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Why do you alt post?

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George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2012-07-04 22:53:37 UTC
I have no alts. All my characters are my main character.

Besides, when discussing on a forum, people should reply to the post/argument - not the avatar. It's the same RL person behind my arguments no matter what character I'm posting with anyway.

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread

Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#42 - 2012-07-04 23:07:16 UTC
Because Jade Constantine and Issler Whatever got wardecked.

But seriously, mainly it's for ****-posting. Whenever someone wants to say something that they know will be really unpopular and they don't want it to reflect badly on their main character. Or when they just want to drop the N-word a lot.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544

Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
#43 - 2012-07-04 23:12:01 UTC
I pretend this is my main so people don't know I'm a goon alt.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2012-07-04 23:15:32 UTC
this is an alt

one that I actually use, but an alt nonetheless

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration

George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2012-07-04 23:19:02 UTC
Wolodymyr wrote:
Whenever someone wants to say something that they know will be really unpopular and they don't want it to reflect badly on their main character.


Sadly, this is the case for many forumers I'm afraid. Hiding behind an Internet avatar instead of posting as themselves. Quite pathetic actually... I guess it takes one to know one. With people being so skeptical about others posting with alts I mean...

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread

Garresh
Mackies Raiders
Wild Geese.
#46 - 2012-07-04 23:22:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Garresh
I main post pretty much all the time atm, but there was a time I alt-posted heavily, and I'll explain why.

I ran a solo w-space operation after just 6 months of first playing eve. I did have some allies, but not the kind with the skills or time to respond to any sort of offensive or invasion. Simply put, giving out my info on a character tied to my main would very likely be a death sentence, especially because the system I was in had fairly high value in today's market.

Furthermore, I do a lot of solo stuff and have pretty much made my entire post-wspace eve career in lowsec, as a solo player. When I'm discussing my tactics and strategy in depth, I alt post. It's just a security matter.

Edit: And you can call it cowardice all you want, but like I said, I do all my eve play in lowsec, both PvP and PvE(bout a 50/50 spread between the two). I don't consider it cowardice to have the sense not to link general tactics discussion to your character.

Edit 2: If you live in highsec you have no reason to alt-post ever.

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ashley Eoner
#47 - 2012-07-04 23:58:30 UTC  |  Edited by: ashley Eoner
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
You hear it all the time. "Post with your main". I know I do, and I have good reasons for doing so. The main one is building an "e-Personality". People know who I am, what I think, and what to expect from me -- and if they don't, it's easy to find out. It's also to help friends join discussions that are ongoing. "Check this out, I am actually Alt AbcXyz here" just seems like the wrong way to go about things. Plus, alts are not taken as seriously, even if their contribution to the discussion is perfectly valid.

So, with that in mind, I would like to ask: Why do you alt post? Or, if you main-post, why do you think others alt post?

Is it paranoia? Or, in more nasty terms, cowardice? Is in-game retribution for forum actions really that prevalent? Is the risk of some people not liking you that high? Or is it something else?

Discuss. (Sorry, couldn't help myself)

Sometimes people labeled as "atls" really are mains...


George Whitebread wrote:
Wolodymyr wrote:
Whenever someone wants to say something that they know will be really unpopular and they don't want it to reflect badly on their main character.


Sadly, this is the case for many forumers I'm afraid. Hiding behind an Internet avatar instead of posting as themselves. Quite pathetic actually... I guess it takes one to know one. With people being so skeptical about others posting with alts I mean...

You do realize what you just said makes absolutely no sense unless you're so obsessed with Eve that you now consider it your real life. The reality is we're ALL hiding behind internet avatars instead of using our real names and addresses.
TheoS113nc3r
Doomheim
#48 - 2012-07-05 00:16:49 UTC
Petrus Blackshell wrote:
hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:
CEO rules. Does not want unnecessary attention drawn to the corp.

I'm sure there a plenty of others that post for anonymity, high profile people Sewell.

I can't come up with an instance where a post would draw bad attention to a corp would be a post that needs posting at all.

Heh... I wonder if Chribba alt posts.



I think Chribba is a goon alt.
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-07-05 00:25:58 UTC
Alt posting is disgusting.
Grandpa Bill
Twin Lakes Retirement Home
#50 - 2012-07-05 00:27:34 UTC
Dont have any alts seein that the nursing home hardly lets me have much money on my card to have one account as it is.

Grandpa Bill

MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#51 - 2012-07-05 00:32:04 UTC
ad hominem...

thats why

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.

Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
#52 - 2012-07-05 00:49:02 UTC
Kuehnelt wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I doubt this happens, really. Goonswarm and other 0.0 alliances frankly don't care what you think of them, and they aren't going to get mad if you call them evil blobbers, devil spawn, or whatever creative (or not) insult you can come up with. We've heard it all before.


Goons? Most other 0.0 alliances? Sure. Although the OP should be painfully aware of a wardec that Jade Constantine received. And I wouldn't doubt any level of utterly humorless vindictiveness from TEST. But if you're a small industrial corp with a POS and some newbies, it doesn't take a "Death Squad" program for someone to suddenly make the game exciting for you; 'one annoyed guy' might be enough.

But my main reply to Petrus is just: sure, :effort: is competitive with alt-posting. Effort at being fair in your criticism, effort at framing your "lasers suck!" post as coming from the perspective of someone who's lost five Punishers to Rifters and is unhappy with his chances. Which just establishes a fifth reason to alt-post: it's easier. And also, again: it's safer - because even if you put the effort in, you can fail. You can fail to emphasize that your experience is with Punishers and Omens because you don't know that other laser boats are famously good; you can attempt mild criticism and be seen as someone who's just publicly shitting on his own alliance.

