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Ding Dong ACTA is dead :D
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Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#1 - 2012-07-04 12:22:10 UTC
Sidus Isaacs
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2012-07-04 12:27:38 UTC
I like your Ding Doing reference, well done. I am also happy ACTA was not run through without opposition. Just hope people will stay vigilant.
Nirnias Stirrum
UberWTFBBQ and Battle Technologies
#3 - 2012-07-04 13:00:18 UTC
was there really ever any doubt it would die on its feet?
Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
#4 - 2012-07-04 13:05:53 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
was there really ever any doubt it would die on its feet?



Well i had hoped in would have died screaming in a ball of flames driving off a cliff, but hey.
I guess you can't get everything you want..
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#5 - 2012-07-04 13:16:51 UTC
Perhaps the people who voted for it should die in a ball of flames driving off a cliff... *hint hint*
Rana Ash
Gradient
Electus Matari
#6 - 2012-07-04 13:46:56 UTC
Vicky Somers wrote:
Perhaps the people who voted for it should die in a ball of flames driving off a cliff... *hint hint*



We can make a bus trip of it Big smile, now there is just the matter of finding a good cliff. Grand Canyon??
Reiisha
#7 - 2012-07-04 16:14:43 UTC
There's still some possibilities that it goes through anyway (don't ask), but that would need a miracle to work.

For now, lets enjoy this victory :)

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-07-04 18:31:45 UTC
The internet is an entity onto itself. Even if ACTA and SOPA had passed legislation, it would never have amounted to much.

But it does make a nice headline: Democracy Prevailed.

[i]" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand, I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "[/i]
Nachteule Kohen
#9 - 2012-07-04 20:51:20 UTC
they'll just write another act until it gets voted. pessimism ftw.
Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
#10 - 2012-07-05 02:17:21 UTC
Nachteule Kohen wrote:
they'll just write another act until it gets voted. pessimism ftw.


I actually give this about three months.
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#11 - 2012-07-05 06:22:23 UTC
This thing aint dead.

the MPAA, RIAA and their equals all over the EU have paid too much money to the right political goons for it to fail.

EVE is like swimming on a beach in shark infested waters,  There is however a catch...  The EVE Beach you also have to wonder which fellow swimmer will try and eat you before the sharks.
Iskawa Zebrut
Smoke to Train - Train to Smoke
#12 - 2012-07-05 16:21:18 UTC
Viktor Fyretracker wrote:
This thing aint dead.

the MPAA, RIAA and their equals all over the EU have paid too much money to the right political goons for it to fail.


It's the lobbyist groups that should be the real targets here. Absolutely no one should be able to pay someone to sit on a politician's lap.

Unless you're talking prostitutes.
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#13 - 2012-07-06 02:05:46 UTC
Iskawa Zebrut wrote:
Viktor Fyretracker wrote:
This thing aint dead.

the MPAA, RIAA and their equals all over the EU have paid too much money to the right political goons for it to fail.


It's the lobbyist groups that should be the real targets here. Absolutely no one should be able to pay someone to sit on a politician's lap.

Unless you're talking prostitutes.


or lap dancers lol

seems we've replaced the words bribe and bribery with lobby and lobbying these days, as for it cropping up again, just means we'll be shooting that one down as well :) and every time we do it costs them money, factor in
http://torrentfreak.com/top-artists-line-up-for-kim-dotcoms-megabox-120629/
among other things and well the old corrupt monopoly is going to be taking its swan dive shortly (anyone got pop corn ready? :) which for artists, the consumers etc is a good thing, the alternative is a very large loss of civil liberties and likely the content industry through their lobbying for legislation driving hordes of people into the welcoming arms of the black hat community along with the dark net (which has interesting things but also some very sick s**t) in the case of the record labels its high time they stopped ripping artists off and paying them chump change as well as expecting to be able to dictate prices and holding a strangle hold monopoly over the music industry.
Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#14 - 2012-07-06 05:45:18 UTC
I do not know the rules of the EU.

