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San Jina Just Another Industrial Corp Likes received: 1	#1 - 2011-10-08 05:17:59 UTC Build your Perfect LVL 4 Typhoon (yeas the Maelstrom is way better)

Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 606
Caleidascope Republic Military School Minmatar Republic Likes received: 606	#2 - 2011-10-08 05:36:52 UTC Step 1: Armor tank. Life is short and dinner time is chancy Eat dessert first!

San Jina

Just Another Industrial Corp

Likes received: 1

#3 - 2011-10-08 06:47:12 UTC

What about.....

[Typhoon, EVEMon Typhoon: Passive Phoon LvL 4]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
1200mm Heavy 'Scout' Artillery I, EMP L
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I, Paradise Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I

Large Core Defence Field Purger I
Large Core Defence Field Purger I
Large Core Defence Field Purger I

Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

1-Up Mushroom

Doomheim

Likes received: 175

#4 - 2011-10-08 13:38:45 UTC

San Jina wrote:

Can't tell if serious or not....

5 Days In A Week... 4 Seasons In A Year... 3 Colors In A Stoplight... 2 Hemispheres On The Earth... ONLY 1-UP MUSHROOM!!!

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Nuthyn Likes received: 19	#5 - 2011-10-08 16:29:28 UTC I have used a similar fit, so it is a "fit" that soes work. i just had bad luck with it. Anyone want to share a good Armor Tankfit???

San Jina

Just Another Industrial Corp

Likes received: 1

#6 - 2011-10-08 18:11:58 UTC

1-Up Mushroom wrote:

San Jina wrote:

Can't tell if serious or not....

Not trolling I promise this is one Iv'e seen being used but didn't work too well. Just looking for feedback.

Caleidascope

Republic Military School

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 606

#7 - 2011-10-08 20:20:20 UTC

San Jina wrote:

Tried it. Armor tank lasted longer.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Lili Lu

Likes received: 779

#8 - 2011-10-09 03:44:16 UTC | Edited by: Lili Lu

Yes the Mael is better . . except tanking sansha and bloods and dealing with tracking disruption and neuting are not its strong suit and a phoon will do you better, provided you have the skills. The following is not a "perfect" fitting but is an affordable one and gets the job done well.

I suggest the following for those amarr rat missions

Highs - 5 x cruise launcher II (paradise cruise), 3 x 1200mm Arty II (emp or phased plasma, or proton for snipe or anti-td)
Meds - 2 x Eutectic, 1 x phased weapon nav extron (painter because it helps all three weapon systems), lif fueled booster rockets (this could be swapped out if the gates aren't far and you need someithing else there like a cap injector if blood neuting will be severe).
Lows - 2 x BCU II, Therm and Em Hardener IIs, LAR II, EANM II(could swap this for a third BCU II if incoming damage not much worry), DC II
Rigs - ACR, ANP, and drone control range augmentor
Drones - 5 x hobgob II, 5 x Hammer II, 4 x Garde II (could use curator II if the rat spawns are snipe distance)

The cap lasts 5 and half minutes with LAR running and ab off, and aganinst em rats you are tanking 546 burst and 372 sustained. This is plenty because with the gardes you are putting out 660 at 25km or so with specs at 4 and the 4 gardes deployed (700 at all 5 specs, 2 bcu, and 4 gardes; ~740 dps with 3 BCU II fit). At 40 km you are within the falloff for the drones and short range projectile ammo.

If you do not have all three weapons systems at tech II then best named can service (arbalests and scouts). I do not like heavy drones, hate waiting for them to plod out to target and to the next target. Heavys are really a pvp weapon imo unless you are using berserkers against angels which like to orbit close. If you don't have sentrys then send out the hammer IIs because you will have 70km drone control range and they at least will apply their damage quicker.

Again, a maelstrom will be better for other rats, but for the amarr rats it makes sense to use the armor Phoon for the em armor resist bonus all mattar ships get and to use missiles and droneage against the tracking disruption of sansha, and to have an easily available mid for a cap injector to combat blood neuting.

The phoon is fun to fly. Sometimes it makes sense to split damage. For instance dronage on cruisers while highs on BS. Not an afk boat, you have to constantly think about range, tracking, target size (and what to paint), whether to move and which direction, which drones to have deployed, etc. To me this is what eve ships should be about. I have flown drakes and nighthawk, but stayed away from the raven because the warp in, sit in one place, target and pres f button, missile boat is boring for me.

