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Have you ever wondered if it was possible to bomb a capital ship?
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Luba Cibre
Global Song Setup
#81 - 2012-07-07 05:59:36 UTC
Karadion Kohlar wrote:
Luba Cibre wrote:
Internet Lawyer Steve wrote:
A couple of questions for CCP.

Since this is a known bug and its being exploited, as seen in the video, Why are the offenders not being banned and Why is this thread still open?

Its always been your policy to lock threads that exploit broken game mechanics, yet you let this thread live.


TL;DR

Ban OP, Ban members of bombing run, Nuke thread.

Are you really this dumb?

You have to ask?

No not really...it was more like an hidden insult.

"Nothing essential happens in the absence of noise." 
Karadion Kohlar
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#82 - 2012-07-07 06:00:37 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
that is one of the best looking things I have seen in eve, mayhaps make this a feature ccp?

CCP doesn't implement features, they only create more bugs and exploits.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#83 - 2012-07-07 06:06:47 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
that is one of the best looking things I have seen in eve, mayhaps make this a feature ccp?


Bombing runs are already purdy. (Not that the bombers get to stick around and watch)

Bombing runs of this scale are fundamentally game-breaking.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#84 - 2012-07-07 06:15:46 UTC
Also, this was my face right before the bomb run on the Nid and Beffah.

I get to be 1 of 160 pilots who ever got to do this Big smile
StJohn Hawkes
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#85 - 2012-07-07 11:25:35 UTC
I think this bug was actually a fix to blob. Indeed, judging from the video, bombs had to be fixed. However, I would suggest raising the 'kill each other' cap to 15-20 bombs instead of current 7, if I'm not mistaken. This would eliminate the problem of overkill without destroying established bomber fleet concept. 7 bombs is probably not enough to kill even a well-tanked Drake, not to mention battleships, which makes the blob totally unchallenged.

Those bombing fleets I've seen in action (both from inside and outside these fleets) never bombed with more than about two squads at the same time and never used different types of damaging bombs, so stuff like in the video never happened in real fights. And bombers weren't overpowered. Fleets warped off or jumped into gates before bombs exploded, bombers got bubbled and totally annihilated - so no, bombing was not a cakewalk.

This topic makes me wonder, though. Remember the fight for C-J6MT half a year ago, when combined defenders' bombing fleet (including PL) pwned about 70 AAA Tengus? Here's an example of a kill: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12368993&nolimit First came a few Void bombs and then about 20 Electron bombs. I don't remember any complains that bombs are bugged from PL then. I remember hype, giggles and posting related kills everywhere. What happened? Why this video just now? It was okay to wipe out T3 fleets, but now that Drakes are dying, there's definetely something wrong with bombs? Or is it a matter of who's getting bombed?

*puts tinfoil hat on* Heey, was it really PL behind the idea of this video, or were they just messengers? Looking at who's losing most ships to bombs in south, I think my brothers in hats know the answer. Roll
Onictus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#86 - 2012-07-07 11:32:50 UTC
StJohn Hawkes wrote:

This topic makes me wonder, though. Remember the fight for C-J6MT half a year ago, when combined defenders' bombing fleet (including PL) pwned about 70 AAA Tengus? Here's an example of a kill: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12368993&nolimit First came a few Void bombs and then about 20 Electron bombs. I don't remember any complains that bombs are bugged from PL then. I remember hype, giggles and posting related kills everywhere. What happened? Why this video just now? It was okay to wipe out T3 fleets, but now that Drakes are dying, there's definetely something wrong with bombs? Or is it a matter of who's getting bombed?

*puts tinfoil hat on* Heey, was it really PL behind the idea of this video, or were they just messengers? Looking at who's losing most ships to bombs in south, I think my brothers in hats know the answer. Roll



In this case I doubt there was a lot of tinfoil involved. They found a bug. .......normally you would go do a bug test on sis but they did it on TQ for lolz or something. Good for them.


For reference PL picked up that void bomb trick from Gypse Band who did it to them a few weeks before.


Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#87 - 2012-07-07 18:54:56 UTC
Onictus wrote:

In this case I doubt there was a lot of tinfoil involved. They found a bug. .......normally you would go do a bug test on sis but they did it on TQ for lolz or something. Good for them.


For reference PL picked up that void bomb trick from Gypse Band who did it to them a few weeks before.




The CFC has been doing 1 wing of voids into multiple wings of damage for a very long time, FYI.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#88 - 2012-07-07 21:17:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
StJohn Hawkes wrote:
I think this bug was actually a fix to blob. Indeed, judging from the video, bombs had to be fixed. However, I would suggest raising the 'kill each other' cap to 15-20 bombs instead of current 7, if I'm not mistaken. This would eliminate the problem of overkill without destroying established bomber fleet concept. 7 bombs is probably not enough to kill even a well-tanked Drake, not to mention battleships, which makes the blob totally unchallenged.

Those bombing fleets I've seen in action (both from inside and outside these fleets) never bombed with more than about two squads at the same time and never used different types of damaging bombs, so stuff like in the video never happened in real fights. And bombers weren't overpowered. Fleets warped off or jumped into gates before bombs exploded, bombers got bubbled and totally annihilated - so no, bombing was not a cakewalk.

This topic makes me wonder, though. Remember the fight for C-J6MT half a year ago, when combined defenders' bombing fleet (including PL) pwned about 70 AAA Tengus? Here's an example of a kill: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12368993&nolimit First came a few Void bombs and then about 20 Electron bombs. I don't remember any complains that bombs are bugged from PL then. I remember hype, giggles and posting related kills everywhere. What happened? Why this video just now? It was okay to wipe out T3 fleets, but now that Drakes are dying, there's definetely something wrong with bombs? Or is it a matter of who's getting bombed?

*puts tinfoil hat on* Heey, was it really PL behind the idea of this video, or were they just messengers? Looking at who's losing most ships to bombs in south, I think my brothers in hats know the answer. Roll

I am not aware of this bug surfacing before.

It is not uncommon to have multiple wings of bombers launching as soon as the previous volley detonates on bubbled or slow to react targets.

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