened to them and they did get their sweet revenge. What happened afterwards was just what happened.

Frantically you are getting pissed off for no reason.
Need to get your head checked and then rechecked again by another specialist Lol
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-07-08 22:35:35 UTC
Rico Minali wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
10k? lmfao

The number is far, far higher than that.


About 50k last estimate.

Since everyone else in Eve hates and wants to kill the CFC (apparently) that means the CFC are outnumbered some 300K to 50 K or 6 to 1. Clearly they can not lose and the rest of Eve will fall to the CFC and their superior numbers and tactics.


The rest of Eve are a bunch of idiots waiting to be culled.


Fixed.

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#23 - 2012-07-09 00:09:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Andrea Roche wrote:
CryCryCryCry


It's ok, try not to cry about it. People will forget your bad post in no time, I promise.




Django Returns wrote:

Is this true? CCP did all those changes and it hat kinda big impact on some alliances?


And yes...the proof is on the old forums, do a google search and read EVE history. It is all pretty much in the archive. Most of what Mr. Andrea Roche Butthurt is talking about coincided with 1. The dominion expansion and 2. the introduction of stupid high HP carriers and fighter bombers (and the after effects of these two things) He also failed to mention that the most sizable portion of supers owned in the game, shortly their after, ended up belonging to the drone regions and the Russian marcobots that supposedly did not live there (but of course who wants to remember that little fact right?) It is better to cry foul and pretend that you are right, amiright?

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Desimus Maximus
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2012-07-09 00:16:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Wouldn't it be "Astro-political"... "Solar-political"??

OP, Goons dominate nothing. It's like when an amateur is handed the reigns of a super power, the overwhelming amount of money flowing is enough to prevent even the most incompetent wannabes from failing... -snip-

Post edited for non-EVE content.

ISD Tyrozan
Forum Foreplay
#25 - 2012-07-09 00:29:21 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Nothwest vs Southeast, with Delve as the current front line.

That's basically it.


Which way is north? Shocked

Even a sandbox has borders to keep the sand inside...
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#26 - 2012-07-09 00:31:44 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Nothwest vs Southeast, with Delve as the current front line.

That's basically it.


and as I see it on the kbs Delve being outnumbered 100 to 1 the OP basically has it right lol

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2012-07-09 00:33:06 UTC
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Nothwest vs Southeast, with Delve as the current front line.

That's basically it.


and as I see it on the kbs Delve being outnumbered 100 to 1 the OP basically has it right lol


the fact that SoCo doesn't want to commit is not our problem gf gf

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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2012-07-09 01:10:15 UTC
Django Returns wrote:


Is this true? CCP did all those changes and it hat kinda big impact on some alliances?


Absolutely.

Ask PL, they essentially got obsoleted by Dominion. Ever wonder where the eleventy billion stations in Fountain came from? Yeah.
Andrea Roche
State War Academy
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-07-09 01:17:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrea Roche
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:
CryCryCryCry


It's ok, try not to cry about it. People will forget your bad post in no time, I promise.




Django Returns wrote:

Is this true? CCP did all those changes and it hat kinda big impact on some alliances?


And yes...the proof is on the old forums, do a google search and read EVE history. It is all pretty much in the archive. Most of what Mr. Andrea Roche Butthurt is talking about coincided with 1. The dominion expansion and 2. the introduction of stupid high HP carriers and fighter bombers (and the after effects of these two things) He also failed to mention that the most sizable portion of supers owned in the game, shortly their after, ended up belonging to the drone regions and the Russian marcobots that supposedly did not live there (but of course who wants to remember that little fact right?) It is better to cry foul and pretend that you are right, amiright?



lol your original post says a lot about who really is the crying here and butt hurt.
Sounds like you are ex NC/goon.
I do love how you nipples still hurt with your last post.
I sur would love you to show me where i crying foul? XD
enjoy
Twisted
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#30 - 2012-07-09 01:25:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Cahill
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Andrea Roche wrote:

Examples are
BOB gets betrayed, BOB disolves by betrayal, all the isk stolen.
IT rebirth and revenge. Goons disolves, all the isk stolen. IT disolves
DRF takes down the NC(old coalition that was believed to be unbrakable). NC disolves
DRF disolves

and many many other examples



Your post sure seems smart enough, and I am sure that you felt pretty smart posting it. Except everything that you said here is complete bunk, and utterly worthless. The real culprit behind every event that you stated was CCP spontaneously changing the game mechanics, or, a result of mechanics that were shotty in the first place.


Arrow DRF took down the unbreakable NC because of CCP's Super carrier buff, Drone region macro mining and the sudden proliferation of supers.
Arrow Goons died because they forgot to pay the rental bill ( a new ccp mechanic at the time)
Arrow BOB died because CCP thinks it's ok for sov 5 to go poof with a click of a button, instead of the 24 stasis req for anything else of importance in eve. Also, directors cannot declare war so why can they kill everything when people are sleeping?
Arrow IT alliance died because they needed to become goons in terms of sheer number, just so they could deal with dominions new mechanics and pay the sov bills. They needed the rent, and that bred discourse among the old timers who have been playing the game together since the beginning.


So you see no sand box. No sand box at all. These changes were directly precipitated by CCP's **** ups, and if they had not done these thing there would still be a BOB, a goonswarm and an NC. So please put a cork in it, because you have no idea what you are talking about. Roll


You're an idiot. BOB was all but dead 2 months before the disband. The NC was always a paper tiger and fell apart as soon as the DRF blew on it. IT lost fountain because of inferior numbers, they would have lost it for the same reason if dominion had never happened.
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#31 - 2012-07-09 01:44:04 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Nothwest vs Southeast, with Delve as the current front line.

That's basically it.


and as I see it on the kbs Delve being outnumbered 100 to 1 the OP basically has it right lol


the fact that SoCo doesn't want to commit is not our problem gf gf


didnt say it was?

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#32 - 2012-07-09 01:48:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternum Praetorian
Ofc the idea of CCP's failed expansions would rile you guys up so badly, that would naturally diminish your fragile view of how awesome you are at a video game. I understand that you need to feel like you're like real military generals and solders winning a great campaign, but it is just a video game people so chill. Seriously.



CCP's nerfs/expansions/failures have always reshaped both the game and the game board. It is just an unfortunate part of the game play, one that we all wish that we could do without.

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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#33 - 2012-07-09 04:15:02 UTC
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Ofc the idea of CCP's failed expansions would rile you guys up so badly, that would naturally diminish your fragile view of how awesome you are at a video game. I understand that you need to feel like you're like real military generals and solders winning a great campaign, but it is just a video game people so chill. Seriously.



CCP's nerfs/expansions/failures have always reshaped both the game and the game board. It is just an unfortunate part of the game play, one that we all wish that we could do without.


True. If you have an issue vote with your wallet. They seem to respond to hundreds of lost accounts

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

BeforetheStorm90
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2012-07-09 05:05:00 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Eternum Praetorian wrote:
Ofc the idea of CCP's failed expansions would rile you guys up so badly, that would naturally diminish your fragile view of how awesome you are at a video game. I understand that you need to feel like you're like real military generals and solders winning a great campaign, but it is just a video game people so chill. Seriously.



CCP's nerfs/expansions/failures have always reshaped both the game and the game board. It is just an unfortunate part of the game play, one that we all wish that we could do without.


-snip-

Post edited to remove non-EVE material.

ISD Tyrozan
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#35 - 2012-07-09 05:07:57 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Antisocial Malkavian wrote:
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Nothwest vs Southeast, with Delve as the current front line.

That's basically it.

and as I see it on the kbs Delve being outnumbered 100 to 1 the OP basically has it right lol

the fact that SoCo doesn't want to commit is not our problem gf gf

Too bad if you're living to the west of -A-, you're gonna be left to the fires and hoping that your overlord will take back the place later and maybe even let you live on it.

Do you pay rent to them now? You might need to later.

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-07-09 05:10:52 UTC
CCP changes the game in an expansion. Some entities adapt and live on. Some cling to their old, no longer working ways, and die.

This is completely new and never happened before.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#37 - 2012-07-09 05:22:46 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
CCP changes the game in an expansion. Some entities adapt and live on. Some cling to their old, no longer working ways, and die.

This is completely new and never happened before.

Heh. What's that famous phrase about adapting?

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No More Heroes
Boomer Humor
Snuffed Out
#38 - 2012-07-09 05:59:38 UTC  |  Edited by: No More Heroes
Ok we'll do this one more time:

The Third Age (February 2010 - Now)
Dreddit is founded, Goonswarm moves into Delkein, The CFC is established, Cloud Ring is taken from Evoke for the CFC, Fountain is taken from IT for the CFC and given to TEST, IT collapses, the Northern Coalition implodes, head shot VFK fails, and a bunch of other stuff happens.

