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Why do you alt post?

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Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#201 - 2012-07-06 00:06:41 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Or a self-flagellating BDSM/Public Humiliation freak.
I notice you haven't answered my question.

I notice you haven't provided any proof for your claims.


I'm asking you (and deadtear) a question. You can refuse to answer of course, but don't attempt to straw-man an evasion. That would be silly.

So what you're saying is, when you keep slandering yourself and blaming us for something you claim happened 4 years ago, you have absolutely no proof, and as such GSF can claim that you're wilfully slandering us (and yourself)?

I see.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#202 - 2012-07-06 00:12:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Lord Zim wrote:
So what you're saying is, when you keep slandering yourself and blaming us for something you claim happened 4 years ago, you have absolutely no proof, and as such GSF can claim that you're wilfully slandering us (and yourself)?I see.


On the contrary ... what I am saying is

Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


Its not a complicated question. Why not take a shot at answering it (or maybe ask a Goon character who can answer the question if you are claiming you didn't spend the last couple of years composing forum trolling from the cliff notes available at that post.)

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#203 - 2012-07-06 00:18:49 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
So what you're saying is, when you keep slandering yourself and blaming us for something you claim happened 4 years ago, you have absolutely no proof, and as such GSF can claim that you're wilfully slandering us (and yourself)?I see.


On the contrary ... what I am saying is

that you're slandering yourself and claiming we did something 4 years ago, and have absolutely nothing to prove this, and as such are slandering our good name and reputation.

You're the accuser, provide proof.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Pipa Porto
#204 - 2012-07-06 00:22:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Pipa Porto
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
So what you're saying is, when you keep slandering yourself and blaming us for something you claim happened 4 years ago, you have absolutely no proof, and as such GSF can claim that you're wilfully slandering us (and yourself)?I see.


On the contrary ... what I am saying is

Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


Its not a complicated question. Why not take a shot at answering it (or maybe ask a Goon character who can answer the question if you are claiming you didn't spent the last couple of years composing forum trolling from the cliff notes available at that post.)


Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise, there is a strong basis to assume that two sites on unrelated domain names, owned through unrelated registrars are in fact, unrelated.

For instance, even though yahoo.com and google.com have a similar piece of content in common, they're probably not related.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#205 - 2012-07-06 00:22:48 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
You're the accuser, provide proof.


I'm asking you a question (its not a complicated one) answer it or not, public opinion will decide how credible you end up looking.

Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


At this stage failing to answer and flailing madly with evasions just makes you look like you have something to hide or be guilty about. Just come clean, be honest and answer the question.


The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#206 - 2012-07-06 00:24:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Pipa Porto wrote:
Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise, there is a strong basis to assume that two sites on unrelated domain names, owned through unrelated registrars are in fact, unrelated.


Nobody really gives that much credence to what an alt thinks (sorry to be blunt but there it is) I'm asking the guy a question. He can give a simple "yes" or "no" or even "I don't know" answer.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Pipa Porto
#207 - 2012-07-06 00:25:54 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
You're the accuser, provide proof.


I'm asking you a question (its not a complicated one) answer it or not, public opinion will decide how credible you end up looking.

Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


At this stage failing to answer and flailing madly with evasions just makes you look like you have something to hide or be guilty about. Just come clean, be honest and answer the question.


Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for? If you want to compel someone to provide you with evidence, you have to come up with some basis for that evidence being likely to exist.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Pipa Porto
#208 - 2012-07-06 00:27:27 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Unless you have some evidence to suggest otherwise, there is a strong basis to assume that two sites on unrelated domain names, owned through unrelated registrars are in fact, unrelated.


Nobody really gives that much credence to what an alt thinks (sorry to be blunt but there it is) I'm asking the guy a question. He can give a simple "yes" or "no" or even "I don't know" answer.


So that's a "No, I don't have any evidence to suggest otherwise," then?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#209 - 2012-07-06 00:29:08 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for? If you want to compel someone to provide you with evidence, you have to come up with some basis for that evidence being likely to exist.


