EVE General Discussion

Do you even read the posts that are not unfounded butthurt accusations from people who don't know to gamble or stop when they are losings like this one?

Learn the defnition of win ratio as obviously neither you or the poster know what it means. Once you learn it, it will make perfect sense.

read this post, it addresses exactly what you tried to ask: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1589300#post1589300

I am not the six asterisks of that site, I am just a regular player who wins and loses and knows when to quit when it is not going my way. Have you been watching me play tonight? I would be having a night like the one the poster said she had, but I don't try to play thru a losing streak, I walk away.

Have you ever heard of the Theory of Probability? Have you studied it? Do you know there is chance involved in gambling?

Post 10,000 more just like this one - there must be at least that many more people out there who don't know when to stop and/or the basics of gambling. Go pester the GMs to step in - I'm done with your half baked anecdotal posts. And please never gamble anywhere, not even a state lottery or a football pool or you will make a big fool out of yourself claiming that because some people know how and when to gamble and win more than those who don't - it's gotta be rigged.

What is your motivation in this? You are obviously somone's alt. Three posts on the forums in three years, 2 here and one on the really brainy forum about rating the looks of the avatar above you. Why are you so interested in this whole thing anyway. You are not the only one who can ask questions but I doubt there will be any credible answers to the ones I've asked you.

Maybe you are the "brainy" one in your chapter of the Tinfoil Belief Society. Isn't there a UFO following you around right now that is more important than you asking ridiculous questions about things you don't understand?

Really, you have worn me down - claim victory and do a dance or something on your keyboard. This is the last you are getting out of me until you buy CCP or pester them into asking me questions. You are the supreme Troll, I nominate you for the world's championship of trolling.

I wish you good fortune and good luck in life.

Goodbye

Tried it... Won an Apocalyspe and two Brutix BCs... Spent 348mil, which is more than the combined value of the ships. Was fun, though. The big items almost seemed to autofill. I only got a ticket when I started them, and then, I could only get one.

Wow. I took a look at take in to payout and came up with the same number.

I only have 2 years of college, but I only had to use jr. high math to figure that out.

My kid is 13. I am going to show him somerblinks website and ask him to do the same math today. I bet he comes up with the same answer.

Troll troll troll troll troll troll troll

You really are pretty stupid aren't you?

Taken home means "Won prizes to the value of". Whether or not the player has cashed out or exchanged for blink credit is their decision.




Another thicket. Just because he has won items to the value of 3,842,664,001,750 paid out does not mean he actually cashed out and exchanged them for isk and then ended up with that isk in his wallet. The way he managed to accrue this amount was by exchanging prizes for blink credit or cycling the isk, in other words for the obviously less intelligent ones, exchanging a prize for isk then transferring that isk straight back to blink. Try actually learning how blink works before thinking you know how it does.

*sigh* You really need a better argument

How many times must this simple question be answered? Maybe that depends on how many alts you have.

Have you ever seen an advertisement for any real life casino which says somethng like." Over a Gazillion quarters have been won in our slot mchines!"

Do you think over a gazillion quarters have been taken home?

To be precise, Blink can be played on their server without going thru eve at all and it seems that most players are playing from their RL home, therefore, the instant the prize is won it exists in pixels on the player's monitor. Thus the player has that prize at home until the player decides what they want to do with the prize. So in that light, I would call the statement as being correct. Of course some players may be playing from a WiFi cafe or sitting on a street corner using someone else's un-passworded WiFi connection and in those cases, I would call Blink on being incorrect on the "taken home" part. Maybe "taken possession" would satisfy the Supreme Court.

But you are not the Supreme Court, are you? You are just someone who wants to knit pick and troll.

Have you ever heard of site called Evelabogus? Or something like that. Just go to any chat and wait a few minutes and you will find a post from their army of players hoping to get some credit in their account by blanketting New Eden with spam posts. Blink will not allow their players to advertise Blinkt, even th Blink does offer a credit for anyone a player recruits by talking one on one or perhaps a player might choose to post their "promo code" in their bio. I've never gotten a promo code, so you won't find one on me. Oh, maybe you are from Evelabogus and are hoping a little bad press about Blink along with constant eve wide spamming will perk up your site until it is worth folding.

Perhaps the statement would satisfy the short sighted if it was something like, " Our players have won over xxx in ISK and prizes." and just leave it at that. Blink really has no control over whether the players decide to keep a prize or convert it back into blink credit.

Blink offers players the opportunity to accept isk, at a value usually higher than the market value of the prize, in exchange for the prizes won in blinks. Players may decide to redeem the prize for blink credit and receive a 5% bonus, or the player may choose to accept the prize and in the case of many prizes, may designate the high sec station to which the player would like the prize delivered at no charge.

If you took the time to read their rules posted prominently on their site, you would know this.

You know, you can keep changing alts but that will never make the stupid statements and wilda$$ accusations sound any smarter until you find an alt with more brains than you. You also need to get some new "ranter alts" as this squad is showing up together too often on other forums.

You have to know a little something about what you are ranting against to make sense. But then if you actually understood it, you would have nothing to rant about.

He "won" 100% of what he paid into a system that only pays 5.4:8.

For every 8 isk taken in, 5.4 is "paid out". For every ISK he is paying, he is taking 1. He should be taking .675 ISK per Isk he is paying.

Again, amazing luck or a shill. If you don't think its amazing luck try it yourself.

You are trolling because as we all know this isn't a real casino. As far as blink is concerned whatever people win they "take home". Blink cannot predict that those people are going to cash out, or recycle their isk so it all gets added to the same figure.

Incorrect, the site does not add a figure won to it's total "isk taken home" and then take it back off that figure if the player decides to exchange his prize for blink credit. If you refresh the blink page often enough you will notice that as soon as a blink is won that "Total isk won" amount goes up by the value of that blink that just ended. As far as the website stats go, the player has won that isk. Also look at how long blink has been running, nearly 2 years? Blinks running every day all day for 2 years and you are amazed that 250T isk has been won?

You are playing on the words "Players have taken home". Players have won that much isk and then decided for themselves whether they have "taken it home" or not, that is not something blink can predict.

You are arguing over how blink has worded its total isk won, so maybe if it said "Total isk won by players" it would be better?

I tried somer through this thread.

Started with 29 mil and ended up with a tempest and a megathron.

I eventually sold them because the feeling of bidding on other stuff was too great, but u win some u lose some.

still turned a profit from when i started.

sitting on around 100 mil now or so. better than 29 when i started.

Ok I am going to try and explain it one more time.

If replacement 234 buys 12 tickets on a rorq (something he often did) he would pay 12 x 224,500,000 isk = 2,694,000,000 isk
If he wins said rorq he currently gets 3,214,800,000 isk.

Ok this is where your figures gain some inaccuracies.

If replacement 234 exchanges that prize for blink credit (which he very often does) he then gets an extra 5% on top of the winning amount, so 3,375,540,000 isk. Hence he now has 3,375,540,000 isk blink credit. Rinse and repeat this cycle 5 times, as it is entirely possible he would win 5 rorqs 5 times in a row buying 12 out of 16 tickets.

His winnings would say 16,074,000,000 isk but he actually only deposited an initial deposit of 2.694,000,000 isk OF HIS OWN ISK.

This is how blink credit and recycling works, just because he played so many thousand blinks does not mean he paid raw isk for them, just recycled blink credit. It is very common for blink players stats to say they have won more than they deposited because blink does not include prizes exchanged for blink credit into the isk deposited figure.

I cannot explain it any clearer, the only thing that has come about this whole post is that blink maybe should word the total figure won better. Everything else is guessed and inaccurate.