EVE General Discussion

One should never underestimate the power of greed. Its only natural to want more after getting a certain amount. You can effectively multiply the profits.

Not saying somer is doing it, just many speculations and rumors going around.

That statement is pretty much true, most of that ISK is really blink credit. Not to mention the values tend to be a bit bloated.

I bet on interceptors most of the time, when I win one, Blink considers that winning amount to be 20 million, when they are actually only 10-11 million, the winning amount is overinflated.

Asgera Yune - stay away from blink! Your post is so full of incorectenss, your learning curve would be too steep for you to overcome.
Half the tickets on a blink are not more expensive that the ship is on the market - at least I woudl be quite surprised to see that happen and would expect Blink to correct that when there are fast moving markets, like when the Nightmare fell about 300-350 million in a couple of weeks.

It does not take unlimited funds to buy half the tickets on a blink - players do get a lot of blink credit from achievemets. If you go on the site, look at the6 pages of award and the reward for each one. some are small, just 1 million like the one called "Baby's First Blink" which is awarded when a person plays their first blink, There are a lot of blinks for playing one blink a day for week and things like that. Again, if you go on the site, leave your wallet at home and just look around, ask questions and watch what goes on. If you feel uncomfortable at any time, please, just leave and you will have lost nothing

BTW Mega-blinks are not the most expensive blinks - Ultra-blinks are. An buying half of those tix on a blink does not taek unlimited funds.

As long as yuo keep getting the "word" from the source you apparently have been suing, you will stay confused about how the game works, so please stay away.

Did you know that in Blink, they gamble? and some people like to hedge their bets with more tickets - balancing the costs of tickets with the amount which can be won and how lucky they feel.

I would strongly encourage you, to seek deals on the market rather than try to win a ship you want thru gambling.

If you insist on coming on blink, join the somer blink chat and talk with players, asking questions and learning the mechanics of the games long before you ever put any isk at risk.

Good luck and good fortune

Adding my two cents


My personal ISK making strategy is to try and find a ship that's worth a bit more on market than blink have it listed.

The ticket price in blink is based off their listed buyout price. If the Jita price is a fair bit higher than the buyout price, you can end up with a much better prize value:ticket price ratio and make a decent profit


Also I prefer cashing out in ISK if I'm doing the buyout, then I deposit it straight back in. Sure you miss out on that 5%, but your ISK deposit achievement will go up a lot faster

*grabs a bag of popcorn*



still waiting on that API key ;)

Did you even read my response to your demand for my api key in my earlier post?

your question has been asked and answered - you will need more substantial food than popcorn.

quote=Ashera Yune]


Ariel, Somewhere in this pile I mentioned that all casinos advertise how much their customers have won, and leave out how much it cost them to win it. The metric Somer uses is "Value of Blink Credit Won" which is the total value of all the prizes a player has won and is not the total profit or the amount loss possibly sustained. In my case, that figure is something just over 5 trillion in the value of Blink credit won. Does that mean I am sitting on a pile of prizes worth 5T? That I really have over 200 Moros? No, that means I won it, but I recycled it to bet again. That 5T is not profit, it is a list of how many things you have won. it is a metric wihich RL casinos do not measure. It would be like a RL casino counting every winning hand you had and dismissing the losing hands. "Look At John Smith who won over $5,000 at our casino, and (cough) it only cost him (cough,cough) over $8 grand to do it!" is not a road side sign we we will ever see near a casino. I won a Moros, redeemed it for a generous blink credit plus 5% and even if I lost it all in two minutes the Moros is still listed as having been won, because I did win the Moros, but it does not mean that I still have the moros or the value of the moros in ISK.

To respond to Ashera's remark, I view the over the market value placed on prizes by Somer as generous and Ashera uses the terms bloated and over-inflated. I think they are generous becasue they give the player more blink credit to use in the game and even when the 5% bonus is not applied to a prize that is exchanged for isk, the player is receiving more Isk than the prize is worth on the market. At one point, I thought I would make a boatload of cash redeeming the prizes and selling them on the market but I never found a market where the prizes would bring a price greater than the Isk I received when I sold the prize to Somer for Isk. And for me to to sell the prize for a profit on the market, Somer would have to have valued the prize quite low to over come the tax and broker's fee that go along with selling on the market. So I don't see the higher than market valuations Somer places on the redeemed Isk value of the prizes with the negative connotations of bloated and over-inflated. On Wheel of Fortune, the "Brand New Car" the spinner wins is valued at sticker price and how many cars sell for sticker price? The higher than market value on the prize plus the 5% bonus for redeeming it for blink credit are marketing tools which keep players in the game and Somer from actually having to acquire and possibly transport the two hundred Moros I have won. Doesn't every business use marketing tools to keep you in the store and to lower their cost of doing business?

