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Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#181 - 2012-07-05 22:11:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Lapine Davion
Jade Constantine wrote:
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Nice demonstration of alt use to support one's own argument for the thread Cool

Jesus, does anyone read sigs? First DMC, now you... I also answered why on the first page. Roll

Jade Constantine wrote:
But really, "zim" cannot be correct unless he proves his earlier assertion that the goon wiki mirror at http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Main_Page.html was not at one point an accurate copy of the goonwiki at the current site.

If it was, at one point, an accurate copy, so what? As I understand, it was originally a private site so they can say whatever the **** they want on it; it's entirely for their members.



If it was an accurate copy then it means "zim" has been telling fibs on this thread. He's basically saying the crackerjax one was not an accurate mirror and denying the page slandering me there with a RL picture was present in the goon original.

Now he decided to come clean and post "hey it was a private site and we can post what the heck we want about other eve players there" then that's one thing.

I might still take exception to the criminal slander of course, but at least there wouldn't be so much lying about the situation.




I can accurately say for sure that what is contained on that crackerjax site as of this posting is not what has been on your Goonwiki page for the last few months at least. The one on the Goonwiki page is much more "entertaining" because it has a few choice quotes by you about "Goons cosplaying as bees" or something like that.

But i really don't know who owns that crackerjax site. I can't say for sure it isn't owned by a Goon, but i do know that no one has come forward to claim it.

How hey, some poking around on the crackerjax.org site about you that you linked earlier in the thread shows this:
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This page was last modified on 25 March 2009, at 22:31.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#182 - 2012-07-05 22:13:38 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
What I'm saying is that the crackerjax site isn't a goon site, and I'm not going to vouch in any way, shape or form for its content, and that for all we know it's something you've fabricated to slander goonswarm over something you claim happened 4 years ago.


So you should be able to answer the question I asked you regarding the content of this allegedly "non goon site" as to whether it accurately replicates "mirrors" the official goon wiki up to a certain date. Ask around, ask your fellow goons, by all means produce some evidence by way of a web-cached copy or the edit notes on the actual page on the goon wiki. In fact anything other than simply claiming its some kind of strange conspiracy and pretending such a site appears from nothing.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#183 - 2012-07-05 22:15:31 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Nice demonstration of alt use to support one's own argument for the thread Cool

Jesus, does anyone read sigs? First DMC, now you... I also answered why on the first page. Roll

Jade Constantine wrote:
But really, "zim" cannot be correct unless he proves his earlier assertion that the goon wiki mirror at http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Main_Page.html was not at one point an accurate copy of the goonwiki at the current site.

If it was, at one point, an accurate copy, so what? As I understand, it was originally a private site so they can say whatever the **** they want on it; it's entirely for their members.



If it was an accurate copy then it means "zim" has been telling fibs on this thread. He's basically saying the crackerjax one was not an accurate mirror and denying the page slandering me there with a RL picture was present in the goon original.

Now he decided to come clean and post "hey it was a private site and we can post what the heck we want about other eve players there" then that's one thing.

I might still take exception to the criminal slander of course, but at least there wouldn't be so much lying about the situation.




I can accurately say for sure that what is contained on that crackerjax site as of this posting is not what has been on your Goonwiki page for the last few months at least. The one on the Goonwiki page is much more "entertaining" because it has a few choice quotes by you about "Goons cosplaying as bees" or something like that.


Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#184 - 2012-07-05 22:18:01 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:


Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?

Why would i give out non-public information from our wiki and risk myself getting banned? Why would Zim?

Edit: Also, you can stop saying "Zim". Zim is a main.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#185 - 2012-07-05 22:22:34 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:


Can you answer the question I asked of "zim" though. Does the "crackerjax site" represent an accurate picture of how the goonwiki site used to look at some point in the past? If you can't answer the question can you produce a goonswarm character who does remember looking at it perhaps?


Why would i give out non-public information from our wiki and risk myself getting banned? Why would Zim?
Edit: Also, you can stop saying "Zim". Zim is a main.


I don't really understand why you would risk getting banned simply for confirming that a public mirror of a private website contained an accurate copy of a website designed to smear an enemy player at some point in the past.

As for "zim" - he's already confirmed he's an alt. His main character is a mass fleet fight character in the CFC. I use the quotes to denote this so that its clear I don't afford this current posting identity particular status or recognition as an individual eve player.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Pipa Porto
#186 - 2012-07-05 22:29:05 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
What I'm saying is that the crackerjax site isn't a goon site, and I'm not going to vouch in any way, shape or form for its content, and that for all we know it's something you've fabricated to slander goonswarm over something you claim happened 4 years ago.


So you should be able to answer the question I asked you regarding the content of this allegedly "non goon site" as to whether it accurately replicates "mirrors" the official goon wiki up to a certain date. Ask around, ask your fellow goons, by all means produce some evidence by way of a web-cached copy or the edit notes on the actual page on the goon wiki. In fact anything other than simply claiming its some kind of strange conspiracy and pretending such a site appears from nothing.



You still have not shown any evidence that Crackerjacks was at any point an accurate mirror of any other site, as you Claim.

You make the claim, You provide the evidence.

EvE: Everyone vs Everyone

-RubyPorto
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#187 - 2012-07-05 22:29:14 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
So you should be able to answer the question I asked you regarding the content of this allegedly "non goon site" as to whether it accurately replicates "mirrors" the official goon wiki up to a certain date. Ask around, ask your fellow goons, by all means produce some evidence by way of a web-cached copy or the edit notes on the actual page on the goon wiki. In fact anything other than simply claiming its some kind of strange conspiracy and pretending such a site appears from nothing.

