Issues, Workarounds & Localization

It's still not completely fixed for me either. It's not as bad as it was before todays patch, but like the others, I used to be able to run my clients no problem at 60 fps pre 1.1... where now, I'm getting 30-40 fps.

Though I had one instance where one client was running at 60 fps, with the others still running in the 30-40 fps range; with all clients running with the same settings, on the same computer and screen, in windowed mode, until i session changed it... then it joined the rest in the lower fps range for a few mins, but then went back up to 60 fps (with the others still in the 30-40 fps range, no matter what).

All fixed now. I was trying on my own to see what the problem was and found that the patch locked my vid cards GPU clock at 50MHZ when default should be 720 MHZ. I tried to adjust manually and it wouldn't. Ends up all I had to do was a reboot of my PC ( which had not been done since the patch install ) and all was good, now back to 60 FPS and GPU clock back at 720MHZ

The patch has helped me some but i am still getting a a major fps drop and big memory leak. it takes 1.8gb just to run one client . i have submitted a bug report. the number is140361

For me the problem also isn't fixed. I always was able to run two clients and record one client with Fraps. In the past I had 60 fps on the client where fraps wasn't integrated on the other client I had 30 fps because of the chocke from fraps. Now I have 15 to 20 fps on both clients if fraps is running.
Please fix this problem.

System:
2 x ATI HD7770
Intel Core i5 3570
8GB RAM
Windows 7

Also, there IS a performance degradation, all you need to do is open many clients and go sit at an ice belt, and watch the fps go from 60 down to 55, 50, 45... And then switch to another client. fps back to 60!... it’s really odd, since some clients are more affected than others even when they are all sitting the same grid watching the same ships go in and out with the same settings and even flying the same ships. Some clients degrade, some others don’t, initially.

Oddly enough some clients actually get better fps if you switch focus around. For example one client goes from 60 down to 45 fps, so i switch to another and then back and fps might go back up to 50. Nothing changed, except focus. No changes in pov or zoom at all.

About the clock thing i found the same problem, if i run multiple clients and open anything that uses hardware video accel clocks go into video mode and eve does nothing to get the clocks back up like it used to, so performance is terrible and what’s worse the clocks get stuck on idle sometimes. Something that happens only with eve, other games let the video process set the clocks down but they take control when back in focus and clocks are forced back to game mode.

And like i said, they get STUCK on video mode, at that point closing eve and running another 3d application won’t set it back to game mode, not even running it on fullscreen which is supposed to force clocks to max regardless of video load. This "clocks STUCK on video mode" is a real problem, because there’s no way of fixing it other than restarting the pc.

I simply can’t reproduce this "idle bug" with any other game, so it is eve the one causing it. for some reason VLC doesn’t trigger this problem. But MPC, the windows player and even flash, depending on the video. Will trigger it. youtube up to 480p wont but 720p will.

Tested it creating a 5 seconds blank video file saved at 1080p and running it on the windows video player, so the clocks would get reset more often. When using one client i never seen it trigger, but with multiple clients I’ve seen it 2 times already. it seems all the clients tell the driver to go into game mode at the same time and the driver doesn’t know what to do sometimes. Something that didn’t happen before and doesn’t happen with other games regardless of how many instances i open of them.


idk what you changed, i do know it’s not on the patchnotes and whatever it was, was working fine before... if it’s not broken, don’t fix it.

That sounds like a serious case of overdraw or overdone geometry. I know of some missions that have these anomalies in them (bright shining stuff) that generates a similar slowdown if it is too prominent in view. One such mission is called "The blockade" (level 4 Serpents mission) for example.

Great advice Inspiration. Many Thanks.

My setup 3 monitors - 1 x 580 driving centre, 1x580 drive left / right displays.

1 eve client centre screen, up to 4 eve clients on left / right display.

Confirming on default mode the sum of the client fps = 60, so 4 clients up, each client sees 15 fps, 2 clients 30fps etc.

Easily reproducible.

Turn off Desktop composition, lose pretty aero look and feel but each client then operates at a flat 60 fps.

Is this considered fixed? After a couple of days in which the problem had gone away (maybe thanks to the suggestions about win7 compositing, turned off all desktop effects), the situation is again depressingly bad. Sitting in a station doing _nothing_ has the fps jumping from 30 to 60 every few seconds with interval default. With interval immediate it seems better but there's still clearly some jitter. And this is a mid/high end PC.

Are there any changes on SiSi that still have to be deployed on TQ? What's going on?

Todays patch screwed things up for me as well. I have this jumps from 30 to 60 FPS too, whether I use a single client or multiple clients in fixed window mode. When I use two clients the FPS graphs seem to be very similar, with the lows and highs at the same time.
When I set one of the clients to full screen, the FPS on both clients goes up to a steady 60 FPS again.
Opening a conversation with an NPC seemed to have fixed the problem for now, but restating the client didn't.


Here an image that shows the client and FPS monitor of both clients and marking the point in time when the conversation with an npc on one of the clients seems to have fixed the problem.

http://i.imgur.com/jseci.jpg



I did some more testing and it seems like the Flash Player is somehow involved in "my" problem. In my previous screen shot I closed the Flash Player in Chrome during that low FPS phase, but FPS didn't go up until I started that conversation with an Agent. I've never experienced something like this before this clients build.

http://i.imgur.com/qb14X.jpg

1. I opened a flash player stream in the Chrome browser to watch a TV stream and also opened the unified inventory in the EVE client. FPS drop immediately and jump from 30 to 60 FPS.
2. I closed Chrome. FPS jump back to a steady 60 FPS.
3. I opened the same flash player stream in Firefox and closed it again. FPS Drop and rise again.
4. I opened the flash stream once again in Firefox. FPS drop.
5. I reduced the zoom factor of the stream in Firefox, FPS went to normal, then I closed Firefox.
6. I opened the flash stream in Chrome once again, at the same zoom factor it was before and the client FPS stay the same.

For me it is not enough information to draw more conclusions than some involvement of the Flash Player.

got the same prb as everyone else..in station....fps is 60 fps...undocked 14-16.....i normally run 5-6 accounts on the one screen....windowed and all r sitting nicely at 60 fps...but if i afk in station for a few minutes...it goes from 60 to 30 then 60 again...damn depressing....tired of station spinning...running window 7 home premium 32 bit..3.2 gig duel core amd processor..4 gig corsair gaming ram...5770 ati hd raedon 1 gig vid card....not overclocked...so i have no idea...pissing me off that there is no responce from ccp..been 1 week since i made a petition....