Add to that the value of the achievements. I have not totalled that amount of Blink credit I have received from the 167 achievements I have, but I did add up the 10 achievements I dont have which total 2 billlion and small change. Among the achievements I have won have been the five achievements I received for surpassing each of the 5 Trillion benchmarks, totals 14.999 billion alone, with a couple of dozen more at 1 billion or more. I will pick up another one is 4 days at 250 million. In total Somer has paid out 9.2 trillion in achievements. There is a lot of talk about how much Somer makes but little is said for how much she returns the players in achievements, minibonks from from free tokens and bonks that often return values greater than ticket sale totals. She also sponsors prizes for the alliance tournaments and I'm ashamed that I do not know the other major event she helps sponsor. The week long celebrations for the benchmarks, such as the 250T celebration we are having now are full of prize doublings, additional promo blinks which cost one free token to enter and may have a rorq, machariel, crusader (it is quite random) as the prize and every member who had been amember for over one week received a gift box with random gifts in them with the lowest being 5 million in blink credit, but ai have seen Legions and other ships in the scrolling of prizes and there are 47,875 blink accounts, Of course not all of them redeemed their gift boxes, but Somer was prepared to payout to all but the relative few who just joined.

Somer has never offered to double anyone's Isk, sold 1 plex for the price of 2, claimed to be quitting for years to get a handful of isk in exchange for a piece of trit or sold a regular apoc as a navy apoc. The door is open, anyone can come in and look around and ask questions to the real people who are there to play, like me. It is gambling and those who don't know when to quit can lose a lot if they decide to try to bet their way through a losing streak which is always a bad mistake they refuse to admit.

First, understand this - I do not "gotta" do anything for you.

You want me to hold your hand while I read it to you and chew your popcorn for you, too? Any shoes need shining, lawn cutting?

This is one of the things in your life you will have to do on your own.

Let's see ... how many others have reported difficulty with this,,,,,,, oh, that would be none.

I will give you a hint and maybe you can do a search. Try to make a friend who can explain how to do a search.

"Would you offer up your main's API every time you express an opinion on the forums?"

Here is a bonus one.

"Have you done a contract search on me? All prizes the player wants to keep come from Blink in a contract."

See, these are easy ways people can find out pertinent answers. You could petition me, Blink, and everyone associated with Blink, including all of the 47,875 blink account holders and let the GMs go thru everything. The GMs would have a better idea of how the game is played than anyone you think has made a allegation - still waiting for a credible allegtion instead of unsubstantiated accusations, out of context quotes and screen shots which could have been taken of hundreds or even thousands of other regular players like me who happened to get lucky and win a few nice ones within a short amount of time. The record clearly shows that I've lost a whole lot more than I've won.

Have you looked at the information available on Blink's main stats page about me? Have you clicked on my avatar from that stats page and seen a whole page of information about my activities in Blink? Do you know I have physical impairments in the lower half of body which llimit my mobility thus giving me a great deal of time to pay the game - is that any of your Fu ck ing business? Have you ever lost an Isk to me? Have you ever had any contact with me other than this forum and whatever crap you may have read about me which may or may not be true? Have you blindly accepted what you may have read about me while you expect me to provide the details of this character's entire game experience? What stake do you have in this other than your personal nosiness? Have you considered the impact on the many, many people I have represented as a mediator in deals in which they wanted to remain anonymous? Who the hell are you to ask to see my API? Petition me or just go away.

I hope you find good fortune and good health, but I'm sure as hell not handing out my API to some looky loo in a forum post for all of Eve to see. When you pass an automobile accident, do you stop and ask the drivers for license, registration proof of insurance and urine sample? Who the hell do you think you are, anyway?

Hey Feanos, nice to see you outside of Blink/

Somewhere in this forest of pixels I've stated that since winning my bet, my strategy will change and definetely will be fewer tix.

The 12 of 16 is a good way to win yourself broke and now that I don't have a juicy bet waiting at the end of the rainbow, I have to concentrate on conserving capital. I do know one of the dumbest things any gambler can do is try to outlast a streak of losses. With my 12 of 16 strategy, my rule was three straight losses and I walk away. Later, I would "measure Lady Luck's favor" for me by testing the waters with the same strategy with much less expensive prizes keeping the 75% ticket ratio by buying 6 of 8. If the Lady wasn't ready for me, I'd take another break. It takes a real fool to just stay there pouring Isk down a hole trying to bet their way through a losing streak, but you see people who don't know what they are doing try that all the time and then get all butthurt thinking they got scammed when they just can't walk away. The "I'm bound to hit next time" message people get in their heads shows their lack of understand of the theory of probability which can be pretty stubborn and keep you losing for a long time.

You know that you are one of the of the players I always liked to avoid, because our styles were similar. I had to get 12 tix because every loss was nearly devastating and anyone who I knew to want more than 2tix was scary to me.

I always found you to be a good player who never did any of little things one player can do to another to throw to throw them off their concentration.

I'll miss seeing you around, but understand your reasons. I'll most likely have the same reasons soon myself

Good fortune and good health to you

No scam.

I set aside 1b ISK to try it out once, tried it out and I'm 1.2B ISK up on it and decided to quit while ahead.

I can see how people try to rig it but its no different really to spread betting which can be rigged but even then there is a chance you can lose, even if you buy 50% of the tickets.