How about you provide proof of what you claim goons have done to you, since you seem adamant to slander yourself in public, repeatedly, and then blame goonswarm?

Jade Constantine wrote:
As for "zim" - he's already confirmed he's an alt.

Nope.

Jade Constantine wrote:
His main character is a mass fleet fight character in the CFC.

Nope.

Jade Constantine wrote:
I use the quotes to denote this so that its clear I don't afford this current posting identity particular status or recognition as an individual eve player.

You do realize that you look like a petulent child when you do this, right?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#188 - 2012-07-05 22:40:10 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
So you should be able to answer the question I asked you regarding the content of this allegedly "non goon site" as to whether it accurately replicates "mirrors" the official goon wiki up to a certain date. Ask around, ask your fellow goons, by all means produce some evidence by way of a web-cached copy or the edit notes on the actual page on the goon wiki. In fact anything other than simply claiming its some kind of strange conspiracy and pretending such a site appears from nothing.

How about you provide proof of what you claim goons have done to you, since you seem adamant to slander yourself in public, repeatedly, and then blame goonswarm?

Jade Constantine wrote:
As for "zim" - he's already confirmed he's an alt.

Nope.

Jade Constantine wrote:
His main character is a mass fleet fight character in the CFC.

Nope.

Jade Constantine wrote:
I use the quotes to denote this so that its clear I don't afford this current posting identity particular status or recognition as an individual eve player.

You do realize that you look like a petulent child when you do this, right?


Or a -snip-

Off topic and personal attack post has been edited.

ISD Tyrozan

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Price Check Aisle3
#189 - 2012-07-05 23:09:35 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
confirming that a public mirror of a private website contained an accurate copy of a website designed to smear an enemy player at some point in the past.

Designed to smear an enemy privately. If it's such a big deal now that it's out in the open, you need to contact the maintainer of the mirror site because the Goons likely have nothing to do with it.
  • Karl Hobb IATS
Triskian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#190 - 2012-07-05 23:26:48 UTC
I post with my main mostly, sometimes I'll altpost, but all of my alts are in GSF so it's not like I'm trying to hide alliegences, if I altpost it's to troll.

People who exclusively altpost are likely all dropouts from the H Ratli Smirks School of Good Posting.
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#191 - 2012-07-05 23:36:26 UTC
Triskian wrote:


People who exclusively altpost are likely all dropouts from the H Ratli Smirks School of Good Posting.


FYP

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Sam Ruger
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#192 - 2012-07-05 23:44:14 UTC
Linna Excel wrote:
Because this was my first char and I was too lazy to pick another to post with?



I'm glad I'm not the only one that lazy.
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#193 - 2012-07-05 23:53:16 UTC
My accounts keep getting banned.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2012-07-05 23:54:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
To respond to the OP:

I started alt posting due to taking the reputation of this game perhaps a bit too seriously in some respects. The "harsh cruel universe" that is eve was never the drawing point for me to this game and as such I became rather paranoid that my opinions would be rather unpopular and prone to retaliation in the infamous meta game.

By the time my fears proved to be not entirely justified I'd already associated my identity as a poster with this character and felt it would be detrimental to change since I did what to retain what little reputation I had accumulated.

That said, this character isn't so much an alt as a second main in some capacities now.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#195 - 2012-07-05 23:59:08 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
Or a self-flagellating BDSM/Public Humiliation freak.


I notice you haven't answered my question.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#196 - 2012-07-05 23:59:49 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Or a self-flagellating BDSM/Public Humiliation freak.
I notice you haven't answered my question.

I notice you haven't provided any proof for your claims.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#197 - 2012-07-06 00:00:16 UTC
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
confirming that a public mirror of a private website contained an accurate copy of a website designed to smear an enemy player at some point in the past.

Designed to smear an enemy privately. If it's such a big deal now that it's out in the open, you need to contact the maintainer of the mirror site because the Goons likely have nothing to do with it.


I think its highly unlikely that the "goons" have nothing to do with it - but rest assured I have contacted the domain provider with a complaint over the content of the site.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#198 - 2012-07-06 00:01:33 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Or a self-flagellating BDSM/Public Humiliation freak.
I notice you haven't answered my question.

I notice you haven't provided any proof for your claims.


I'm asking you (and deadtear) a question. You can refuse to answer of course, but don't attempt to straw-man an evasion. That would be silly.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#199 - 2012-07-06 00:03:12 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Or a self-flagellating BDSM/Public Humiliation freak.
I notice you haven't answered my question.

I notice you haven't provided any proof for your claims.


I'm asking you (and deadtear) a question. You can refuse to answer of course, but don't attempt to straw-man an evasion. That would be silly.


I'll bet you and Xenuria get along real well.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#200 - 2012-07-06 00:05:48 UTC
Emperor Salazar wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lapine Davion wrote:
Or a self-flagellating BDSM/Public Humiliation freak.
I notice you haven't answered my question.

I notice you haven't provided any proof for your claims.


I'm asking you (and deadtear) a question. You can refuse to answer of course, but don't attempt to straw-man an evasion. That would be silly.


I'll bet you and Xenuria get along real well.


I've never spoken to Xenuria. Know absolutely nothing about that person (and unlike certain goons I could mention) have no desire whatsoever to go hunting through somebodies facebook and rl dating records to e-stalk my way to an e-conviction for forum points.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom