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Guide to Sleeper Runs
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Nissan Truck
Abrasive Industries
Golden Shield
#1 - 2012-07-04 21:33:31 UTC
Hello Gentlemen and Ladies,

Was just wondering if anyone knew of a good guide for running C1 to C3 sleeper sites in a Tengu or Nighthawk. Also had a curious question about solo'ing a C5 or C6 in a Phoenix.

1. Is it possible to solo in a phoenix dread?
2. How much isk do you make?


Thanks
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#2 - 2012-07-04 21:38:04 UTC
Assuming your not trolling... I doubt you can even complete a C5/6 site in a Phoenix - it lacks the range or the ability to apply dps effectively to sleepers... you'd literally do better sticking HML on it than using capital missiles and even thats very poor.
Archdaimon
Merchants of the Golden Goose
#3 - 2012-07-04 21:41:51 UTC
Confirming phoenixes are great for sites. Especially solo.

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Nissan Truck
Abrasive Industries
Golden Shield
#4 - 2012-07-04 22:08:52 UTC
Lol, so we have one gentlemen saying they are garbage and another saying they are great. hmph, we need more input I suppose lol
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#5 - 2012-07-04 22:32:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Rroff
As much as I'd like to oblidge the trolls on this particular topic :D

Before any other potential issue with the phoenix - how do you propose to deal with the sleeper frigs (many of which scram) with citadel missiles which are designed for hitting large structures?
Nissan Truck
Abrasive Industries
Golden Shield
#6 - 2012-07-04 23:04:19 UTC
Dude, I know NOTHING of sleepers. I was just asking. No need to get all pissy just because I am not educated on the topic
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
#7 - 2012-07-04 23:13:04 UTC
Was just trying to save you some time... but by all means jump a phoenix into a C5/6 site and see what happens :D
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-07-04 23:23:30 UTC
tengu sleeper guide:
1. warp to site
2. target sleeper
3. FIRE ZE MISSILES!

I should buy an Ishtar.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#9 - 2012-07-04 23:35:52 UTC
Oh yes, you can TOTALLY run any sleeper site in a phoenix. Have at good sir!
chris elliot
Treasury Department
Plug N Play
#10 - 2012-07-04 23:50:14 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
Oh yes, you can TOTALLY run any sleeper site in a phoenix. Have at good sir!



Confirming Phoenix's work well for c5/c6 sites.
Nissan Truck
Abrasive Industries
Golden Shield
#11 - 2012-07-04 23:53:08 UTC
*sigh* I am assuming your all trolls. lol
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-07-04 23:54:05 UTC
Go to eve survival and read over the mission notes for the various sleeper sites. Some have good comments. It will give you good insight on what to expect.
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-07-05 00:01:48 UTC
ill answer c5/6 part

no, you cant solo in a phoenix. it'll die in flames every time regardless of fits. you cant apply damage, the sleepers will neut you dry, kill your tank, and you will never be able to hit anything smaller then a battleship. its by far the most useless ship in the game, and it has no use what so ever other then hitting static big objects, and even there there are countless better options

for c5/6 you need a fleet. at least 5 people. tengu's are the easiest option for subcaps. for caps you need a triage carrier, something to web the battleships, and dreadnaughts to kill them. revs and moros are excellent, nag's are decent, phoenix still sucks

as for income. assuming a normal fleet where things like boosters and salvagers are alts, between 500 million and 1 billion an hour
Nissan Truck
Abrasive Industries
Golden Shield
#14 - 2012-07-05 00:13:57 UTC
Hathrul wrote:
ill answer c5/6 part

no, you cant solo in a phoenix. it'll die in flames every time regardless of fits. you cant apply damage, the sleepers will neut you dry, kill your tank, and you will never be able to hit anything smaller then a battleship. its by far the most useless ship in the game, and it has no use what so ever other then hitting static big objects, and even there there are countless better options

for c5/6 you need a fleet. at least 5 people. tengu's are the easiest option for subcaps. for caps you need a triage carrier, something to web the battleships, and dreadnaughts to kill them. revs and moros are excellent, nag's are decent, phoenix still sucks

as for income. assuming a normal fleet where things like boosters and salvagers are alts, between 500 million and 1 billion an hour


Thank you very much for Legit, non-troll, input.

Much appreciated
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#15 - 2012-07-05 01:08:33 UTC
I heard Avatars are great for soloing C6s

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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-07-05 02:46:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jack Miton
Nissan Truck wrote:
1. Is it possible to solo in a phoenix dread?


LOL!!!

You have a better shot at making a phoenix a good L4 mission runner than a WH dread.

PS: Hath, youre no fun at all...

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Nissan Truck
Abrasive Industries
Golden Shield
#17 - 2012-07-05 04:08:32 UTC
What about a Naglfur?
Klarion Sythis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-07-05 04:26:52 UTC
Nissan Truck wrote:
What about a Naglfur?

Hathrul wrote:
revs and moros are excellent, nag's are decent, phoenix still sucks

I think calling it decent is giving it too much credit in pve, but I haven't tried it.
Removal Tool
ElitistOps
Snuffed Out
#19 - 2012-07-05 04:30:43 UTC
Hathrul wrote:
ill answer c5/6 part

no, you cant solo in a phoenix. it'll die in flames every time regardless of fits. you cant apply damage, the sleepers will neut you dry, kill your tank, and you will never be able to hit anything smaller then a battleship. its by far the most useless ship in the game, and it has no use what so ever other then hitting static big objects, and even there there are countless better options

for c5/6 you need a fleet. at least 5 people. tengu's are the easiest option for subcaps. for caps you need a triage carrier, something to web the battleships, and dreadnaughts to kill them. revs and moros are excellent, nag's are decent, phoenix still sucks

as for income. assuming a normal fleet where things like boosters and salvagers are alts, between 500 million and 1 billion an hour


I suggest you re-read this after asking about using a single dread again.
Nissan Truck
Abrasive Industries
Golden Shield
#20 - 2012-07-05 05:21:51 UTC
K, last question. Is there any Gallente ships that can colo C1 and C2?
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