Songbird

Likes received: 86

#9 - 2011-10-09 04:31:08 UTC | Edited by: Songbird

You silly goose - tracking disrupting in PVE environment doesn't change falloff

[Typhoon, New Setup 1]
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer
Gyrostabilizer II x3
Ballistic Control System II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range x2
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile x3
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L x5

Large Bay Loading Accelerator I
Large Projectile Ambit Extension I
Large Ancillary Current Router I

Edit gah forgot 10 drones: 5 garde 2s 5 mediums

Lili Lu

Likes received: 779

#10 - 2011-10-09 04:44:29 UTC

Songbird wrote:

You silly goose - tracking disrupting in PVE environment doesn't change falloff

It does affect your tracking, not just your optimal. And, falloff is reducing your applied dps. Also, unlike angels, blood raiders and sansha have more ships that will shoot you from outside ac falloff. I would not feel comfortable flying your fit without a DC for unexpected disconnect survival, or with no hobgoblins to kill scram frigs if i screwed up triggers and found my tank getting swamped and needed to warp out.

Regardless, your post only proves another wonderful thing about the Phoon, it can be fit so many ways to serve the preferences of its master. This is a wonderful thing. Smile

kyrv

State Protectorate

Caldari State

Likes received: 11

#11 - 2011-10-09 13:30:38 UTC | Edited by: kyrv

Edit: 901 dps with a navy typhoon Smile

[Typhoon, Typhoon fit]

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L

Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Caldari Navy Ballistic Deflection Field
Caldari Navy Heat Dissipation Field

Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Damage Control II
Shield Flux Coil II
Shield Flux Coil II
Shield Flux Coil II

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I

Warden II x5

AureoLion

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 79

#12 - 2011-10-09 14:23:09 UTC

I present you, the best paper mission ship ever. It may suck in real world, but who cares!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/783175/FDDShots/1318165803.png
It may actually work, in some twisted way. Perhaps against angels.
Guns take care of small stuff, missiles of BSs.
Drones should be long-range, likely.
Hey, it has more DPS than both Golem and Machariel!
As you may notice, CPU is hellah tight. Can't fit 5th siege instead of a gun.
Barrage will work better at long-range.
Not cheap, but... HAS FIREPOWER (and applies it half-decently i guess?)


Songbird Likes received: 86	#13 - 2011-10-09 19:17:41 UTC Phoon is jack of all trades, master of none. it fails at pve. Min pve ship is the maelstrom and when you get the skills, the vargur, because of the falloff bonus. That's all

Anya Ohaya

School of Applied Knowledge

Caldari State

Likes received: 201

#14 - 2011-10-09 23:18:39 UTC | Edited by: Anya Ohaya

Caveat: I've never flown a phoon, but I do like the look of the ship :-) This is a fast short range max DPS fit, with minimal tank.

Does 1100 DPS with max skills and T1 ammo, or over 1280 DPS (!!) using Hail and CN torps.
Moves at 412 m/s with AB.
The tank will take about 280 DPS, but only for a couple of minutes. You'll need to use the firepower to reduce incoming DPS quickly.

[Typhoon L4]

800mm Repeating Artillery II x5
Siege Missile Launcher x3

LiF Fueled I Booster Rockets
Large Sheild Booster II
Invulnerability Field II x2

Ballistic Control System II x2
Gyrostabilizer II x2
Tracking Enhancer II
Power Diagnostic System II
Co-Processor II

Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I x3

Ogre II x6
Hobgoblin II x5

Kesshisan

Likes received: 109

#15 - 2011-10-10 01:31:53 UTC

Here's a "real" PvE Typhoon:

[Typhoon, MissilePhoon]
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Cap Recharger II
Sensor Booster II
Target Painter II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Bouncer II x5
Valkyrie II x5

You will do a whopping 669 DPS with T2 missiles at ~95k out. Well, sorta. You Bouncers will only do about 66-75% damage at that range, but they can still hit things that far out.

Your tank is cap stable with only the mid repper active without the cap booster, this should be plenty enough to handle the frigates and cruisers on you while you kill the battleships on approach. You tank is cap stable with the large and mid running with the cap booster on.

