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Why can't SoCo form large fleets?
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drdxie
#21 - 2012-07-06 23:08:52 UTC
SoCo can't beat CFC and CCP at the same time..

In the last 2 days SoCo have had some successful campaigns against CFC despite larger numbers, CCP immediately reacted and nerfed bomb's. Try launching more than 3 at the same time.... I am sure it was an accident, but by the time it is fixed, SoCo would have lost space.



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Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2012-07-06 23:16:16 UTC
drdxie wrote:
SoCo can't beat CFC and CCP at the same time..

We finally got our Bat-phone fixed after that little FW incident.
Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#23 - 2012-07-07 01:31:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Metal Icarus
Frederick Sanger wrote:
drdxie wrote:
SoCo can't beat CFC and CCP at the same time..

We finally got our Bat-phone fixed after that little FW incident.


Something related to your new recruitment video I am sure.

EDIT: I'd link it, but I have dignity and will not post smut on the forums.
drdxie
#24 - 2012-07-07 07:42:03 UTC
Xayder wrote:
They CAN form a large fleet and they CAN fight us
But the problem is, they dont undock
So we cannot see these large fleets


I think we all know that SoCo can't field as large a fleets as CFC. And we will undock if you leave the capitals at home. Whenever CFC is engaged and their numbers are not at least 3 times, they run or cycno in support.
Our tornado fleet had to chase your drake fleet to get a fight today... must have left your cycno's in the hangar...

https://a-killed.me/?a=kill_related&kll_id=747942

So stop with the fair fights bull, as said above, its about SOV and chest beating.

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Galizur Zageban
Doomheim
#25 - 2012-07-07 08:19:44 UTC
Sordeo Regius wrote:
Looking at dotlan, the SoCo has thousands of members in their coalition like the CFC. Why can't they field a fleets of matching sizes? They cry blob every time they lose, but clearly they have numbers to match the sizes of our fleets.

Is the real foul that our members being more willing to form up and lose ships than yours?

Grow a pair....just saying



Beacause the don't have numbers like goons and co, and arent a unified coalitions like the north. And you attacked the beacause of that, so that they won't beacome unified because it would pose a threat as you dear leader said.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-07-07 08:46:04 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
It's July. Most of their members are likely kicking it poolside or vacationing at some tropical destination. So a bunch of no life neckbeard asspie losers decided to do some chestbeating on the forums over the empty space in Delve. Why should anyone care again?



Nah we are out here laying pipe.

Fact is they have at least 4 times the numbers we do and a far superior super cap force. So are we going to line and up and get farmed by 70 supers with twice that in carriers and blap dreads.....

......and two or three FULL fleets of drakes and maels?

No, we can't meet that head on. We never could.
That isn't a secret, its not even news.

So for all of the wining about us not undocking, there are fleets rolling 23/7. A lot of us are having a ball out here.
Ping Pang Pong
Doomheim
#27 - 2012-07-07 09:48:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Ping Pang Pong
Sordeo Regius wrote:
Looking at dotlan, the SoCo has thousands of members in their coalition like the CFC. Why can't they field a fleets of matching sizes? They cry blob every time they lose, but clearly they have numbers to match the sizes of our fleets.

Is the real foul that our members being more willing to form up and lose ships than yours?

Grow a pair....just saying





Because if they formed fleets that matched your size you guys would run away like the cowards you are? Everyone knows the Goons and their pets will run at the first sign of a fair fight.



Also, maybe CCP will finally step in and start to rebalance moon mining to where the Goons and their pets weren't given the large majority of tec moons in their space. I believe that is the sole reason that they can win just about any war. It isn't that they are better tacticians or better at fighting wars, because we all know they are horrid without excessively large numerical advantages. No, the reason they can win is they have the ability to immediately replace entire fleets of super caps because of the absolutely ridiculous amount of isk they pull from tec moons (something to the tune of 9-15 BILLION a month per moon). Sadly though, there will be no instant effect if moons were rebalanced as Goons and their pets have been padding their wallets for years while ccp pays no attention to the underlying consequences, either from sheer ignorance, or blatant nepotism.
Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2012-07-07 14:47:06 UTC
Ping Pang Pong wrote:

Because if they formed fleets that matched your size you guys would run away like the cowards you are? Everyone knows the Goons and their pets will run at the first sign of a fair fight.

Argumentum ad populum
ThePalp
Dominion Industrial Group
#29 - 2012-07-07 16:58:56 UTC
drdxie wrote:
SoCo can't beat CFC and CCP at the same time..

In the last 2 days SoCo have had some successful campaigns against CFC despite larger numbers, CCP immediately reacted and nerfed bomb's. Try launching more than 3 at the same time.... I am sure it was an accident, but by the time it is fixed, SoCo would have lost space.





So what your saying is that SoCo can only have success when bombs were horrendously broken and not doing any damage to one another?? yea sounds like -A- to me
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2012-07-07 17:07:20 UTC
Nope. We'll bleed you.till you.**** off though.
Suddenly Forums ForumKings
Doomheim
#31 - 2012-07-07 20:18:49 UTC
Solo pvp is dead.
Arkon Olacar
black.listed
#32 - 2012-07-08 15:04:42 UTC
It doesn't help that the major SoCo members give no fecks about the rest of the SoCo - "We don't need allies" (brilliant diplomacy there Makalu), the Red Alliance dude announcing that RA guys joining in SoCo fleets was not appreciated, this sort of crap. Maybe if the SoCo actually started acting like a coalition, then they might hurt us slightly. Getting some competant FCs would also help, mind you, even our newbro FCs can keep Makalu docked up.
Frederick Sanger
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-07-08 15:46:35 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Nope. We'll bleed you.till you.**** off though.

Better pack a lunch, sunshine. It could be awhile.
Ping Pang Pong
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-07-08 16:16:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Ping Pang Pong
ThePalp wrote:
drdxie wrote:
SoCo can't beat CFC and CCP at the same time..

In the last 2 days SoCo have had some successful campaigns against CFC despite larger numbers, CCP immediately reacted and nerfed bomb's. Try launching more than 3 at the same time.... I am sure it was an accident, but by the time it is fixed, SoCo would have lost space.





So what your saying is that SoCo can only have success when bombs were horrendously broken and not doing any damage to one another?? yea sounds like -A- to me




It amuses me that whenever something goes bad for the Goons CCP steps in and immediately changes mechanics that have been in place almost since the beginning of Eve.

Mutual War dec changes immediately after they got dog piled, even though they had done a dog pile themselves a few weeks prior. Now we have the removal of one of the most entertaining and effective forms of warfare.... I will miss bomber runs.

GG.
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#35 - 2012-07-08 16:38:00 UTC
Frederick Sanger wrote:
Onictus wrote:
Nope. We'll bleed you.till you.**** off though.

Better pack a lunch, sunshine. It could be awhile.



Tis all good, sounds just like last year, and the year before that and the year before that.


Where did all of the Goon whines about supers go? Now that you have a big as super fleet? Curious? No?
drdxie
#36 - 2012-07-08 23:15:52 UTC
Arkon Olacar wrote:
It doesn't help that the major SoCo members give no fecks about the rest of the SoCo - "We don't need allies" (brilliant diplomacy there Makalu), the Red Alliance dude announcing that RA guys joining in SoCo fleets was not appreciated, this sort of crap. Maybe if the SoCo actually started acting like a coalition, then they might hurt us slightly. Getting some competant FCs would also help, mind you, even our newbro FCs can keep Makalu docked up.


I see IG have reached their dream of becoming goon pets.. Ganking incursion runners in the name of benefiting all eve players has worked out well for you guys... Oh wait, what your directors do with their alts is not sanctioned\approved by IG leaders Roll
You belong with you masters.... Now do as your told and go sit in 319 and spam local with c**p. Big smile



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Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-07-09 13:13:45 UTC
Mrr Woodcock wrote:
In my opinion, the total disappointment is PL. I would bet 1000 Dollars if you could get Sheedo, and Grath alone in private they too would express the disappointment in there once great organization


Grath would just call you a :offensivewordforblackskinnedperson:

And who the hell is Sheedo?

No sig.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#38 - 2012-07-10 09:08:58 UTC
Bombs were bugged. Perhaps some of you hadn't heard the news. Proof.

CCP "fixed" it a day or so ago by removing bomb resists entirely. gg CCP

Yesterday CCP fixed it for real. Bombs are apparently working as intended now.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Ki're Suahien
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-07-10 15:26:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ki're Suahien
edit: nevermind. Suffering from, "Someone is WRONG on the internet syndrome".
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