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[BOND MATURED, PAID OUT] 2bn bond @ 11% interest running 4 weeks. Trust is a valuable commodity.

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DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#1 - 2011-10-06 01:47:19 UTC  |  Edited by: DJ Blackman
Here is my introduction for those who do not know my previous bond offering, which can be viewed at:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=7422

and its subsequent thread announcing its completion: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=postmessage&m=127864


Introduction:

Hello to all - I have been playing eve close to 2 years now and have been practicing with small investments on the market. I believe I have been waiting for a while to get a chance to start a bond and this seems like a decent starting point.

A little bit about myself and my corp - My entire corp of Often AFK is my 2 mains and alts. All 6 chars are trained in PI, and I am currently running 12 planets in a WH with elite CC for PI which nets me between 700 to 800m a month with this char and another, Colonel Vatutin. My total assets excluding the resources in the WH come to about 4.6 bn at the moment, and that is not counting the monthly income from PI of approx. 700-800m. Most of them are heavily invested in the markets, and since I have been investing seriously since the end of august I have been able to gain a good 30% back on my investments due to heavy market PVP. I started with about 1.18 bn on liquid isk around the end of august this year, and is now investing a little over 4bn. Lol

This is my second offering, with promise of 11% return at four week's time after bond is filled.
I hope to offer this in 50m increments, so 40 shares are available. Even if I do suffer some low returns on the investments on the market, my monthly PI work can cover total of 565m easily. I cannot offer much in collateral, but I do hope to build up my reputation as an honest and straight forward investor who can be trusted.

Details are as follows:

- 2bn total bond value, available in 50m for each bond share. 50,000,000.01 isk bonds will be returned to owners due not following instructions

- 11% return with principle at the end of the cycle exactly 4 weeks time on GMT eve clock. I am hoping this bond will fill so I can meet 4 week maturity date on Nov. 3 or 5th, 2011 0:00 AM GMT.

- Send ISK to MC Jack - my trader alt in the same corp.

- No collateral, only my trust and yours in making this work.

- Risk of running: As I always say, why the hell would I run off in a char with some 30 bucks worth of isk when I invested over twenty times that playing eve for 2 years on two accounts? Why would I risk ostracizing and biomassing my chars for this amount? To me, these two accounts are culmination of a series of hard-learned lessons that I hope to expand upon and achieve a notable degree of financial and influential success. But then, it all comes down to mutual trust in investments.


The reason I do so without a collateral offering is the following:

I believe trust is a valuable and most expensive commodity there is in the dog-eat world of eve online, and I hope to earn that trust to expand my business! Btw- chribba is a fine example of trust as an invaluable asset- I do hope I can do the same. In the future with greater amount I will be willing to use his services to secure collaterals, but I wanted to prove with these humble bond offerings that I can be trusted - with or without oversights. I believe this is a risky but sincere manner in which I hope to earn your trust.

Furthermore, eve for me is a way to relieve stress in a virtual world; as generic as that sounds, some people actually have a life Shocked(WAT??) and I have my fill of dealing with scumbaggery and general s#ht in real life, I do not need more here. I want to explore just what I can achieve in a comparatively secure (trust me it is) environment that is eve and hope similarly like minded people would agree in this endeavor. Troll away if you want, my offer stands.

Smooth sailing hopefullySmile


Shareholders:

Junnichi Asakura -reserved 20 shares of 1bn isk (ISK received)
Esan Vartesa - reserved 10 shares of 500m isk (ISK received)
March rabbit - reserved 10 shares of 500m isk (isk received)

Edit:
Bond Full, running until Nov 5th, 2011, 0:00am GMT
Junnichi Asakura
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2011-10-07 12:10:55 UTC
I'll take 20 shares (totalling 1bn investment)
I'm at work now however i'll fire the Isk at you in around 5 hours time...

Good luck
JA
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#3 - 2011-10-07 15:36:26 UTC
Will take 10 shares, worth 500 million Isk.

Value will be contracted to MC Jack within 12 hours.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-10-07 17:04:16 UTC
why not? reserve 500 mils for me.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Jerry Pepridge
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-10-07 18:07:55 UTC
first bond 500m
second bond 2b

... and so on , until you will think it`s high enaugh to scam .

DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#6 - 2011-10-07 22:31:32 UTC  |  Edited by: DJ Blackman
Jerry Pepridge wrote:
first bond 500m
second bond 2b

... and so on , until you will think it`s high enaugh to scam .





To offer some reassurance, I would like to begin using chribba to secure collaterals once I reach 10bn mark or so in bond offers. However I would ideally like to offer any amount be that 1bn or 100 bn, without collateral if I can earn that much trust in my investment business. In the end, it all comes down to trust since if a scammer puts their minds to it there are so many ways to screw over someone by 'repgrinding' or something else.

It's gonna have to go pretty high to compensate for 600+ USD and more importantly the priceless leisure time I spent on this game Smile measly 1trn (yes that is right 1trillion) isk isn't enough for me to compensate for that time spent - I want the experience, as generic as that sounds and to me that is too valuable to throw away.

In the end, it all comes down to mutual agreement and a degree of trust (Think it's naive? Please slit your own throat before depositing any money in the bank next time), since a possibility always exists that a scammer could scam regardless of what kinds of safety backup plans and reassurances one puts up. So the real question is choice - to believe, to come to an agreement, or not to.

Believe me or don't - your choice. If you don't wish to believe, no one's forcing you to give up your money. Think it's a repgrind? Believe what you want to believe. Someone's got to extend an olive branch and I personally do not mind I do so first to prove that I can be an honest trader who chooses to follow a certain guideline in dealing with like-minded and willing people.