I can't "compel" anyone to do anything on an internet forum. I can simply ask a reasonable question and if the question is not answered then people will draw certain conclusions from the failure to answer said question. Its not a complicated question. He can even say he doesn't have a clue and doesn't know!

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#210 - 2012-07-06 00:29:33 UTC
I was prepared to blame myself for derailing this thread, but in fact it is Lapine Davion's fault. For shame! Post with your main!
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#211 - 2012-07-06 00:30:39 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
You're the accuser, provide proof.

I'm asking you a question (its not a complicated one) answer it or not, public opinion will decide how credible you end up looking.

And I'm asking you a question, do you have proof of what you claim goonswarm did to you 4 years ago, or are you just slandering yourself to slander us?

Jade Constantine wrote:
Nobody really gives that much credence to what an alt thinks (sorry to be blunt but there it is) I'm asking the guy a question. He can give a simple "yes" or "no" or even "I don't know" answer.

The only one saying I'm an alt here, is you. And right now, watching you squirm desperately after an answer, while desperately avoiding providing proof of goonswarm even doing what you're slandering yourself to claim we did, is a lot more fun than actually giving an answer.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Pipa Porto
#212 - 2012-07-06 00:31:13 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for? If you want to compel someone to provide you with evidence, you have to come up with some basis for that evidence being likely to exist.


I can't "compel" anyone to do anything on an internet forum. I can simply ask a reasonable question and if the question is not answered then people will draw certain conclusions from the failure to answer said question. Its not a complicated question. He can even say he doesn't have a clue and doesn't know!


I asked a simple question. Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for?
It's not a complicated question.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#213 - 2012-07-06 00:32:55 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
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Only thing I'm interested in reading from you is an answer to my question or an admission that you simply "don't know."

Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


Do get on with i!

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Betrinna Cantis
#214 - 2012-07-06 00:33:07 UTC
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
CEO rules. Does not want unnecessary attention drawn to the corp.

I'm sure there a plenty of others that post for anonymity, high profile people Sewell.

Same

Alts have been changed to protect the Innocent. You may have mistaken me for someone who cares.....

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#215 - 2012-07-06 00:34:30 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
I asked a simple question. Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for? It's not a complicated question.


Post with your main and I'll be happy to answer your question!

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#216 - 2012-07-06 00:35:21 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
snipped


Only thing I'm interested in reading from you is an answer to my question or an admission that you simply "don't know."

Jade Constantine wrote:
Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


Do get on with i!

Guess I'll be having a chat with our lawyers about someone slandering us, then. I'm sure they'll giggle when we tell them you've basically been running a slander crusade against yourself at the same time.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#217 - 2012-07-06 00:37:25 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Guess I'll be having a chat with our lawyers about someone slandering us, then. I'm sure they'll giggle when we tell them you've basically been running a slander crusade against yourself at the same time.


So you'd rather talk to the goonswarm "lawyers" than answer my question. LOL - you guys, you make me laugh! Ah dear, I can't stay angry with such complete muppets for too long Big smile

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Pipa Porto
#218 - 2012-07-06 00:40:20 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
I asked a simple question. Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for? It's not a complicated question.


Post with your main and I'll be happy to answer your question!


It goes clicky when I do that, but I've got him linked in my Sig. Why is it that you can't answer a simple question just because someone's main didn't ask it?

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#219 - 2012-07-06 00:51:29 UTC
Pipa Porto wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Pipa Porto wrote:
I asked a simple question. Do you have any factual basis to believe that such a records check would reveal the evidence you're fishing for? It's not a complicated question.


Post with your main and I'll be happy to answer your question!


It goes clicky when I do that, but I've got him linked in my Sig. Why is it that you can't answer a simple question just because someone's main didn't ask it?


Well mainly because one has to assume that npc alts are just spoiler characters on the side of the enemy. I honestly don't have much respect for players who hide their identity behind alts so don't take their questions as seriously as main characters.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Dave stark
#220 - 2012-07-06 00:53:45 UTC
i refuse to alt post.

i'm too lazy to change the posting thingy to an alt.

being lazy, yeah!