If things get inside of your drones, that's what the Valks are for. You can replace those with Hammerheads if you want. The Hammerheads will do more damage, but you're flying rust, make your drones rust damnit!

On top of it all this fit doesn't require good skills to fit. You can have crap skills and still fit everything. All Level Vs actually has over 33 cpu and 5,000 pg available.

The biggest thing this ship will have problems with are where you have to fight things up close. Which is why this ship is a sub-optimal mission running ship. It can't do everything with one fit like many other mission ships can. It will also struggle with some missions where you are forced to warp in close (Last room of World's Collide.)

Any other Minmatar BS will be a better ship for PvE than a Typhoon. But you can PvE in one if you want.

Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate 1,231
Mina Sebiestar Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate Likes received: 1,231	#16 - 2011-10-10 07:22:23 UTC Get a fleet phoon at least it can be fitted to do missions pwn stile. http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/36159-Typhoon-Fleet-Issue-dps-pipe.html only phoon i would fly unfortunately it require god like skills elephant size ballz and price it self can kill you<====im missing all of those XD. You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear Because >>I is too hard

Kesshisan

Likes received: 109

#17 - 2011-10-10 08:46:27 UTC

Mina Sebiestar wrote:

Get a fleet phoon at least it can be fitted to do missions pwn stile.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/36159-Typhoon-Fleet-Issue-dps-pipe.html

I don't like that fit. In fact I dislike it a lot.

First, you have 5 missile launchers and 3 guns. Yet your lows have 3 Missile launcher improvements and 5 gun improvements. That's totally mismatched in my opinion.

Second, you're using Ogre IIs. Take your Drone DPS and cut out 4/5ths of it. That's how much "real" DPS you'll be doing. Ogre IIs with no navigation computer take a very long time to get from point A to point B. They will literally spend 80% of the time traveling.

Third, holy crap that's expensive. There's no reason to spend that much isk on a Typhoon when other ships with the same skill set (or fewer skills) can function much better for far cheaper.


Songbird Likes received: 86	#18 - 2011-10-10 11:11:45 UTC cruise missile phoon ? Why not just fly CNR.

Mina Sebiestar

Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate

Likes received: 1,231

#19 - 2011-10-15 15:08:31 UTC | Edited by: Mina Sebiestar

Kesshisan wrote:

Mina Sebiestar wrote:

Get a fleet phoon at least it can be fitted to do missions pwn stile.

http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/36159-Typhoon-Fleet-Issue-dps-pipe.html

I don't like that fit. In fact I dislike it a lot.

First, you have 5 missile launchers and 3 guns. Yet your lows have 3 Missile launcher improvements and 5 gun improvements. That's totally mismatched in my opinion.

Second, you're using Ogre IIs. Take your Drone DPS and cut out 4/5ths of it. That's how much "real" DPS you'll be doing. Ogre IIs with no navigation computer take a very long time to get from point A to point B. They will literally spend 80% of the time traveling.

Third, holy crap that's expensive. There's no reason to spend that much isk on a Typhoon when other ships with the same skill set (or fewer skills) can function much better for far cheaper.

That ship use 6 mods not 3 to help missiles apply as max dmg as possible to a target it just dont use 6 BCU and why should it, is kinda not smart to do that.

That fit is kinda old but i agree that sentry drones would be more effective.i have feeling that ogres are there for nice looking dps figures.

yes it is cluster@#$% expensive,but i stated that that one is only one i would fly if i have something/something/something...you show me typhoon fit that do more pwnage at that ranges using last bit of ship bonuses and il give you internet space ships fitting medal...that fit just look dangerous that is why i like it.

You choke behind a smile a fake behind the fear

Because >>I is too hard

Theodoric Darkwind

The Scope

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 320

#20 - 2011-10-16 08:27:32 UTC

Ok. Dps isn't stellar, but the tank is decent for a single repper setup. Was able to get it cap stable without CCCs so was able to drop active armor rigs in to make the single repper tank better. Hardeners are rat specific. 661 dps serpentis/gurista tank and 701 dps with cheap ammo and gardes, no implants needed but AWU 5 is needed.

[Typhoon, pve phoon]
Large Armor Repairer II
Power Diagnostic System II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Ballistic Control System II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Paradise Cruise Missile
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L
1200mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP L

Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x5

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