Will confirm bond full once all ISK have been received by MC Jack.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-10-07 22:39:07 UTC
lololololol

look at this obvious repgrind scam

look how much time and effort youve spent in a failed attempt to squeeze veritable pennies in this game

how ******* sad is that?
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#8 - 2011-10-07 22:50:21 UTC
@Elise

About as sad as your trolling. Do not comment if you don't know the situation, do not know me, or have anything constructive to say.


Confirming March Rabbit isk received.
Elise DarkStar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-10-08 00:12:58 UTC
Oh hey, march rabbit. Should probably cook up some fresh shills, march rabbit and tom hagen have invested in 3/4 of every obvious scams in the last 4 months. These repgrinds are getting painfully obvious
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-10-08 09:58:12 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
Oh hey, march rabbit. Should probably cook up some fresh shills, march rabbit and tom hagen have invested in 3/4 of every obvious scams in the last 4 months. These repgrinds are getting painfully obvious

maybe you should try to learn how to make money in Eve instead of crying about others wallets? Cool
you know: this is really easy to make money these days. So i don't see any reasons to be "too careful" about it.

btw: some of these "scams" worked well.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

flakeys
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-10-08 10:33:33 UTC
Elise DarkStar wrote:
These repgrinds are getting painfully obvious



Just as obvious as the comments to be expected from jerry , angsty and you though Roll .I miss setra Cry

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Junnichi Asakura
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2011-10-08 12:14:48 UTC
1b Funds (and extra - see evemail oops LOL) sent to DJ Blackman.

JA
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#13 - 2011-10-08 22:47:00 UTC  |  Edited by: DJ Blackman
Junnichi Asakura wrote:
1b Funds (and extra - see evemail oops LOL) sent to DJ Blackman.

JA


"50,000,000.01 isk bonds will be returned to owners due not following instructions"

JA this means no amount other than the exact promised amount of 1,000,000,000.00 isk will be accepted and therefore will be immediately refunded back in full to the sender. I have sent back the exact amount I have received: 8,383,544,331.52 isk. Please send the exact amount to MC Jack. Thanks for your investment promises.

On separate note, Esan Vartesa 500m received.
Esan Vartesa
Samarkand Financial
#14 - 2011-10-09 00:26:46 UTC
Confirming Isk sent.

Good luck, Mr Blackman.
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#15 - 2011-10-10 08:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: DJ Blackman
JA, unless I receive isk from you within 48 hours, I would need to rescind your reservation and open the bond again.

Edit-

ISK received. Please send it to MC Jack next time - thank you.

I will post periodic updates on the investment situations. Expect 11% returns with 110m for JA, 55m for each Esan and March Rabbit along with the investment capital.
Eddie Laydon
Laydon Industries
#16 - 2011-10-10 11:05:12 UTC
this is so pathetic...
are you honestly telling me your friends cant give you a 2b loan? I know at least 4 people who could give me a couple of billion in the next 24h, if i try hard i could probably get much more than that.

the fact that you need to ask in here for a loan of this size means you're either building up rep for future scam, or none of your friends trust you with isk.

ps with over 4.6b in assets the fact that you cant provide a collateral tells me you're planning a scam.
Junnichi Asakura
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2011-10-10 11:28:19 UTC
Apologies for the delay in sorting out payment - lol. i'm my own worst enemy at times!
Ah well, all is sorted now, good luck.

JA
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#18 - 2011-10-10 17:35:17 UTC
Eddie Laydon wrote:
this is so pathetic...
are you honestly telling me your friends cant give you a 2b loan? I know at least 4 people who could give me a couple of billion in the next 24h, if i try hard i could probably get much more than that.

the fact that you need to ask in here for a loan of this size means you're either building up rep for future scam, or none of your friends trust you with isk.

ps with over 4.6b in assets the fact that you cant provide a collateral tells me you're planning a scam.


I suggest you keep your mouth where it belongs and b!tch elsewhere.

You see there are some people in this world who prefer to earn their own way to success rather than asking for handouts from friends. Big smile some people actually LIKE (Shocked) succeeding on their own.

Some people prefer to make 'friends' over the internet with faceless masses in an entertainment medium. some people don't give a flyig fawk and just enjoy the game when they get a chance to log on because.....it's a game to them, not a life. I am in the latter category Smile

I have already explained plenty regarding this venture and it needs no more explanations. I suggest you quit your moaning and troll another loan offering it it makes you feel better about having lots of 'friends' on an mmorpgBig smile
Eddie Laydon
Laydon Industries
#19 - 2011-10-10 18:28:13 UTC
DJ Blackman wrote:

I suggest you keep your mouth where it belongs and b!tch elsewhere.

You see there are some people in this world who prefer to earn their own way to success rather than asking for handouts from friends. Big smile some people actually LIKE (Shocked) succeeding on their own.

Some people prefer to make 'friends' over the internet with faceless masses in an entertainment medium. some people don't give a flyig fawk and just enjoy the game when they get a chance to log on because.....it's a game to them, not a life. I am in the latter category Smile

I have already explained plenty regarding this venture and it needs no more explanations. I suggest you quit your moaning and troll another loan offering it it makes you feel better about having lots of 'friends' on an mmorpgBig smile


lol you have no friends and I'm the weirdo? What?

anyway...

just explain to me why you have no collateral? do you honestly want us to believe you own nothing of value and that you do PI all month long, just so that you can pay for your subscription? no normal human being would do that.
DJ Blackman
Often AFK
#20 - 2011-10-10 19:39:16 UTC
I have good friends who are my equals, not those you sponge off of without anything useful to give back or turn to for help whenever you feel is necessary. =)

It seems you have a long way to go in understanding what it really means to have a 'friend' either in real life or in eve =)

As for the rest, learn to read. Don't like it? Go moan in other threads.
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