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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#121 - 2012-07-08 21:23:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
And this is why the rest of you always lose. You only think about yourselves. The CFC isn't successful because there's a lot of Goons, but because we're one of the few alliances that builds effective relationships with allies that are not based on taking advantage of them. We don't see our allies as speed bumps in front of our enemies, or as pets or as burdens. They are our friends and we help each other out because of mutual respect and of course mutual self interest. We all benefit by working together instead of abandoning each other the moment someone comes to attack us.

You can whine and moan all you want about us having more money than... everyone but its up to you to come take it. You can't do that by yourself and its hilarious to see you only thinking in terms of yourself.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-07-08 21:31:52 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
They were greatly inferior to BOB and couldn't beat them. That's why they had to basically cheat (even if not violating EULA) by, infiltrating the corp and disassembling from the inside.


People are still mad over this? Using game mechanics isn't cheating.

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Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#123 - 2012-07-08 21:33:41 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
They were greatly inferior to BOB and couldn't beat them. That's why they had to basically cheat (even if not violating EULA) by, infiltrating the corp and disassembling from the inside.


People are still mad over this? Using game mechanics isn't cheating.


That and the fact we didn't infiltrate them. One of their own directors who had infiltrated us defected when he saw how much better life is in Goonswarm.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
#124 - 2012-07-08 21:44:34 UTC
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
Xinivrae wrote:


That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.

Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi.


Just throwing out that my alliance, with less than 100 real people behind the chars, held a dozen Tech moons for about six months.

You would be surprised at even what 50 good pilots can do to a region. I'm not going to fight a war on your terms or in Delve or whatever, ill bring it right to your doorstep and make you life miserable, you numbers or isk won't matter either. thats how you fight superior numbers IMO.

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Generals4
#125 - 2012-07-08 21:46:31 UTC
As a response to the general feeling of helplesness towards CFC: As far as my bad intel goes the CFC blob is merely fighting an other Blob so why don't the two other big blobs join if CFC is that strong, evil and what not? If they manage to fight that off than yes maybe something is wrong. But until than all i see is a failure at caring enough to do efforts.

_-Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. _
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#126 - 2012-07-08 21:48:21 UTC
Xpaulusx wrote:
Mfume Apocal wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
Xinivrae wrote:


That right there, that "it's impossible, don't bother to try" mentality is what's keeping you down.

Riiiight, cause my 250 man alliance stands a real good chance in a war for assets against the tens of thousnads of members of the CFC. Every time one of your gangs comes through we destroy it (in admittedly usually good fights), but I am not delusional enough to think we could even make a stand in a real war. You out number us 100 to 1, an some of us don't enjoy playing in TiDi.


Just throwing out that my alliance, with less than 100 real people behind the chars, held a dozen Tech moons for about six months.

You would be surprised at even what 50 good pilots can do to a region. I'm not going to fight a war on your terms or in Delve or whatever, ill bring it right to your doorstep and make you life miserable, you numbers or isk won't matter either. thats how you fight superior numbers IMO.


Heh, you think goonswarm doesn't have good pilots.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#127 - 2012-07-08 21:50:06 UTC
Generals4 wrote:
As a response to the general feeling of helplesness towards CFC: As far as my bad intel goes the CFC blob is merely fighting an other Blob so why don't the two other big blobs join if CFC is that strong, evil and what not? If they manage to fight that off than yes maybe something is wrong. But until than all i see is a failure at caring enough to do efforts.

Because the only people who are really that bothered about goons are high sec care bears.

And they don't have a blob, because they aren't social enough to form fleets or large alliances/corporations.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#128 - 2012-07-08 21:52:01 UTC
For everyone here saying that CFC fought hard for their tech, you are speaking out their arse, only reason CFC holds tech is because they blued anyone who could threaten their monopolic position, Goons could easily beat Test in a straight up war and Test could certainly trump FA, only reason they still hold their tech moons is because they are too cowardly to fight anyone and would rather form a rofl-stomping coalition.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#129 - 2012-07-08 21:52:02 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:


Heh, you think goonswarm doesn't have good pilots.


We don't. Every one of our successes has been an accident. Someone else on this forum described us an entropic collective, which I think is pretty accurate. If it wasn't for PL holding our hands in this war we would have failed days ago.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2012-07-08 21:52:58 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
For everyone here saying that CFC fought hard for their tech, you are speaking out their arse, only reason CFC holds tech is because they blued anyone who could threaten their monopolic position, Goons could easily beat Test in a straight up war and Test could certainly trump FA, only reason they still hold their tech moons is because they are too cowardly to fight anyone and would rather form a rofl-stomping coalition.


Why are people always so upset that we have friends?

