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Sanitation Engineer
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-06 03:52:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sanitation Engineer
With some recent futzing around this exploit was discovered.

A person with decent/high faction standings (from mission running)

This person had a mining fleet, with advert up for corp/alliance/minimum standings all to GOOD.

A member of a Factional Warfare corporation was able to join said mining fleet (this happened about a month ago) for some unknown reason. This was written off and forgot about.

A couple nights ago, a small fleet with a person with good factional standings had Factional Warfare people JOIN HIS FLEET and warp directly to a safe spot almost immediately.

As a baseline test.

A fleet was made. The person running said fleet had 7+ Factional Standings.

A known person in a Faction Warfare corporation who had his corp and personal settings to -5, to the FC, the Corp and the Alliance.

This person was still able to arbitrarily see and join a fleet anyway.

I was wondering if CCP was aware of this issue, as well as what kind of impact this also may have had during Hulkageddon. Being able to just join a miners fleet, warp directly on top of them at 0 and open a gang ****.

So CCP? What's the story? I have screenshots as proof.

hugs and kisses,
Your Friendly Neighborhood Garbage Man
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-07-06 03:57:18 UTC
What part of that is an exploit?
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#3 - 2012-07-06 03:59:05 UTC
/popcorn
Sanitation Engineer
Doomheim
#4 - 2012-07-06 04:00:22 UTC
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
What part of that is an exploit?


The player has 7+ standings from mission running. The corporation and player who joined the fleet was -5 to corp/person/alliance.

And was still able to join a fleet requiring "GOOD" standings.
Sierra Skyy
Mining Missioning And Cargo Security Services
#5 - 2012-07-06 04:00:32 UTC
FYI: Taken from the Forum Rules here - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules


13. Do not post about bugs and exploits.

Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department. You can find the form here. Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.



Just so ya know...
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-07-06 04:01:43 UTC
dirty pirates

~ Professional Forum Alt  ~
Sanitation Engineer
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-07-06 04:02:29 UTC
Sierra Skyy wrote:
FYI: Taken from the Forum Rules here - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules


13. Do not post about bugs and exploits.

Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department. You can find the form here. Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.



Just so ya know...


Maybe it's just an undocumented Feature CCP slipped in and I would like clarification on it.
Sierra Skyy
Mining Missioning And Cargo Security Services
#8 - 2012-07-06 04:07:30 UTC
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
Sierra Skyy wrote:
FYI: Taken from the Forum Rules here - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules


13. Do not post about bugs and exploits.

Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department. You can find the form here. Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.



Just so ya know...


Maybe it's just an undocumented Feature CCP slipped in and I would like clarification on it.


OK then. I kinda think they were suggesting you get that "clarification" privately - like through the form they suggest in said rule...
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#9 - 2012-07-06 04:07:39 UTC
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
Sierra Skyy wrote:
FYI: Taken from the Forum Rules here - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules


13. Do not post about bugs and exploits.

Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department. You can find the form here. Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.



Just so ya know...


Maybe it's just an undocumented Feature CCP slipped in and I would like clarification on it.


hence the title...Roll
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
#10 - 2012-07-06 04:08:55 UTC
Get some of your corp mates to do this. Then you can snitch on them and make an easy PLEX.

Signature removed for inappropriate language - CCP Eterne
Sanitation Engineer
Doomheim
#11 - 2012-07-06 04:10:06 UTC
Morganta wrote:
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
Sierra Skyy wrote:
FYI: Taken from the Forum Rules here - http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules


13. Do not post about bugs and exploits.

Bugs and exploits should be reported through the proper method by filing a report for our Quality Assurance department. You can find the form here. Discussions about unverified problems in the game can cause unnecessary panic in the community. When there is an issue the community needs to be aware of, we will make an official statement about it.



Just so ya know...


Maybe it's just an undocumented Feature CCP slipped in and I would like clarification on it.


hence the title...Roll


well, they'll either lock it and make it go away on their own account.
T' Elk
Strategically Bad
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2012-07-06 04:15:25 UTC
Blame the goons.

~Badposter since FOOOOREEEEEVAAAAAR~ I come back after 2 years to THIS? ~Now 4 years apparently
Pipa Porto
#13 - 2012-07-06 06:32:29 UTC
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
What part of that is an exploit?