I'd prefer good posting to two-facedness and pretentiousness, but two-faced and pretentious people really exist. I'm sure they make good use of alts.


Well the social consequence of a wardec from the Goons for being an enemy of their organization does exist. Its just a bit of a shame that the social consequences of being an unpopular large alliance no longer lead to plenty of defensive allies through the Inferno 1.0 wardec system.

I received perma-war from the Swarm for basically being their most hated player in the game bar none (mostly for not being impressed by Mittani's fanfest antics). Lucky for me my alliance has been in a constant state of war since its inception and my first instinct on receiving the dec was to make it mutual and lock them into an eternal war with hundreds of defensive allies!

But I do quite understand why people choose to post on alts when they want to protect an industrial corp or something. In the current state of the game it is extremely cheap and easy for a nullsec alliance to spam wardecs at your corp that you can do literally nothing to counter or end - so the outcome for most small industrial corps would be either needing to alt-post to protect their assets or accept that their assets will need to be relocated to alt organizations.

If you are a player who doesn't want to attract wardecs this makes sense.

On the other side of the coin you have the nullsec trolling motivation where alt posting is either done because the person's other forum accounts have already been banned - or to attempt to goad people's main attempts into mutual ban situations by hurling abuse and invective at people with identities they care about.

F.ex. If a particular nullsec character wanted to score a victory over you Petrus - they would roll up a random disposable forum alt and try to troll you into losing your head and getting involved in an angry flame war that could then be petitioned by the colleagues of said alt. Worst case scenario for the nullsec'er in this instance is he or she loses a worthless alt its posting privileges - whereas worst case for you is you lose a posting identity you might have spent years building up. Its forum pvp with rifters against faction frigates and the people doing it with alts have very little to lose.

The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom

Linna Excel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2012-07-05 00:49:12 UTC
Because this was my first char and I was too lazy to pick another to post with?
Archie Benedict
Scrambled Eggs Inc.
#54 - 2012-07-05 01:02:40 UTC
I always post with my main, unless I'm talking about my multi billion isk mission ships that I sometimes afk in 0.0 with, or I am shitting on my alliance.
George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2012-07-05 01:03:11 UTC
ashley Eoner wrote:

George Whitebread wrote:
Wolodymyr wrote:
Whenever someone wants to say something that they know will be really unpopular and they don't want it to reflect badly on their main character.


Sadly, this is the case for many forumers I'm afraid. Hiding behind an Internet avatar instead of posting as themselves. Quite pathetic actually... I guess it takes one to know one. With people being so skeptical about others posting with alts I mean...

You do realize what you just said makes absolutely no sense unless you're so obsessed with Eve that you now consider it your real life. The reality is we're ALL hiding behind internet avatars instead of using our real names and addresses.


No. I don't realize that. My previous statement(s) makes perfect sense to me.

I don't know about you, but when I sign up on a discussion board, it's to discuss matters concerning the game (or whatever the board is supposed to cover). Playing this game is in fact part of my real life. My avatar is not, but I don't roleplay my forum identity either. George Whitebread is simply my online alias. All statements made by "him" is in fact me, the real person sitting behind the keyboard.

When you go to the store, or just are communicating in general with people you don't know in real life, you don't give away your curriculum vitae and your personal information from the get go there either. Most random and/or temporary encounters in real life are in fact done "anonymously" (disregarding your looks).

Just as I am the same person no matter what haircut I have or what clothes I wear from day to day, I'm the same person regardless of what avatar I'm using on the Internet.

An alias on the Internet is not going to alter my identity. I have only one. And the Internet is as real as on any other arena in which my life plays out. This silly fear of the "alt"-posters thus have to come from the very people that take on a purpose made identity tied to a character they, in one way or another, are roleplaying. Many of you don't roleplay EVE, but it seems like you roleplay the Internet...

If a one day old "alt" talks on the forums like he's been playing for several years and shows great understanding of this game, and have some strong opinions on a certain subject... Then he probably have some other character lying around labeled as "main". So what? It's the player behind the keyboard that have the gaming experience, not his avatars.

Back to the OP question: Why "alt" post? Well, I have different accounts/characters for different in-game purposes. I post with the account that happens to be logged on when I'm browsing the forums.

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread

Miss Yanumano
Cadence Industrial Syndicate
#56 - 2012-07-05 01:36:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Miss Yanumano
God damn forums keeps logging in my alt as default, which itself is strange, due to both name and character creation being after my main, so I'm too lazy to change it, but I've posted on my main on occasion where I feel it's appropriate to respond to "post with your main" (very seldom, I am a lazy person after all) to just prevent anyone trying to argue dumb **** by using intellectual dishonesty or willful ignorance as a shield from reason or logic.

EDIT: CCP Eris Discordia also struck down my dissidence regarding how good a certain Sci-Fi show is, and I'm afraid she'll come back and finish me off.
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-07-05 02:46:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Because players use the alliance or corp you are in to pre-judge your comments on the forums.

There is only one location that your current corp or alliance matters and that is in CAOD.
For the rest the comment of "post with your main" is a meaningless statement.
Tom Gerard
Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
#58 - 2012-07-05 02:55:59 UTC
I post with an alt, because my main account requires me to be respected by all of my customers.

Now with 100% less Troll.

Grumpymunky
Monkey Steals The Peach
#59 - 2012-07-05 03:06:01 UTC
Why doesn't everyone post with their monkey?

Post with your monkey.

Thread locked due to lack of pants.

Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-07-05 03:26:19 UTC