EVE New Citizens Q&A

First off - for the new player, salvaging is an excellent source of income, especially if you are running missions at the same time.


Regarding blueprints - it's not so much "disposable" as "inefficient to use". Blueprints have two important stats on them - Material Efficiency (ME) which reduces the amount of material needed to produce an item from that blueprint and Production Efficiency (PE) which increases the speed at which items are produced using this blueprint. Researching to increasing these stats - especially ME, but also PE - is referred to as "cooking" them, and will increase your profit margin and turnover speed respectively.

Blueprints also come in two varieties - Blueprint Original (BPO) and Blueprint Copy (BPC). Blueprint Copies are produced from Blueprint Originals and typically take little time and even fewer skills to produce, making them an easy way for a new industrialist to break into the market. Here is the important bit: BPCs are inherently "disposable" because, unlike BPOs from which an infinite number of items can be produced, BPCs have a limited number of runs which are set when the BPC is copied.

Also ship building is heavily competed and not something you should start with. You would be competing with other players with optimal blueprint/skills AND players selling their old ships away, sometimes with less than what it takes to build them.

If your building ships you need to buy Blue print Copies that have maxed out ME research then move to a location where you can buy very cheap minerals and have factorys with a faction you have high standings with. High standings means use of facilities and low fees.

Its always been a little difficult to make money building ships, so you need to do everything you possibly can to cut down on cost to increase your margins. Do your homework see what ships are selling for and how much it costs to build them. Get production efficiency to V if you can this also cuts down on cost.

Accounting and broker relations wouldn't hurt either because once your ship is built you wont want to be selling it direct to buy orders.

As a new player dont bother with Blue print originals. They cost tens to hundreds of millions of isk brand new and more if they have been researched. You would also need a pos to research them.

By the way. Its actually not a good Idea to do both mission running and salvaging at the same time. It better to ninja salavage or straight up have a mission runner who will give you mission book marks to salvage.

Missioning always makes more money when you focus on maxing out pay out of isk and lp rewards. Stoping to salvage every time you complete a mission means you will actually make less cash per hour. Also as a new player stopping to salvage your ****** little lvl 1's and 2's will just kill the rate of your standings gain for very little profit.

Its a hard lesson learned but its a common misconception. Salvage, or mission dont mix the two especially at low levels of play.

This is correct; for the most part, people tend to produce BPCs with the maximum possible runs on them. In part this is just for ease of production, but also because BPCs are used for Invention, which is a chance-based mechanism used to convert T1 BPCs into T2 BPCs for the same item (or T2 variant of ship). If a BPC does not have max runs on it when it is used for invention, the T2 BPC resulting from a successful invent will have inferior stats compared to one produced from a BPC with max runs on it.

Finally, a couple of other things I probably should've mentioned in my first post:

- If you intend to focus on production, your most important skills right now are Production Efficiency, Mass Production, and Industry. Later you'll get skills to produce specific types of modules - inventing T2 BPCs, producing certain ships, etc.

- As has been said in this thread, the market for ship production is a tight one, and alone you will at best have extreme difficulty breaking in and at worst be muscled out by huge producers. But! - do not be discouraged. There are lots and lots of industrial corporations and even alliances out there who would be happy to have you, and who in turn can feed you a steady supply of minerals for production, agreements with guaranteed buyers, and access to BPC libraries (don't ask for BPO access immediately - you'll look like a corp thief trying to run off with their lovingly researched BPOs).

Wow, lots of good information here. Learned quite a bit. I was under the assumption that making ships and selling them on the market would be as easy as it sounds, but it seems to be much more of a task. I was expecting to complete the BP so I have it permanent, then round up the materials, build, put on the market as a direct sell for profit.

And for the comment about separating my salvage from missions, is it really that big of a hit on time if I salvage as I destroy enemies on security missions? Just today I took out about 40 drones and salvaged them, made about 1.5 on the parts in 25 minutes time.

That is my belief, dont play for the moolah, but for the fun. So ive been enjoying the thrill of salvage as its like scratching lotto tickets because fairly often you pick a winner and find salvage worth 400k+. I also get a thrill out of warping to asteroids, swooping in and salvaging wrecks while people are mining. No one has attempted to attack me yet, but im hoping that changes as soon as Im well enough off to defend myself in pvp.

Excellent. I just started training my Production Effeciency (wow). I think I can find a good way to keep myself busy doing this as a trade

So I suppose the best next question to ask is, do the production efficiency and other manufacturing skills apply to making rigs as well as ships?

If so, killing two birds with one stone is fine. And as far as profitiabilty of either, I can be happy with making things for myself as long as Im saving ISK in the end