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Corporation TAX for market transactions
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Dvesk Sunie
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-06 18:43:04 UTC
Is there any way to make a corporation tax for any market transactions that are made by corp members?

And if not, what do u think, is it a good idea?

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The Protato
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2012-07-06 18:43:45 UTC
No. Stop trying to turn your corp into a cash farm.
Patrakele
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-07-06 18:45:27 UTC
How about a tax for stupid posts? If you don't have enough isk to pay the tax, you can't post.
Charles Baker
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-07-06 18:46:55 UTC
Patrakele wrote:
How about a tax for stupid posts? If you don't have enough isk to pay the tax, you can't post.


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Missile Hmxy
Reckless Corporation
#5 - 2012-07-06 18:47:46 UTC
shitpost shitpost shitpooooosssst
Omar Pyreheart
Fabricated Reality
#6 - 2012-07-06 18:49:14 UTC
I have never posted before, but this post has caused me to do so.

You disgust me more than Jita chat scammers.
The Protato
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-06 18:53:04 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
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Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#8 - 2012-07-06 18:55:05 UTC
The Protato wrote:
No. Stop trying to turn your corp into a cash farm.


What this guy said...

Even though I run my own corp. As a trader I would leave if the CEO did that.
Chokichi Ozuwara
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-07-06 19:31:20 UTC
It's not a bad idea for trade corps. Obviously they need a funding mechanism.

This level of player control is beyond what CCP will allow us though. The game isn't designed to be emergent, unless we open up the definition of emergent to include "all human action and interaction"

Tears will be shed and pants will need to be changed all round.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#10 - 2012-07-06 19:49:42 UTC
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
It's not a bad idea for trade corps.



It is.

Just set monthly tax based on whatever calculation and if the member doesn't want to pay it he's free to leave or get a boot to his ass.
Tools are there, use them.
However I really think market skills should get a huge ban nerf because the huge amounts of isk traded every day with little to almost laughable amounts is stupid. The higher amounts you deal the higher you should pay, not the other way around where a noob almost pay more taxes so sell his crap than the guy masturbating his keyboard to play 1isk wars (per item) with billions of stuff.

Base tax should be the same than PI base one, 17% and decrease with skills but never at ridiculous low level it is now. CCP you want to make isk get away from the game, then tax those, collect tears and market alts ragequiting for D3 and the power of click click click click clicky.

Player owned stations could also have options to set market fees accordingly to standings, this would be a nice option to bring at alliance/corporation level some decent revenue and also meta game, but taxed then by concord when capital is moved from station owner wallet to destination wallet (Alliance holding corp)

brb
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-07-06 20:02:26 UTC
Three words: shell corporation, alts

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Crunchie Attuxors
Always Another Corporate Venture
#12 - 2012-07-06 20:02:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Crunchie Attuxors
Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:
It's not a bad idea for trade corps. Obviously they need a funding mechanism.


Yes, we have many:

1) Mandatory monthly/weekly fee

2) Mandatory lotto

3) Mandatory tax based on the mission collection (ie, if tax is 5%, corp has 50 toons, 25 made missions, and the total tax take was 100 million, then the other 25 have to pay 4 million each).

Etc, etc, etc.

Trouble is, this kind of thing require CEOs that actually provide value in return of that isk, or are great con artists.

What OP proposes is farming the noobs out of their revenue without having to work for it. Disgusting and lazy.

There was a time when scamming isk was hard and required cunning, intelligence, and social skills. Now these children want everything in silver platter.

EDIT:

I make the bulk of my isk is trading, and make billions a month. One of my toons is in 0% tax corps run by voluntary lotto. And its doing quite well. So please think harder.
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DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#13 - 2012-07-07 18:57:24 UTC
How about adding a corp mining tax? Evil or better yet a NPC corp mining tax EvilEvil Dunno how that would work though since if you tried to impose the tax at the time the minerals are sold all you'd get is a bunch of tax cheat alts doing station swamps with thier mains to exade thier corp over lords greedy fingers. Also trying to tax once the ore is mined could create alot of negitive wallets if they get ganked before hauling thier stuff to station or get can flipped.
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Dave Stark
#14 - 2012-07-07 19:00:03 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
How about adding a corp mining tax? Evil or better yet a NPC corp mining tax EvilEvil Dunno how that would work though since if you tried to impose the tax at the time the minerals are sold all you'd get is a bunch of tax cheat alts doing station swamps with thier mains to exade thier corp over lords greedy fingers. Also trying to tax once the ore is mined could create alot of negitive wallets if they get ganked before hauling thier stuff to station or get can flipped.


mining already has a tax, it's the station refining tax.
Captain TNT
Alt Union Club
#15 - 2012-07-07 19:13:27 UTC
do i look like a goat tit to provide milk to the corp the corp with my hard earning ISK?! Evil
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
#16 - 2012-07-07 19:16:03 UTC
Captain TNT wrote:
do i look like a goat tit to provide milk to the corp the corp with my hard earning ISK?! Evil



Well you do have facial hair that resembles goatee of sorts....
Go ahead I dare you to make fun of my tinfoil hat P
An' then Chicken@little.com, he come scramblin outta the    Terminal room screaming "The system's crashing! The system's    crashing!" -Uncle RAMus, 'Tales for Cyberpsychotic Children'
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#17 - 2012-07-07 19:16:18 UTC
I don't see why you would want this feature implemented. The only people who wouldn't ragequit the corp would be newbies.
Captain TNT
Alt Union Club
#18 - 2012-07-07 19:23:29 UTC
DarthNefarius wrote:
Captain TNT wrote:
do i look like a goat tit to provide milk to the corp the corp with my hard earning ISK?! Evil



Well you do have facial hair that resembles goatee of sorts....
Go ahead I dare you to make fun of my tinfoil hat P

Want some milk bro? Lol
Gun Gal
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-07-07 19:56:45 UTC
Dvesk Sunie wrote:
Is there any way to make a corporation tax for any market transactions that are made by corp members?

And if not, what do u think, is it a good idea?



Awesome idea, course, it would then be an awesome Idea to rip you off blind, for being such a greedy arsenal
Just saying,......
Skorpynekomimi
#20 - 2012-07-07 20:04:11 UTC
Charles Baker wrote:
Patrakele wrote:
How about a tax for stupid posts? If you don't have enough isk to pay the tax, you can't post.


CSPA charge the forums


That's actually a damn good idea.

Hell, why not make it so you have to train a skill to post replies, and topics, as well.

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