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Dave stark
#131 - 2012-07-08 21:53:16 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
For everyone here saying that CFC fought hard for their tech, you are speaking out their arse, only reason CFC holds tech is because they blued anyone who could threaten their monopolic position, Goons could easily beat Test in a straight up war and Test could certainly trump FA, only reason they still hold their tech moons is because they are too cowardly to fight anyone and would rather form a rofl-stomping coalition.


why waste the isk having a war when you can blue up and make a monopoly?
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#132 - 2012-07-08 21:54:45 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Charles Baker wrote:
For everyone here saying that CFC fought hard for their tech, you are speaking out their arse, only reason CFC holds tech is because they blued anyone who could threaten their monopolic position, Goons could easily beat Test in a straight up war and Test could certainly trump FA, only reason they still hold their tech moons is because they are too cowardly to fight anyone and would rather form a rofl-stomping coalition.


why waste the isk having a war when you can blue up and make a monopoly?


You don't even have to be blue to do that, see O-Tech.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#133 - 2012-07-08 21:55:09 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
Charles Baker wrote:
For everyone here saying that CFC fought hard for their tech, you are speaking out their arse, only reason CFC holds tech is because they blued anyone who could threaten their monopolic position, Goons could easily beat Test in a straight up war and Test could certainly trump FA, only reason they still hold their tech moons is because they are too cowardly to fight anyone and would rather form a rofl-stomping coalition.


why waste the isk having a war when you can blue up and make a monopoly?


Because it's no fun, speaking as a former FA pilot all we did was drop 200 man Hurricane gangs onto towers which didn't shoot back, well barring 2 or 3 stealthbombers.

and no i'm not mad that you have friends, i'm just mad that 'friends' seem to coincide with all major tech holders.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#134 - 2012-07-08 21:55:39 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
For everyone here saying that CFC fought hard for their tech, you are speaking out their arse, only reason CFC holds tech is because they blued anyone who could threaten their monopolic position, Goons could easily beat Test in a straight up war and Test could certainly trump FA, only reason they still hold their tech moons is because they are too cowardly to fight anyone and would rather form a rofl-stomping coalition.

Weren't goons pretty small fry a few years back? Then they beat some guys called bob or something?

Nah, must have imagined it. I'm sure goons were formed straight away with over 9,000 members and technetium spewing out of every orifice.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#135 - 2012-07-08 21:56:47 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:

and no i'm not mad that you have friends, i'm just mad that 'friends' seem to coincide with all major tech holders.


Yeah that whole mutual self-interest thing.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Dave stark
#136 - 2012-07-08 21:56:56 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
Charles Baker wrote:
For everyone here saying that CFC fought hard for their tech, you are speaking out their arse, only reason CFC holds tech is because they blued anyone who could threaten their monopolic position, Goons could easily beat Test in a straight up war and Test could certainly trump FA, only reason they still hold their tech moons is because they are too cowardly to fight anyone and would rather form a rofl-stomping coalition.


why waste the isk having a war when you can blue up and make a monopoly?


You don't even have to be blue to do that, see O-Tech.


but blue is my favourite colour.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#137 - 2012-07-08 21:58:34 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:

Weren't goons pretty small fry a few years back? Then they beat some guys called bob or something?


Pubbies will never accept the fact that we beat BoB. It will always be infiltration, or accident or yada yada...

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Angst IronShard
#138 - 2012-07-08 21:58:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Angst IronShard
When all 0.0 will be in the hands of Goons, well, I wonder what will be the point to play at EvE :/

The sov system is a failure as many others game's mechanics.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#139 - 2012-07-08 22:00:02 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
They were greatly inferior to BOB and couldn't beat them. That's why they had to basically cheat (even if not violating EULA) by, infiltrating the corp and disassembling from the inside.


People are still mad over this? Using game mechanics isn't cheating.


That and the fact we didn't infiltrate them. One of their own directors who had infiltrated us defected when he saw how much better life is in Goonswarm.


If memory serves correctly, BoB was already dead before this happened. It was a cremation of a neglected corpse that had been rotting for several months.

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Ping Pang Pong
Doomheim
#140 - 2012-07-08 22:04:24 UTC
Xython wrote:
Spurty wrote:

Not sure why everyone wants to fight over null sec ... People camping Jita undock / gates are ahead of the curve with regards to effort / risk / reward

Holding tech doesn't affect them. Only concern they have is that Jita doesn't get it's trillions of ISK brought in / out every few hours


Sure, if by effort and risk/reward you mean sitting there like a lump, waiting for people to be vulnerable while their client freezes and blanks out during undock, so you can kill them without any chance of them fighting back. "Leet Highsec PVP" I guess, but it doesn't hold a candle to anything in Nullsec.




And how is this any different than what DoucheSwarm and their pets are doing to SoCo right now? All I have seen from Goons and their pets is bitching and moaning that they can't get SoCo to undock and fight. Why would they undock when as soon as they do you cyno in a fleet that is 5-6x the size of theirs?


As I have stated in other threads the Goons and their pets are utterly pathetic at PvP, and will run at the first sign of a fair fight. By fair fight I mean an incoming fleet that is half their size or more. You have been taking massive losses whenever you do actually decide to engage in a fight, and that only happens when SoCo chases a fleet halfway around the universe.

The most fighting I see out of Goons and their pets is forum warrioring. Is it some kind of rule that whenever the goons are mentioned in a thread that you all dog pile your asshattery into them?