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Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-07-05 09:03:28 UTC
I haven’t played EVE very much over the last 5 months, I have lost interest in all the politics and poorly balanced game mechanics, however I have had a great time playing Dust, it’s so easy to form squads, characters are less defined by your own personality and getting killed is less problematic, its great shooting people in the head instead of a pod, it’s made me think than EVE online is full of old time gamers who hide behind politics and manipulating game mechanics, perhaps you could say the 9 year old game is getting too long in the tooth even with updates, just a bunch of old farts hanging on to what they believe is rightly theirs, let’s face it, space is unlimited in size and potential species, even uncharted with no A-Z guide, EVE’s nothing like that!, more a Facebook with generic mechanics.
So I’m curious how many Eve players play dust? And are Eve characters more superior to Dust characters?
Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-07-05 09:06:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
I'm 21. Just sayin.

Im playing Dust at the moment but the 2 games cant really be compared. Dust seems like it will be a lot more casual. Thats about it really if it werent obvious already.
Azurius Dante
Banana Corp
#3 - 2012-07-05 09:09:18 UTC
Kids these days.....

Why do i get the feeling you're pissed about getting killed?
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#4 - 2012-07-05 09:09:48 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
So I’m curious how many Eve players play dust?


By shooting people

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I have lost interest in all the politics and poorly balanced game mechanics

The politics I can understand, but theres nothing 'poorly balanced' about EVE, there used to be, but now that theres new BCs and the blaster buff, along with future frigate and crusier changes, its getting pretty balanced.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
#5 - 2012-07-05 09:10:03 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
I haven’t played EVE very much over the last 5 months, I have lost interest in all the politics and poorly balanced game mechanics, however I have had a great time playing Dust, it’s so easy to form squads, characters are less defined by your own personality and getting killed is less problematic, its great shooting people in the head instead of a pod, it’s made me think than EVE online is full of old time gamers who hide behind politics and manipulating game mechanics, perhaps you could say the 9 year old game is getting too long in the tooth even with updates, just a bunch of old farts hanging on to what they believe is rightly theirs, let’s face it, space is unlimited in size and potential species, even uncharted with no A-Z guide, EVE’s nothing like that!, more a Facebook with generic mechanics.
So I’m curious how many Eve players play dust? And are Eve characters more superior to Dust characters?
Hi!

To answer your questions I don't play Dust and I don't know how many do. So it's not zero, but probably more than one.

I have no context to answer your second question.

A general question of my own is when will CCP put a hold on spaceship development for Dust related stuff? I wonder if it will be :18months: part 2.
Markus Reese
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-07-05 09:11:38 UTC
I don't play dust myself. I I would get bored of it in short time, after a couple of months tops. I live eve because it lets me play tactical, much like chess, there is alot more complexity, and it takes time to get things moving and for change to happen. This observable progress keeps me into it.

Dust, My brother is beta-ing Dust. He is opposite of me, was only in eve a few months, but I have been tutoring him in dust playstyle. More forgiving, and will be intense once it gets finished. Really excellent combat though the controls need more fiddling.

To quote Lfod Shi

The ratting itself is PvE. Getting away with it is PvP.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-07-05 09:20:32 UTC
Azurius Dante wrote:
Kids these days.....

Why do i get the feeling you're pissed about getting killed?


Not empty quoting.

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Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-07-05 09:23:27 UTC
I wouldn't be playing dust if i was pissed and being killed Roll
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-07-05 09:27:19 UTC
I'm nineteen and enjoy EVE because it isn't rampant with stick-and-carrot microreward mechanics, encourages creativity and social collaboration and has tangible in-game consequences.

It offers something that no other game on the market can.

/thread

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Sarton Wells
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-05 09:33:52 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
I wouldn't be playing dust if i was pissed and being killed Roll


Is dying with no penalty really dying?
Anuillae Fourneaux
Calydon Inc.
#11 - 2012-07-05 09:35:42 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
And are Eve characters more superior to Dust characters?


Lorewise? Yeah, I'd say so. EVE characters run nullsec, basically, while DUST characters fight for contractors over planets.

In terms of gaming skill, FPS and Internet Spaceship MMOs just don't compare to each other. They're completely different. EVE would be a less casual game, though.

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Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-07-05 09:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Not Amused Responsible
The penalty is that it goes on your profil, as dust charaters are mercs, stats matter, after all you wouldn't hire a merc to take out a PI with huge losses and besides its less politics! thats got to be good news.
Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2012-07-05 09:42:47 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
My COD K/D matters, y'all oldies into lame politics!


Okay, we get it. See you in Dust!

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#14 - 2012-07-05 09:42:58 UTC
Dust offers what the EVE experience badly needs - "pick up and play" quick-entry, casual-friendly gameplay. Historically adding such gameplay into "hardcore" (for want of a better term) games leads to diluting the experience. Seperating out the casual playstyle into a closely linked but seperate game is an ingenious way of squaring that circle.

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Halete
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-07-05 09:52:22 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Dust offers what the EVE experience badly needs - "pick up and play" quick-entry, casual-friendly gameplay. Historically adding such gameplay into "hardcore" (for want of a better term) games leads to diluting the experience. Seperating out the casual playstyle into a closely linked but seperate game is an ingenious way of squaring that circle.


I agree completely, hence my totally sympathetic 'See you in Dust!'

I'm glad that EVE is getting a compliment that can attract the type of player EVE itself doesn't cater to.

By keeping EVE "pure" (and I use the word very light-heartedly) I can't help but feel like we're dodging a bullet that tends to hit 'hardcore' games sooner or later.

"To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin" - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 13:21
Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-07-05 10:06:25 UTC
Will it stay separate though what about WIS? Surely Eve characters will meet Dust Characters, they already share the same server don’t they?
Sarton Wells
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2012-07-05 10:19:27 UTC
Not Amused Responsible wrote:
The penalty is that it goes on your profil, as dust charaters are mercs, stats matter, after all you would hire a merc to take out a PI with huge losses and besides its less politics! thats got to be good news.


That's hardly the same as losing (potentially) everything you've worked for in a matter of seconds.

I agree dust is a welcome addition to eve. I don't agree it's better than eve.
Not Amused Responsible
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-07-05 10:40:14 UTC
I had to learn about my enemy for me to survive, what I found was something completely different, I love paying Eve online, but the “ PVP SANDBOX” was getting annoying, carebears kill too and the Dust mechanics lets me explore it in my play style, but in Eve I’m an industrialist and always will be.
Klown Walk
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-07-05 10:49:49 UTC
Dust is meant to bring in casual players and perhaps they learn the basic stuff like fitting/skill training and decide to try eve later. I myself would never get it as I hate console fps.
Lin-Young Borovskova
Doomheim
#20 - 2012-07-05 10:52:03 UTC
OP if you don't like it, don't play it.

Nobody forces you to do whatever, and nobody can force or set your own goals unless YOU let it happen.

brb
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