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Why CFC Will Lose The War

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KrakizBad
Section 8.
#121 - 2012-07-08 18:25:12 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Ever time I've undocked for the last two weeks we have fought superior numbers and taken a notch out.

According to KB's you've undocked 3 times in the last 3 weeks. Cool
Bolow Santosi
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#122 - 2012-07-08 18:25:35 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Bolow Santosi wrote:
Onictus wrote:
KrakizBad wrote:
So? Who cares about ships.



Who care about SOV?


When you don't have a tech ****, sov doesn't mean that much.



I guess all those renters you keep around are there because you're such a nice and benevolent alliance and not because of the desire to make money.



When you don't have moon goo, yeah, mofos got to make a penny.

An R64 moon is what 2-3bil a month what is a tech moon? Oh, and they are all in the North, farthest south tech moon I have ever heard of was in the drones.



It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.
Pipa Porto
#123 - 2012-07-08 18:29:33 UTC
Bolow Santosi wrote:

It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.


SoCo will always rent space in EastAsia

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#124 - 2012-07-08 18:32:51 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Bolow Santosi wrote:

It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.


SoCo will always rent space in EastAsia


Not that it's ever likely to happen, i am going to **** myself whilist eating a 10 year old pizza and do the joker smile for 24h the day -A- has to rent space from us because they aint got ****.

This could be fun.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#125 - 2012-07-08 18:32:52 UTC
Bolow Santosi wrote:


It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.


I will rat in the shade then.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#126 - 2012-07-08 18:33:34 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Bolow Santosi wrote:


It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.


I will rat in the shade then.


Have fun in highsec! Lol
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2012-07-08 18:34:45 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Bolow Santosi wrote:


It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.


I will rat in the shade then.


Have fun in highsec! Lol



No need.
Pipa Porto
#128 - 2012-07-08 18:56:08 UTC
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Bolow Santosi wrote:

It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.


SoCo will always rent space in EastAsia


Not that it's ever likely to happen, i am going to **** myself whilist eating a 10 year old pizza and do the joker smile for 24h the day -A- has to rent space from us because they aint got ****.


Please join the rest of literate society and read Nineteen Eighty-Four.

This has been a public service announcement from MiniLuv.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#129 - 2012-07-08 18:59:09 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Cpt Roghie wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Bolow Santosi wrote:

It's hard to rent space when you don't own any space. Hence you do care about Sov.


SoCo will always rent space in EastAsia


Not that it's ever likely to happen, i am going to **** myself whilist eating a 10 year old pizza and do the joker smile for 24h the day -A- has to rent space from us because they aint got ****.


Please join the rest of literate society and read Nineteen Eighty-Four.

This has been a public service announcement from MiniLuv.


Good book.

Quote:

[18:57:25] Sahjahn > 10:1, 1000 backup, 500 supers. Well i'm glad we're not over-exagerating in here


LOL holy ****.
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#130 - 2012-07-08 19:32:49 UTC
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#131 - 2012-07-08 19:37:29 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.


We had a station egg sitting around, we took the sov in that system, anchored the egg, fertilized it, and then at DT it hatched just like it would anywhere else. As for stocking it, that only happened because people actually built things to sell there. How is that a bad thing?

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Pipa Porto
#132 - 2012-07-08 19:48:04 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.


They could probably have done everything but launching the egg using nothing but Itty Vs (or BLOPs/Viators) and Psychotherapists.

The GSF is good at logistics. The fact that they are good at logistics is not something you can stop by making game design changes without horribly breaking everything.


The power projection that's problematic is a different beast.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
SetrakDark
Doomheim
#133 - 2012-07-08 20:01:44 UTC
That's not "power projection".

You can make up whatever definitions you want for anything, it doesn't mean other people have to acknowledge your intellectual butchery of a subject.

I'm going to call deploying an outpost in a hostile region "ice cream". Now my argument is that marlona sky doesn;t like ice cream. What kind of inhuman beast doesn't like ice cream?

TL;DR you are chronically incorrect about almost everything and you desperately need to stop posting.
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#134 - 2012-07-08 20:18:13 UTC
Look at all these people arguing against what I say no matter what it is. The very definition of ultimate butt hurt.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#135 - 2012-07-08 20:20:35 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.


Do you have any idea how much work is required to drop an outpost and stock it to "Jita levels?"

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Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#136 - 2012-07-08 20:25:40 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.


Do you have any idea how much work is required to drop an outpost and stock it to "Jita levels?"

Reading is hard.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#137 - 2012-07-08 20:29:31 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.


Do you have any idea how much work is required to drop an outpost and stock it to "Jita levels?"

Reading is hard.


"Power projection is too easy, look at Goonswarm they only had to spend hundreds of man hours getting an outpost in place and getting it stocked to the level of a small market hub!"

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Marconus Orion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#138 - 2012-07-08 20:51:33 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.


Do you have any idea how much work is required to drop an outpost and stock it to "Jita levels?"

Reading is hard.


"Power projection is too easy, look at Goonswarm they only had to spend hundreds of man hours getting an outpost in place and getting it stocked to the level of a small market hub!"

Oh so now it is a small market hub? Pretty sure you guys said Jita level market. Which one is it? Hundreds of man hours you say? Divided between how many logistic guys?

Your alliance is massive and your coalition is the largest one to date. You like to talk about how easy setting it up was, then say how hard it was. Forgive us high sec pubbies if we become confused on you flip flopping back and forth on a subject. Straight
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#139 - 2012-07-08 21:06:28 UTC
Marconus Orion wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
Marconus Orion wrote:
Obviously everyone has a different perspective on power projection. I see some things like building a station over night directly on the front door of the enemy and stocking it to Jita levels in a couple days as power projection.

I will admit that does require a ton of logistics, which is impressive in itself. I just feel that having the same luxuries of your own base in a completely different region, right on the front lines, is too much.

Capital ships is another form of power projection, but that is a monster all on its own. You guys can flame all you want, but please provide some solid evidence that anchoring a station on the front line and filling it with a Jita like market in a couple days is not power projection.


Do you have any idea how much work is required to drop an outpost and stock it to "Jita levels?"

Reading is hard.


"Power projection is too easy, look at Goonswarm they only had to spend hundreds of man hours getting an outpost in place and getting it stocked to the level of a small market hub!"

Oh so now it is a small market hub? Pretty sure you guys said Jita level market. Which one is it? Hundreds of man hours you say? Divided between how many logistic guys?

Your alliance is massive and your coalition is the largest one to date. You like to talk about how easy setting it up was, then say how hard it was. Forgive us high sec pubbies if we become confused on you flip flopping back and forth on a subject. Straight


the one smugging about how easy it was aren't the ones who actually do logistics hth

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#140 - 2012-07-08 21:10:32 UTC
Suddenly Forums ForumKings wrote:
It is in the best interest of SoCo to avoid fights with CFC until they get bored and scuttle back to the north.


"They will lose if we refuse to fight"

Of course. That makes perfect sense.

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