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Why CFC Will Lose The War

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#61 - 2012-07-08 08:54:35 UTC
Haoibuni wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Why would we need to hold on to the space to win the war? Especially since we have all sorts of wonderful friends we could just give it to?....


Have fun jumping 50 jumps to find a fight once you do.


You underestimate jump clones and bridges.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#62 - 2012-07-08 08:58:16 UTC
Dave stark wrote:

wildfire....

damn you, now i want to watch the end of s2 of game of thrones again...


I want to stuff a badger full of that stuff
Nyrak
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#63 - 2012-07-08 08:59:48 UTC
As a self-proclaimed high security resident that likes reading these types of threads, could someone please define who is a part of CFC besides Goonswarm and Test and SoCo besides Solar and A (whomever they are).

I read these forums often and casually note people's appearance with a corporation. So knowing the players of this war would be a great help as I continue to read.

Thanks!
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#64 - 2012-07-08 09:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Vera Algaert wrote:

Their propaganda has pretty much brought them into a position...


Oh dear, what would the pubbies think if we didn't follow through on the hurf blurf we post. Their opinions of us may sour.

wasn't so long ago that mittens had to remind you that despite several years of "all russians are bots" indoctrination that statement might in fact not be true and that it would certainly not be a wise thing to say in front of your russian friends.

His "Real Money Trading (RMT) is a common refrain in nullsec; it’s always the enemy doing it, or anyone who disagrees with you, or whatever. " stance was obviously not shared by the alliance at large which had actually bought into the prior CFC (and NC) propaganda and suddenly found it hard to distinguish between good russians and bad russians.

the issue with good propaganda is that eventually your own people will actually believe it.

.
Dave Stark
#65 - 2012-07-08 09:01:07 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
Dave stark wrote:

wildfire....

damn you, now i want to watch the end of s2 of game of thrones again...


I want to stuff a badger full of that stuff


oh, how glorious that would be. like a one use smart bomb on steroids...
but you'd be able to put more in an itty V :P
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#66 - 2012-07-08 09:02:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Nyrak wrote:
As a self-proclaimed high security resident that likes reading these types of threads, could someone please define who is a part of CFC besides Goonswarm and Test and SoCo besides Solar and A (whomever they are).

I read these forums often and casually note people's appearance with a corporation. So knowing the players of this war would be a great help as I continue to read.

Thanks!


The entire west side of EVE is CFC, from TEST in Delve to RAZOR, and going east up north till NC.

Everything else (except NC.) is SoCo pretty much.

CFC is an old coalition, and the bonds run strong. SoCo is rather new, and not all of its member alliances fully trust each other, as they were shooting each other not long ago.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#67 - 2012-07-08 09:09:10 UTC
Dave stark wrote:


oh, how glorious that would be. like a one use smart bomb on steroids...
but you'd be able to put more in an itty V :P


Itty Vs. I should build a few of them for this delve invasion.
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#68 - 2012-07-08 09:12:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Haoibuni wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Why would we need to hold on to the space to win the war? Especially since we have all sorts of wonderful friends we could just give it to?....


Have fun jumping 50 jumps to find a fight once you do.


Thankfully our utterly unseemly amounts of money and frighteningly effective logistics team means that we can create a staging system nearly anywhere in the game we want, whenever we want. Its not 50 jumps to a fight if you start living right next door to wherever it is you're burning to ash. That's precisely what we've done for this war. Dropped a brand new Outpost right on the front steps of Delve to stage out of. It only took our industrial and market goons a few days to stock it to near Jita levels.

Its not our masses of Drakes and Capitals that wins our wars. Its our logistics team and producers being insane.

Things would be so much more simple if our enemies could put aside their chest beating and grandiose statements and realize that they are fighting one of the most organized and best funded militaries in Eve. You can blather on all you like about holding firm and such but at the end of the day we're just plain better* than everyone else is at internet spaceships.

* Collectively. On an individual level goons are horrible at Eve-Online.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#69 - 2012-07-08 09:16:51 UTC
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Haoibuni wrote:
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Why would we need to hold on to the space to win the war? Especially since we have all sorts of wonderful friends we could just give it to?....


Have fun jumping 50 jumps to find a fight once you do.


Thankfully our utterly unseemly amounts of money and frighteningly effective logistics team means that we can create a staging system nearly anywhere in the game we want, whenever we want. Its not 50 jumps to a fight if you start living right next door to wherever it is you're burning to ash. That's precisely what we've done for this war. Dropped a brand new Outpost right on the front steps of Delve to stage out of. It only took our industrial and market goons a few days to stock it to near Jita levels.

Its not our masses of Drakes and Capitals that wins our wars. Its our logistics team and producers being insane.


That, and the CFC mentality. It seems that most alliances get sad when they lose ships. To us, its pretty much a hiccup. Reship and get right back in the fight.