Sadly here in the US, SCOTUS said corporations are people too so now they can exert their full bribery force on our government. This country is going to become a corporate state soon I guess. when does the USN roll out the Ravens and our president becomes more of a CEO?

Caldari State here we come! See you all at Sol 3 Moon 1 Boeing Defense Force.

EVE is like swimming on a beach in shark infested waters,  There is however a catch...  The EVE Beach you also have to wonder which fellow swimmer will try and eat you before the sharks.
Cierejai
Biofuel Productions
#15 - 2012-07-06 11:24:28 UTC
If I was a politician I would just ignore special interest groups after I was elected (it has to be after because I need their money for my campaign).

And after they pull funding because I am not their puppet I can say to the people, "Look they won't fund me anymore because I am not their puppet".

Then I would lose the next election because whatever party I run for would boot me out.
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#16 - 2012-07-08 02:39:15 UTC
actually one thing iceland did after the quiet revolution they had in the wake of the global finacial crisis was iirc to ban all union and special interest donations, cant remember the actual terms but seem to remember both them being listed.

it's funny some respects, now days it's no longer called bribery cause that's illegal so it's been replaced with "lobbying" go figure...
Tian Jade
Bad Bumblebee Incorporated
#17 - 2012-07-09 09:45:44 UTC
The thing will certainly return. Perhaps under a different name or broken into smaller segments then being sent in again.

There is a lot of lobbyist power behind this and they certainly will not give up.
Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#18 - 2012-07-09 11:43:47 UTC
Tian Jade wrote:
There is a lot of lobbyist power behind this and they certainly will not give up.


that's only because their used to getting their own way :)
they keep doing and people will keep knocking it down, and every time it happens it costs them more money to carry on trying to bribe (erm i mean lobby) political parties :)
Priss Eluveitie
#19 - 2012-07-09 12:23:30 UTC
Current political systems in the west need a huge shake-up to get rid of the corruption; our banking system also needs to be changed. This needs to be done sooner rather than later, before these corrupt bankers and politicians decide that creating a one-world government is a good idea.

I have a feeling though, that if they try to take away our free internet, even if they use "cyber-terrorism" as an excuse for doing so, they will have a war on their hands.

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Blastcaps Madullier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Sedition.
#20 - 2012-07-11 00:53:05 UTC
Priss Eluveitie wrote:
Current political systems in the west need a huge shake-up to get rid of the corruption; our banking system also needs to be changed. This needs to be done sooner rather than later, before these corrupt bankers and politicians decide that creating a one-world government is a good idea.

I have a feeling though, that if they try to take away our free internet, even if they use "cyber-terrorism" as an excuse for doing so, they will have a war on their hands.


thing is with way things are atm their:
1: driving people into the waiting arms of the black hat community
2: making people use the internet as the worlds biggest library and learning from it in how to hide themselves and things and also how to turn round and slap them seven ways to Sunday.

the more corporate America trys to gain control the more others push back, legally or not in your country (DDOS for example)

Darknets are like the black market and visiting one, lots of interesting things but also things you really wish you'd never seen or found, iirc it's estimated only about 40% or so of the net is actually indexed, the rest is the dark net :)

day the news gets announced the RIAA and MPAA are broke cause someone hacked the banks where they had accounts and several charities received some very substantial donations is the day I really will LMFAO :) another thing the industry doesn't realize is sooner or later their going to seriously p**s the black hat community off, and you'll see a lot of dirty laundry the content industry has very publicly exposed lol, as andrew crowley at ACS:law in Brittan found himself on the receiving end :)

Back in the 90's the content industry was offered a solution which is the preportional system used when films are shown on broadcast TV for example, they choose to reject it in favour of maintaining their monopoly and license to print money from being able to dictate prices, unfort due to file sharing the genie is well and truly out of the bottle no matter how much they try to stuff the cork back in.
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