The player has 7+ standings from mission running. The corporation and player who joined the fleet was -5 to corp/person/alliance.

And was still able to join a fleet requiring "GOOD" standings.


I'm still not particularly clear on what happened.

So someone in the Caldari Militia set someone who is a Friend to the Caldari State red, and the Friend of the Caldari state could join the fleet made by the militia member?

Did the person who made the fleet remember to check the Use Personal Standings checkbox?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Sanitation Engineer
Doomheim
#14 - 2012-07-06 06:43:38 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
What part of that is an exploit?


The player has 7+ standings from mission running. The corporation and player who joined the fleet was -5 to corp/person/alliance.

And was still able to join a fleet requiring "GOOD" standings.


I'm still not particularly clear on what happened.

So someone in the Caldari Militia set someone who is a Friend to the Caldari State red, and the Friend of the Caldari state could join the fleet made by the militia member?

Did the person who made the fleet remember to check the Use Personal Standings checkbox?


A FW person was able to join a regular joe blows fleet. Militia corp was set -5.0 personally, corporation, alliance. FW person could still see and join fleets. Regardless of standings because this person had run lots of missions and had faction standings above 5.0.
Norrin Ellis
Doomheim
#15 - 2012-07-06 06:50:16 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Get some of your corp mates to do this. Then you can snitch on them and make an easy PLEX.


That's so Goon.

CEO, Venture Racing

Manager, EVE Online Hold'Em
Pipa Porto
#16 - 2012-07-06 06:54:01 UTC
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:
What part of that is an exploit?


The player has 7+ standings from mission running. The corporation and player who joined the fleet was -5 to corp/person/alliance.

And was still able to join a fleet requiring "GOOD" standings.


I'm still not particularly clear on what happened.

So someone in the Caldari Militia set someone who is a Friend to the Caldari State red, and the Friend of the Caldari state could join the fleet made by the militia member?

Did the person who made the fleet remember to check the Use Personal Standings checkbox?


A FW person was able to join a regular joe blows fleet. Militia corp was set -5.0 personally, corporation, alliance. FW person could still see and join fleets. Regardless of standings because this person had run lots of missions and had faction standings above 5.0.



That's a hundred percent wacky right there.

I'd file a bug report and petition. Mainly a bug report, cause that sounds a lot like a bug.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Signal11th
#17 - 2012-07-06 08:40:48 UTC
Sanitation Engineer wrote:
With some recent futzing around this exploit was discovered.

A person with decent/high faction standings (from mission running)

This person had a mining fleet, with advert up for corp/alliance/minimum standings all to GOOD.

A member of a Factional Warfare corporation was able to join said mining fleet (this happened about a month ago) for some unknown reason. This was written off and forgot about.

A couple nights ago, a small fleet with a person with good factional standings had Factional Warfare people JOIN HIS FLEET and warp directly to a safe spot almost immediately.

As a baseline test.

A fleet was made. The person running said fleet had 7+ Factional Standings.

A known person in a Faction Warfare corporation who had his corp and personal settings to -5, to the FC, the Corp and the Alliance.

This person was still able to arbitrarily see and join a fleet anyway.

I was wondering if CCP was aware of this issue, as well as what kind of impact this also may have had during Hulkageddon. Being able to just join a miners fleet, warp directly on top of them at 0 and open a gang ****.

So CCP? What's the story? I have screenshots as proof.

hugs and kisses,
Your Friendly Neighborhood Garbage Man



CCP I provide the above proof that this chap has been using an exploit of some kind!, Under the CCP scheme for snitches and bad posters I claim PLEX please!!!

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#18 - 2012-07-06 09:03:53 UTC
CAME IN EXPECTING EXPLOIT OF WAY TO MAKES TRILLIONS OF ISK.....


thread only mentions a small bug....


LEAVES DISAPOINT.
Goremageddon Box
Guerrilla Flotilla
#19 - 2012-07-06 09:07:50 UTC
Norrin Ellis wrote:
rodyas wrote:
Get some of your corp mates to do this. Then you can snitch on them and make an easy PLEX.


That's so Goon.


They'll always be remembered as snitches.

Even if they did it to their own alts.

Snitch.
ISD Stensson
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2012-07-06 10:31:53 UTC
Please use proper method for reporting exploits to Quality Assurance department. The proper way is filling this form.

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