Its pretty easy to grind down someone's morale when all it takes is a few victories in the field. Ours only gets stronger when there's a real threat (see: the entire Deklein war).
Tarsus Zateki
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2012-07-08 09:18:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarsus Zateki
Akirei Scytale wrote:

Its pretty easy to grind down someone's morale when all it takes is a few victories in the field. Ours only gets stronger when there's a real threat (see: the entire Deklein war).


Unfortunately these pubbies will just accuse you of posturing and putting on a brave face. The idea of our willingness to accept and absorb casualties to win wars is utterly foreign and offensive to most pubbies.

The fact that we all busted up laughing when -A- managed to bomb an entire Drake fleet and then just went and got new Drakes to keep fighting is outright impossible for them to believe. We could have a video recording entire fleets of ours being destroyed with us just calming reshipping and getting back into the fight without caring at all about the loss and they would still accuse us of lying.

You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2012-07-08 10:07:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Thankfully our utterly unseemly amounts of money and frighteningly effective logistics team means that we can create a staging system nearly anywhere in the game we want, whenever we want. Its not 50 jumps to a fight if you start living right next door to wherever it is you're burning to ash. That's precisely what we've done for this war. Dropped a brand new Outpost right on the front steps of Delve to stage out of. It only took our industrial and market goons a few days to stock it to near Jita levels.

Its not our masses of Drakes and Capitals that wins our wars. Its our logistics team and producers being insane.

Akirei Scytale wrote:
That, and the CFC mentality. It seems that most alliances get sad when they lose ships. To us, its pretty much a hiccup. Reship and get right back in the fight.

Tarsus Zateki wrote:
Unfortunately these pubbies will just accuse you of posturing and putting on a brave face. The idea of our willingness to accept and absorb casualties to win wars is utterly foreign and offensive to most pubbies.

The fact that we all busted up laughing when -A- managed to bomb an entire Drake fleet and then just went and got new Drakes to keep fighting is outright impossible for them to believe. We could have a video recording entire fleets of ours being destroyed with us just calming reshipping and getting back into the fight without caring at all about the loss and they would still accuse us of lying.

Sorry to interrupt this, but i simply can't not post this :


<3 <3 <3

I'd be a great goon/TESTie.
EvEa Deva
Doomheim
#72 - 2012-07-08 10:28:40 UTC
You can take our sov but you can never take our FREEEEDOOOMMM
Dave Stark
#73 - 2012-07-08 10:30:43 UTC
EvEa Deva wrote:
You can take our sov but you can never take our FREEEEDOOOMMM



personally, i'd rather have the sov.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#74 - 2012-07-08 10:31:23 UTC
Dave stark wrote:
EvEa Deva wrote:
You can take our sov but you can never take our FREEEEDOOOMMM



personally, i'd rather have the sov.


Pretty sure we're the free ones too.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#75 - 2012-07-08 11:31:38 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
EvEa Deva wrote:
You can take our sov but you can never take our FREEEEDOOOMMM

personally, i'd rather have the sov.

Pretty sure we're the free ones too.

The freedome of being under -A-'s thumb.

The freedome of never undocking.

The freedome of a bubble camp.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#76 - 2012-07-08 11:33:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Lin-Young Borovskova
Does any one have the sound of that FC pop in his Loki while playing station games on a hot Saturday night?

That was hell funny Lol

Also: moar bubbles !!Lol

Eve is real, I was there Cool

brb
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#77 - 2012-07-08 11:35:15 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
EvEa Deva wrote:
You can take our sov but you can never take our FREEEEDOOOMMM

personally, i'd rather have the sov.

Pretty sure we're the free ones too.

The freedome of being under -A-'s thumb.

The freedome of never undocking.

The freedome of a bubble camp.



Freedom to wake up and pop 30 of you guys before my coffee finished brewing.


and LOL ECM on Drakes?
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#78 - 2012-07-08 11:36:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Alavaria Fera
Onictus wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Dave stark wrote:
EvEa Deva wrote:
You can take our sov but you can never take our FREEEEDOOOMMM

personally, i'd rather have the sov.

Pretty sure we're the free ones too.

The freedome of being under -A-'s thumb.

The freedome of never undocking.

The freedome of a bubble camp.



Freedom to wake up and pop 30 of you guys before my coffee finished brewing.


and LOL ECM on Drakes?

LOL.

Bet it's nice to watch your "friends" lose their sov, eh. Guess you'll be the saviors when you help them get it back or something.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#79 - 2012-07-08 11:41:05 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:


Bet it's nice to watch your "friends" lose their sov, eh. Guess you'll be the saviors when you help them get it back or something.


Yeah there is going to be structure grind hell at some point.
Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#80 - 2012-07-08 11:43:46 UTC
Onictus wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:


Bet it's nice to watch your "friends" lose their sov, eh. Guess you'll be the saviors when you help them get it back or something.


Yeah there is going to be structure grind hell at some point.

The biggest time sink on our structure grind is, capping the dreads and titans up.
We chew through a system in under 8 minutes.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise."