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Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2012-07-09 01:13:33 UTC
Looking for advice on my Brutix fitting for when I go into PVP. Not nearly ready, but looking for a decent build path. Saw a nice 1000dps on Battleclinic

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2012-07-09 01:32:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Cahill
What exactly do you want to do with it? Solo? Small gang? Large gang?

EDIT - Also S&M -----> that way
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-09 01:35:16 UTC
Cameron Cahill wrote:
What exactly do you want to do with it? Solo? Small gang? Large gang?

EDIT - Also S&M -----> that way


Well in the grand scheme a partner and I doing some PVP/Ransoming etc. So I dont intend on keeping it in Hi sec by any means. But if Im going to lose it in PVP, I want to have lost it in a knockdown drag out fight. It seems to be good to draw peoples attention from the other, smaller ships.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Abyssum Invocat
Yet Another Tax Haven
#4 - 2012-07-09 02:52:40 UTC
Link what you've got so far.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#5 - 2012-07-09 03:47:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
I haven't done a test fit, but with 4 Mids it wouldn't be out of question to maybe fit MWD 2x Large ASB's, scram in the mids then go maybe 3 x Mags in the low with a nanno & DCU. Then fit largest blasters you could squeeze on it. That should give you a pretty high DPS set up with a decent but not awesome tank and still pretty fast fit.

This would let you Gank soft targets pretty easily but Talos is still much better due to the range it can hit at. You could of course also go for typical Armor rep or straight up buffer fits or maybe dual MSE shield fit.
Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#6 - 2012-07-09 05:59:55 UTC
Rapier is the best friend of any blaster boat. As far as the brutix goes you can go with a shield tank and really high dps if you're attempting to go pie, just be aware that you won't have many resists so negotiations on a gate for ransom may not go as smoothly.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2012-07-09 10:17:09 UTC
[Brutix, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 150
Large Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 150

Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Electron Blaster II, Void M

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I


Hammerhead II x5

400dps Tank
850+ dps

No Worries
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2012-07-09 14:04:23 UTC
Abyssum Invocat wrote:
Link what you've got so far.


I will once I figure that out. At the moment since im only doing mission runs the setup is very armor tank light. Weapons: all 250mm med hybrid rails, Med slot: Shield Boost, Thermic Shield, Capacitor Boost, MWD, Low: 2 small armor repairers, inertia stabilizer, overdrive

I know this is a far from ideal setup. Things im working on now are the Armor tank cert and gunnery skills that were in the recommendations.

I see that damage control is a somewhat popular mod to use.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Cameron Cahill
Deaths Consortium
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2012-07-09 17:13:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Cahill
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Abyssum Invocat wrote:
Link what you've got so far.


I will once I figure that out. At the moment since im only doing mission runs the setup is very armor tank light. Weapons: all 250mm med hybrid rails, Med slot: Shield Boost, Thermic Shield, Capacitor Boost, MWD, Low: 2 small armor repairers, inertia stabilizer, overdrive

I know this is a far from ideal setup. Things im working on now are the Armor tank cert and gunnery skills that were in the recommendations.

I see that damage control is a somewhat popular mod to use.


Just a tip pick one kind of tank not both.

for solo/very small gang id say fit a passive armor tank.

Also rails are terrible fit blasters.
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#10 - 2012-07-09 21:14:23 UTC
rail brutix makes me sad, and then very angry. neutrons, two lse's three mag stabs one tracking enhancer and damage control, scram over long point, or try that dual ASB setup, looks interesting.

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Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-10 12:50:28 UTC
Ok, so im now trained to use damage control and tracking enhancers. Ive seen this in a lot of pvp builds.

Next thing I ask is should I not be in low sec solo in a Brutix? I should state my intentions:

Myself and either a couple destroyers, or a destroyer and a frigate go into low sec. Either of the smaller ships lures out a Pirate ransomer (or just a nuisance in general) and engages. While it keeps busy, my Brutix and the other ship engages, warp scrambles and demands ransom.

Pros and cons to this method?

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Fidelium Mortis
Minor Major Miners LLC
#12 - 2012-07-10 13:35:45 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Ok, so im now trained to use damage control and tracking enhancers. Ive seen this in a lot of pvp builds.

Next thing I ask is should I not be in low sec solo in a Brutix? I should state my intentions:

Myself and either a couple destroyers, or a destroyer and a frigate go into low sec. Either of the smaller ships lures out a Pirate ransomer (or just a nuisance in general) and engages. While it keeps busy, my Brutix and the other ship engages, warp scrambles and demands ransom.

Pros and cons to this method?


In low sec, most people would rather go down fighting than pay a ransom especially if they are looking for a fight in the first place. If you web, scram, jam them - you might have a bit more success since it's a pretty annoying situation to be in.

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Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-07-10 13:37:59 UTC
Fidelium Mortis wrote:
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Ok, so im now trained to use damage control and tracking enhancers. Ive seen this in a lot of pvp builds.

Next thing I ask is should I not be in low sec solo in a Brutix? I should state my intentions:

Myself and either a couple destroyers, or a destroyer and a frigate go into low sec. Either of the smaller ships lures out a Pirate ransomer (or just a nuisance in general) and engages. While it keeps busy, my Brutix and the other ship engages, warp scrambles and demands ransom.

Pros and cons to this method?


In low sec, most people would rather go down fighting than pay a ransom especially if they are looking for a fight in the first place. If you web, scram, jam them - you might have a bit more success since it's a pretty annoying situation to be in.



I was under the impression that web scram and jam was the ONLY way to ransom. Otherwise, couldnt the person just escape?

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#14 - 2012-07-10 20:52:03 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
I was under the impression that web scram and jam was the ONLY way to ransom. Otherwise, couldnt the person just escape?


If you scram them they can't run mwd to pull range on you and warp off. But they still can shoot you and/or neut your tackle and warp off when you run out of power and your point drops. You don't need to jam them if they are pointed and neuted. If they still shoot they are projectiles so try get under their guns and/or tank dmg or they have cap booster and you "just" have to keep them long enough for all charges gone. Of course longer it takes the bigger the chance that backup will arrive and **** you up so I personally always prefer to kill them and if I can also pop a pod as fast as I can. It doesn't happen often I admit but v0v, when it happens it feels good.

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Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-07-11 09:16:56 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
You could of course also go for typical Armor rep or straight up buffer fits or maybe dual MSE shield fit.


"LSE"
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#16 - 2012-07-11 09:39:57 UTC
Brutix is not the easiest solo ship, I'd recommend a Myrmidon for solo/very small gang, but Brutix is fun to fly, and will work if your friend(s) have webs.

[Brutix, shield gank]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hammerhead II x5

Needs a cheap PG implant.

I fly with two magstabs and one nano to make it faster, I'd recommend some damage hardwires to go with that.

Have Void and Null in cargo.




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Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-07-11 09:45:32 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Ok, so im now trained to use damage control and tracking enhancers. Ive seen this in a lot of pvp builds.

Next thing I ask is should I not be in low sec solo in a Brutix? I should state my intentions:

Myself and either a couple destroyers, or a destroyer and a frigate go into low sec. Either of the smaller ships lures out a Pirate ransomer (or just a nuisance in general) and engages. While it keeps busy, my Brutix and the other ship engages, warp scrambles and demands ransom.

Pros and cons to this method?


Real small gang dual repper, short point, web, electrons.

It's surprisingly brutal, just avoid artillery canes....and maybe mryms.


That dual ASB fit is intriguing as well.
Lord Arakkis
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-07-11 23:19:36 UTC
Roime wrote:
Brutix is not the easiest solo ship, I'd recommend a Myrmidon for solo/very small gang, but Brutix is fun to fly, and will work if your friend(s) have webs.

[Brutix, shield gank]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hammerhead II x5

Needs a cheap PG implant.

I fly with two magstabs and one nano to make it faster, I'd recommend some damage hardwires to go with that.

Have Void and Null in cargo.






Like the look of this build. Skilling up now for it.

Your still a child in the eyes of the universe
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-07-12 14:40:57 UTC
Lord Arakkis wrote:
Roime wrote:
Brutix is not the easiest solo ship, I'd recommend a Myrmidon for solo/very small gang, but Brutix is fun to fly, and will work if your friend(s) have webs.

[Brutix, shield gank]

Damage Control II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Hammerhead II x5

Needs a cheap PG implant.

I fly with two magstabs and one nano to make it faster, I'd recommend some damage hardwires to go with that.

Have Void and Null in cargo.






Like the look of this build. Skilling up now for it.


Yes, the wannabe cane build.......I haven't tried it since the buff. Dual nano should let you run down a cane. Don't leave home without ec-600s.
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#20 - 2012-07-12 22:57:41 UTC
Some solid fits already posted.

Just to add another flavour, if you're 2v1 or 2v2 or whatever you might consider the dual-repper brutix fit along with repping rigs and exile booster.

It still does decent DPS and you can tank sentries pretty happily for quite a while (unlike a buffer tank). Obviously it has weaknesses such as cap warfare and less insane dps than the neutron shield one, but it can catch a lot of folks out. Good luck.
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