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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#121 - 2012-07-05 15:17:49 UTC  |  Edited by: corestwo
I really don't see in our wiki, our actual, goon controlled wiki, where Jade is called a pedo. Perhaps he should be reported for spreading rumors.


e: To the topic of the thread, as far as the rest of Eve is concerned, this is my main. 80m SP characters that I'm logged into on a daily basis and often play on more than my "real main" hardly can be called "alts" anyway.

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fofofo
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#122 - 2012-07-05 15:19:29 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Remove which website? the crackerjax one? Sorry, no can do, it's not my site. And at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was your site, designed to smear us, given the gusto with which you keep posting it.


Wow, and you accuse me of wearing a tinfoil hat - that's a pretty wild accusation you have going there ...

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#123 - 2012-07-05 15:19:40 UTC
why not

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corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#124 - 2012-07-05 15:20:52 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Remove which website? the crackerjax one? Sorry, no can do, it's not my site. And at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was your site, designed to smear us, given the gusto with which you keep posting it.


Wow, and you accuse me of wearing a tinfoil hat - that's a pretty wild accusation you have going there ...


Doesn't sound any more or less wild than claiming that CCP changed the wardec system at the express request of nullsec alliances.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

fofofo
Bootleg Jack
ACME Mineral and Gas
#125 - 2012-07-05 15:21:47 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
You hear it all the time. "Post with your main". I know I do, and I have good reasons for doing so. The main one is building an "e-Personality". People know who I am, what I think, and what to expect from me -- and if they don't, it's easy to find out. It's also to help friends join discussions that are ongoing. "Check this out, I am actually Alt AbcXyz here" just seems like the wrong way to go about things. Plus, alts are not taken as seriously, even if their contribution to the discussion is perfectly valid.

So, with that in mind, I would like to ask: Why do you alt post? Or, if you main-post, why do you think others alt post?

Is it paranoia? Or, in more nasty terms, cowardice? Is in-game retribution for forum actions really that prevalent? Is the risk of some people not liking you that high? Or is it something else?

Discuss. (Sorry, couldn't help myself)


Because I get extra tears for posting, like these ^

I'm an American, English is my second language...
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#126 - 2012-07-05 15:23:12 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Remove which website? the crackerjax one? Sorry, no can do, it's not my site. And at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was your site, designed to smear us, given the gusto with which you keep posting it.

Wow, and you accuse me of wearing a tinfoil hat - that's a pretty wild accusation you have going there ...

As opposed to "hey guys guys goons are saying I'm a pedo and a million other bad things here's a link to a website which contains something which nobody can verify"?

Yeah, pretty wild accusation, given the gusto with which you keep posting it, again and again and again and again.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#127 - 2012-07-05 15:24:28 UTC
corestwo wrote:
Doesn't sound any more or less wild than claiming that CCP changed the wardec system at the express request of nullsec alliances.

Or keeping claiming that, 3 weeks after CCP, CSM and various goon directors have told him that that's an incorrect assumption on his part at every level.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#128 - 2012-07-05 15:25:08 UTC
I don't.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#129 - 2012-07-05 15:32:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Constantine
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Remove which website? the crackerjax one? Sorry, no can do, it's not my site. And at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was your site, designed to smear us, given the gusto with which you keep posting it.

Wow, and you accuse me of wearing a tinfoil hat - that's a pretty wild accusation you have going there ...

As opposed to "hey guys guys goons are saying I'm a pedo and a million other bad things here's a link to a website which contains something which nobody can verify"?

Yeah, pretty wild accusation, given the gusto with which you keep posting it, again and again and again and again.



So just for the record. Are you claiming now that the:

http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Jade_Constantine.html page was NOT copied from the "official" goonwiki site and that page with my RL picture and accusations was not at any time hosted on the "official" goon-controlled site https://wiki.goonfleet.com ?

Would just like to get your denial in writing for posterity.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#130 - 2012-07-05 15:38:16 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
The main one is building an "e-Personality".


Heh... you love Facebook and Twitter, dontcha? Lol Admit it, you're one of those people that FB hours a day,aren't ya? (Don't bother answering, I doubt I'll get an honest answer).

Me, I post with this alt because I KNOW it annoys those of the "poast with yer main!" camp; these are pretty much the same people who insist you play THEIR game, not your own. Who insist you use THEIR fit, rather than use your own imagination. Who insist you calculate your costs according to THEIR rules, rather than what it actually costs. (Cue the "mined minerals are free" flame-war)

Relevant, informative, and ACCURATE posts here are what matters, and not the name or age of the toon doing the posting. Silly boy... ;-)
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#131 - 2012-07-05 15:45:18 UTC
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
Remove which website? the crackerjax one? Sorry, no can do, it's not my site. And at this point I wouldn't be surprised if it was your site, designed to smear us, given the gusto with which you keep posting it.

Wow, and you accuse me of wearing a tinfoil hat - that's a pretty wild accusation you have going there ...

As opposed to "hey guys guys goons are saying I'm a pedo and a million other bad things here's a link to a website which contains something which nobody can verify"?

Yeah, pretty wild accusation, given the gusto with which you keep posting it, again and again and again and again.



So just for the record. Are you claiming now that the:

http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Jade_Constantine.html page was NOT copied from the "official" goonwiki site and that page with my RL picture and accusations was not at any time hosted on the "official" goon-controlled site https://wiki.goonfleet.com ?

Would just like to get your denial in writing for posterity.


