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MinefieldS
1 Sick Duck Standss on something
#41 - 2012-07-08 03:15:38 UTC
Obviously it's winter in Australia so they're all throwing snowballs at each other, knitting socks for kangaroos and speed skating around New Zealand.
Tao Arnst
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-07-08 03:47:59 UTC
SIMPLE...

Inferno expansion is S**T! and the destruction of a USABLE inventory system...

Some morons might not admit it, but it's true and the facts speak for themselves....

ccp has given up on the EvE client and have other motives.....

Was the Title "Inferno" given to this release because its a Steaming Pile of S**t? Most people embrace GOOD change Parasites embrace BAD change ccp supports the degradation of society

Sierra Skyy
Mining Missioning And Cargo Security Services
#43 - 2012-07-08 04:49:39 UTC
Sorry if I missed it in the thread somewhere, but where can this data be found?

Frying Doom
#44 - 2012-07-08 04:54:23 UTC
MinefieldS wrote:
Obviously it's winter in Australia so they're all throwing snowballs at each other, knitting socks for kangaroos and speed skating around New Zealand.

I see you don't know much about Australia, Hell I have never seen snow. There is not that much difference between an Australian winter and an English summer in most of the country, except it rains less often in Australia.
As to the Kangaroos they prefer sweaters.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!

Rosewalker
Khumaak Flying Circus
#45 - 2012-07-08 05:11:06 UTC
Sierra Skyy wrote:
Sorry if I missed it in the thread somewhere, but where can this data be found?



The subscription numbers can be found at MMOData.net. Although this article at MMOData indicates the highest number of subs was 370,000.

For PCU numbers, you can go to Chribba's website, Eve-Offline.net.

The Nosy Gamer - CCP Random: "hehe, falls under the category: nice try, but no. ;)"

Sierra Skyy
Mining Missioning And Cargo Security Services
#46 - 2012-07-08 05:17:45 UTC
Thanks Rosewalker!

It's nice to ask a direct question and get a direct answer. Big smile

YUMAD BRO
ZZ Cow
#47 - 2012-07-08 05:25:12 UTC
CCP is killing EVE...Making it into another Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
The new expansion is horrible, people are leaving in droves.

They have put limits on talking about them and confronting them now on the forums, they are banning people for doing things that has been a part of this game for years that THEY pushed, they are catering to all the new people coming in from games like WoW and such and do not give a rats ass about there TRUE base of players.

I for one am out of here as soon as Planetside 2 comes out, me and my 7 accounts along with 20-40 people that I know with at least 3-5 accounts each.

Game is dying a very slow painful death.... bye bye CCP, hope your new game works for you, but, with planetside 2 coming out I sense a total flop hahahahaha
Ruareve
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-07-08 08:59:36 UTC
I think summer has some influence on the numbers, it happens to most games.

That said I also think recent events in Eve have caused many people to reconsider playing.

This years hulkageddon was a problem but I think it brought to light the vulnerability/frustration of people that prefer not to PVP. The ward dec changes also contributed to ill feelings from high sec dwellers. High sec isn't a lot more dangerous than it used to be but now people feel more vulnerable.

Add to the vulnerability the manipulation of ice, mining, and tech and null metagaming has reached high sec to an annoying degree. When a large portion of your playerbase is in high sec and as this home area feels less like home there isn't much reason to keep playing.

Toss on top of all of that the increase in prices across the board due to manipulations and changes to mineral harvesting and more people become frustrated. The increase in prices seems to have also driven up the value of plex which cuts down on subscriptions.

Next add in the frustrations with the UI changes, the seeming conspiracy behind the war dec system and the nerf to incursions.

Put all of that together and there are a lot of people in high sec that have been affected in a negative way in some shape, form, or fashion.

Then remove a lot of faith or hope that the game will get better because CCP seem to care more about the null player base and less about the high sec group. This can be seen in the drastic changes to incursions, the continuation of tech bottleneck, continuation of mining vulnerability, continuation of price inflation, continuation of war dec changes, comments from devs in favor of continued null metagaming/manipulations, lack of significant consequences for exploitation, and finally no communication regarding the future of high sec and you have a very unhappy portion of the population. A significant portion of the population in fact.

While many on the forums will respond that the game is supposed to be about PVP and null sec, there can be no doubt when you look at the population density where the player base prefers to spend their time.

If CCP continues on a course of ignoring the population base to continue with a theme of PVP for all then the only outcome will be a reduction in overall subscriptions. Eventually the tide will stem and the game will continue with a lower population, which is what some players want. I just wish the hardcore attitude could be toned down and the devs realize the game is big enough to support both PVE and PVP play without having to force people to accept PVP could happen at anytime based on someone else's whims.

Yet another blog about Eve- http://ruar-eve.blogspot.com/

Aineko Macx
#49 - 2012-07-08 09:24:39 UTC
Hatsuki Takami
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#50 - 2012-07-08 09:27:15 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
plus the fact that Eve Online has turned into Griefer Online.

For many ppl i know... This.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#51 - 2012-07-08 09:28:59 UTC
Ruareve wrote:


If CCP continues on a course of ignoring the population base to continue with a theme of PVP for all then the only outcome will be a reduction in overall subscriptions. Eventually the tide will stem and the game will continue with a lower population, which is what some players want. I just wish the hardcore attitude could be toned down and the devs realize the game is big enough to support both PVE and PVP play without having to force people to accept PVP could happen at anytime based on someone else's whims.