We come to current events.

After the attack on VFK failed Mister Vee, a top Goonswarm FC, turned his eye on the region of Delve in September 2011. Former Northern Coalition members Morsus Mihi and Br1ck Squad had aquired territory there following their defeat in the North. Evoke also appeared in Delve, gobbling up Chaos Theory and Hun Reloaded territory. The goal was to free port the region and open each station to players no matter their standings while providing fights for CFC members. While the refugees were evicted, the free port concept ultimately failed. The space taken by Goons is slowly ground down by NEM3SIS. Meanwhile, the Drone Russian Federation erupted in a civil war, which is won by Solar Fleet. Nulli Secunda moves in. Red Alliance is evicted from their space and invades Delve. Test and PL found the Honeybadger Coalition and go on several deployments together. NEM3SIS collapses and Red Alliance is left fighting the remaining residents Nulli Secunda and Vera Cruz.

Branch and Tenal are taken and divided between CFC members.

The Honeybadger Coalition, now including TASHA and 99%, came to Delve in search of good fights. Red Alliance and The Southern Coalition residents allied with each other in response. Fights are not forth coming, so the conflict escalated to a sovereignty war for the Greater Delve area, Delve, Querious, and Period Basis. Super capitals were deployed at this time. The war escalated for several reasons. First, the residents posted themselves out of it. Second, CCP hinted at a moon mineral re-balance and Delve has decent R64 moons. Finally, the Delve residents didn't put up much of a defense and systems started falling without much resistance. Faced with losing their space the residents of Delve called in the Southern Coalition (SOCO), Solar, and Raiden escalating the fight again. As a result, the HBC matched the escalation by calling in the CFC.

All of these materials are available in detail at a website which cannot be uttered on the EVE-O forums, ask around and someone will clue you in.

.
Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-07-09 06:18:43 UTC
No More Heroes wrote:
Ok we'll do this one more time:

The Third Age (February 2010 - Now)
Dreddit is founded, Goonswarm moves into Delkein, The CFC is established, Cloud Ring is taken from Evoke for the CFC, Fountain is taken from IT for the CFC and given to TEST, IT collapses, the Northern Coalition implodes, head shot VFK fails, and a bunch of other stuff happens.

We come to current events.

After the attack on VFK failed Mister Vee, a top Goonswarm FC, turned his eye on the region of Delve in September 2011. Former Northern Coalition members Morsus Mihi and Br1ck Squad had aquired territory there following their defeat in the North. Evoke also appeared in Delve, gobbling up Chaos Theory and Hun Reloaded territory. The goal was to free port the region and open each station to players no matter their standings while providing fights for CFC members. While the refugees were evicted, the free port concept ultimately failed. The space taken by Goons is slowly ground down by NEM3SIS. Meanwhile, the Drone Russian Federation erupted in a civil war, which is won by Solar Fleet. Nulli Secunda moves in. Red Alliance is evicted from their space and invades Delve. Test and PL found the Honeybadger Coalition and go on several deployments together. NEM3SIS collapses and Red Alliance is left fighting the remaining residents Nulli Secunda and Vera Cruz.

Branch and Tenal are taken and divided between CFC members.

The Honeybadger Coalition, now including TASHA and 99%, came to Delve in search of good fights. Red Alliance and The Southern Coalition residents allied with each other in response. Fights are not forth coming, so the conflict escalated to a sovereignty war for the Greater Delve area, Delve, Querious, and Period Basis. Super capitals were deployed at this time. The war escalated for several reasons. First, the residents posted themselves out of it. Second, CCP hinted at a moon mineral re-balance and Delve has decent R64 moons. Finally, the Delve residents didn't put up much of a defense and systems started falling without much resistance. Faced with losing their space the residents of Delve called in the Southern Coalition (SOCO), Solar, and Raiden escalating the fight again. As a result, the HBC matched the escalation by calling in the CFC.

All of these materials are available in detail at a website which cannot be uttered on the EVE-O forums, ask around and someone will clue you in.

By which he means kugutsumen.com

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Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#40 - 2012-07-09 06:32:24 UTC
GOONS are being goonish

CCP is doing CCPish things

Big Alliances are doing big alliance things.


ships are exploding.


pods are popping.



there ya go.
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