So you're just going to ignore what I did for you completely huh? I'm of half a mind to go and make your Goonwiki page worse now.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#132 - 2012-07-05 15:49:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Lord Zim
Jade Constantine wrote:
So just for the record. Are you claiming now that the:

http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Jade_Constantine.html page was NOT copied from the "official" goonwiki site and that page with my RL picture and accusations was not at any time hosted on the "official" goon-controlled site https://wiki.goonfleet.com ?

Would just like to get your denial in writing for posterity.

How would I know? I didn't check the wiki until the first thread you derailed, repeatedly, by constantly spamming the crackerjax link, which was 2-3 weeks ago. And the wiki entry looks nothing like that.

What's next, a "so mittani, when did you stop beating your wife?" smear, since you love him so much?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
#133 - 2012-07-05 15:58:02 UTC
Katja Faith wrote:
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
The main one is building an "e-Personality".


Heh... you love Facebook and Twitter, dontcha? Lol Admit it, you're one of those people that FB hours a day,aren't ya? (Don't bother answering, I doubt I'll get an honest answer).

Me, I post with this alt because I KNOW it annoys those of the "poast with yer main!" camp; these are pretty much the same people who insist you play THEIR game, not your own. Who insist you use THEIR fit, rather than use your own imagination. Who insist you calculate your costs according to THEIR rules, rather than what it actually costs. (Cue the "mined minerals are free" flame-war)

Relevant, informative, and ACCURATE posts here are what matters, and not the name or age of the toon doing the posting. Silly boy... ;-)

I actually do not use FB for hours a day (hardly once a month, if that). Twitter, even less.

I don't think the problem is that alts don't have relevant, informative, or accurate posts. It's that, when the information is subjective or debatable, reputation and credibility are required to not simply dismiss the claim. It's why people don't even conceive believing or even taking seriously a tabloid that says "peanut butter cures cancer", but they would seriously lend the matter somethought if a scientific journal said the same thing.

Still, that's not usually what "post with your main" means. It's usually not "you are not a credible source", but rather "your arguments seem to have a hidden agenda, and your alt is a bad proxy for it" or "you are so stupid, please tell me your real identity so I can mock you properly".

Accidentally The Whole Frigate - For-newbies blog (currently on pause)
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#134 - 2012-07-05 15:58:31 UTC
ITT Jade thinks every thread is about him.

[b]Don't worry about posting with your main!  Post with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."[/b]
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#135 - 2012-07-05 16:01:25 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
ITT Jade thinksturns every thread isinto being about him.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
#136 - 2012-07-05 16:18:58 UTC
Because it's so damn hard to Ctrl-post.
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#137 - 2012-07-05 16:46:29 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
Jade Constantine wrote:
So just for the record. Are you claiming now that the:

http://crackerjax.org/gwiki/GoonWIki/wiki.goonfleet.com/Jade_Constantine.html page was NOT copied from the "official" goonwiki site and that page with my RL picture and accusations was not at any time hosted on the "official" goon-controlled site https://wiki.goonfleet.com ?

Would just like to get your denial in writing for posterity.

How would I know? I didn't check the wiki until the first thread you derailed, repeatedly, by constantly spamming the crackerjax link, which was 2-3 weeks ago. And the wiki entry looks nothing like that.

What's next, a "so mittani, when did you stop beating your wife?" smear, since you love him so much?


Almost like you can't answer the question isn't it.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#138 - 2012-07-05 16:53:20 UTC
Lapine Davion wrote:
So you're just going to ignore what I did for you completely huh? I'm of half a mind to go and make your Goonwiki page worse now.


As long as you stop linking the material there from Eve Online every time you lose an argument I dare so nobody will really notice. But really, the fact I have a "goonwiki" page devoted to me is a pretty comprehensive sign I've gotten under your skin and become something of a signal obsession for the Goon organization. Not bad for a small corp anarchist driving a giant collectivist cult to virtual distraction.

The irony is what would really hurt my feelings would be if you guys started ignoring me. But that's hardly like to happen since I represent the one part of Eve you haven't exploited, dominated or generally crushed underfoot. Good forum posting! Big smile



The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom
oldbutfeelingyoung
Perkone
Caldari State
#139 - 2012-07-05 16:58:13 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
You hear it all the time. "Post with your main". I know I do, and I have good reasons for doing so. The main one is building an "e-Personality". People know who I am, what I think, and what to expect from me -- and if they don't, it's easy to find out. It's also to help friends join discussions that are ongoing. "Check this out, I am actually Alt AbcXyz here" just seems like the wrong way to go about things. Plus, alts are not taken as seriously, even if their contribution to the discussion is perfectly valid.

So, with that in mind, I would like to ask: Why do you alt post? Or, if you main-post, why do you think others alt post?

Is it paranoia? Or, in more nasty terms, cowardice? Is in-game retribution for forum actions really that prevalent? Is the risk of some people not liking you that high? Or is it something else?

Discuss. (Sorry, couldn't help myself)



who are you?

R.S.I2014
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
#140 - 2012-07-05 17:00:06 UTC
Can't be only a single reason in my opinion:

- Because they are legitimately trying to hide their main account. Could be fear of suicide ganking or simply disagreeing with your alliances viewpoints. Some alliances explicitly state "no forum posting in our name".

- Because their main was created without thinking about the forums? One of my alts looks ****ing jokes and I would sometimes rather post with him just because the character name and image are much more memorable.

- Because they care about reputation and only post "politically correct" with their main, using their alt for trolling/sarcasm.

- Because they have a split personality and/or roleplay.

- Because some people just like messing with your head.

I try to take all these factors into account when I read a post or write one.