In the last year CCP have fixed Gal ships, blasters/rails, improved many tools, fixed the mad inflation, fixed the overpowered supers added severalnew usefullmods and are in the process of a total rebalance of all ships starting with frigates and barges. There more but thats just off the top of my head.

I want CCP to continue on with its current course.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#52 - 2012-07-08 09:30:15 UTC
Hatsuki Takami wrote:
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
plus the fact that Eve Online has turned into Griefer Online.

For many ppl i know... This.


It was like this 9 years ago, only more brutal.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#53 - 2012-07-08 09:38:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Aineko Macx wrote:
That's because you're looking at a number of overlaid noisy signals where the actual data points are swallowed up by multiple layers of of irrelevancies.

Extract the data and filter out everything except PCUs. Also, separate the days from each other since there is a weekly pattern that creates noise on top of the 24h-cycle noise.

DeMichael Crimson wrote:
plus the fact that Eve Online has turned into Griefer Online.
EVE is made more and more griefer-unfriendly for every patch that goes by.
Hatsuki Takami
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#54 - 2012-07-08 09:39:48 UTC
Im not saying that is problem for me, but for many hi-sec player... It is really problem. Hulkagedon for example was funny event... Now we have hulkagedon all te time so its more anoying, than entertaining (my Mining friend liked hulkagedon... Even when it was hitting him personaly, but nowe just Left game).
Ruareve
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#55 - 2012-07-08 09:47:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Ruareve wrote:


If CCP continues on a course of ignoring the population base to continue with a theme of PVP for all then the only outcome will be a reduction in overall subscriptions. Eventually the tide will stem and the game will continue with a lower population, which is what some players want. I just wish the hardcore attitude could be toned down and the devs realize the game is big enough to support both PVE and PVP play without having to force people to accept PVP could happen at anytime based on someone else's whims.


In the last year CCP have fixed Gal ships, blasters/rails, improved many tools, fixed the mad inflation, fixed the overpowered supers added severalnew usefullmods and are in the process of a total rebalance of all ships starting with frigates and barges. There more but thats just off the top of my head.

I want CCP to continue on with its current course.



I agree that these are great additions/changes to the game but they are honestly nothing more than regular updates that almost all other MMO's make on a monthly or quarterly basis. Balance, adjustments, and additional gear are things that should happen constantly and not only after a failed expansion.

The problem though is no matter how well balanced hybrids are compared to projectiles if the players don't want to log in to use the new tools then what was the point?

It's sorta like putting the best tasting frosting on a cake made with salt instead of sugar. Sure it looks great and if you scrape off a taste you'll be happy, but once you bite into the substance all you get is a bad taste in your mouth with hints and memories of the delicious icing that was wasted.

Yet another blog about Eve- http://ruar-eve.blogspot.com/

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#56 - 2012-07-08 10:02:48 UTC
Ruareve wrote:



I agree that these are great additions/changes to the game but they are honestly nothing more than regular updates that almost all other MMO's make on a monthly or quarterly basis. Balance, adjustments, and additional gear are things that should happen constantly and not only after a failed expansion.

The problem though is no matter how well balanced hybrids are compared to projectiles if the players don't want to log in to use the new tools then what was the point?

It's sorta like putting the best tasting frosting on a cake made with salt instead of sugar. Sure it looks great and if you scrape off a taste you'll be happy, but once you bite into the substance all you get is a bad taste in your mouth with hints and memories of the delicious icing that was wasted.


Ship rebalancing without breaking something is not an easy thing. Unlike other MMOs, EVE does not need constant injections of new missions to give people content.
Ruareve
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-07-08 10:06:29 UTC
baltec1 wrote:


Ship rebalancing without breaking something is not an easy thing. Unlike other MMOs, EVE does not need constant injections of new missions to give people content.



It's easier than that, especially when there were so many threads breaking down the math shown where changes needed to happen.

You are correct, EVE does not need constant injections of new missions... as long as CCP doesn't mind losing subscriptions. However if they want the game to grow they are going to have to invest time and effort into the PVE side of the house.

Yet another blog about Eve- http://ruar-eve.blogspot.com/

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2012-07-08 10:09:46 UTC
Ruareve wrote:
baltec1 wrote:


Ship rebalancing without breaking something is not an easy thing. Unlike other MMOs, EVE does not need constant injections of new missions to give people content.



It's easier than that, especially when there were so many threads breaking down the math shown where changes needed to happen.

You are correct, EVE does not need constant injections of new missions... as long as CCP doesn't mind losing subscriptions. However if they want the game to grow they are going to have to invest time and effort into the PVE side of the house.


Been doing fine for 9 years doing what they are doing now.
Kisumii
Astral Acquisitions Inc.
#59 - 2012-07-08 10:22:01 UTC
This thread has appeared later in the year than normal
Sarton Wells
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2012-07-08 12:45:47 UTC
Ruareve wrote:
However if they want the game to grow they are going to have to invest time and effort into the PVE side of the house.


No, they don't. Eve is based around player interaction, not ai interaction. What CCP needs to do (and are doing) is improve the tools for said player interactions and add new ones. PvE in eve is a way of making isk. And it should remain relatively boring in order to discourage the players from doing too much of it. Having more players that are only interested (or even mainly interested) in pve is bad for the game.