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for the love of god show local time

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Korsiri
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#101 - 2012-07-04 00:29:38 UTC
Good god.

Eve = Windowed mode.
OS = set to local time,
boom badda boom! I can see both times oooooooh. Or, even better, set an additional clock in Win7 to your friend's aussie time like I do.

problem solved.

Also, +rep for Dr Who reference, I knew Eve devs were coolest ever but tis awesome to have more proof ^_^

Oh and bittervet bit -

In my day, we hadda read a sundial to bloody know the time... or keep some chickens happy...

kids these days...
Jiska Ensa
Estrale Frontiers
#102 - 2012-07-04 02:03:12 UTC
/me wants to move to Saskatchewan...

But in all seriousness, why wouldn't you want the client to display "eve time?" what if you're in an alliance with people all over the world. You'd end up planning things at GMT anyway, and no one would be able to look at the clock and see "oh that's 5 hours from now"

Or in my special case, it's usually "oh, that was an hour ago. Whoops"
Hoarr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-07-04 02:11:26 UTC
4-AcO-DMT wrote:
srsly, how hard can it be ?


f'in eve-uni trying to sh*t up the game for the rest of us.
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#104 - 2012-07-04 02:26:59 UTC
this is why we can't have nice things

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Viktor Fyretracker
Emminent Terraforming
#105 - 2012-07-04 02:47:00 UTC
Problem with making EVE show local time is that it becomes the issue for the CEO to convert times for others. Everybody knows their reference to GMT. I live in New Jersey, as such during summer I am GMT -4 I know an Op at 00:00 server is 8pm local.

Trust me this is superior than a CEO of FC in Los Angeles saying the fifth fleet deploys at 8pm and then wondering why half his fleet is not online and he has a pile of emails stating they had been on for ninety minutes waiting for him because half are in New York.

all problems in my example are fixed by saying it starts at 03:00 server. for before midnight times you subtract or ad your difference from GMT and if you use am/pm like we do in the US you then subtract 12 from any time that 13:00 or later.

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Reiisha
#106 - 2012-07-04 03:13:52 UTC
I honestly don't see why having local time in EVE would matter.

Everyone seeing EVE time means that when someone says 7pm, it's always 19:00 EVE time. When someone says 2am, it's always 02:00 EVE time. When someone says 15:00, its always 15:00 EVE time.

Having local time in the EVE client:
"Dude, i thought the tower would come out of reinforced at 6 am?" "Yeah, that was 4 hours ago dumbass" "But it's 10 am now!"

"Hey, why is downtime at 9pm? The popup is saying it's at noon, why is it saying the servers will go down in an hour!!??"


You have numerous other clocks in your house that show you the local time. You will learn very quickly how to convert EVE time to local time. Showing local time only accomplishes making international cooperation more difficult - I don't know many corps where all members are in the same timezone.

Why exactly would it be better to show local time in the client? I haven't heard any arguments for that yet.

If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all...
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
#107 - 2012-07-04 05:43:32 UTC
Gerald Taric wrote:
5 pages of postings just for a simple +2 arithmetic operation (at last for me), which the OP refuses to do .... impressive.

How can someone not be able to do ± simple whole number maths in their head and yet make change for a pound/dollar/euro/etc?

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Dirk Culliford
Zero G Universal Enterprises
#108 - 2012-07-04 06:03:19 UTC
Obvious solution - move to the UK. That should work!

On the other hand, if you aren't capable of arithmetic we might not want you...
Corvus Borealis
AUS-BadBadNotGood
#109 - 2012-07-04 06:11:01 UTC
4-AcO-DMT wrote:
srsly, how hard can it be ?

There is only one time, EVE TIME!
Cebraio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#110 - 2012-07-04 08:06:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Cebraio
Dirk Culliford wrote:
Obvious solution - move to the UK. That should work!

On the other hand, if you aren't capable of arithmetic we might not want you...

Wait, you're from UK? And you don't know about the daylight saving difference? BST is not UTC. So half of the year also the UK is 1 hour off.

Obvious solution - move to Iceland.
Chanina
ASGARD HEAVY INDUSTRIES
#111 - 2012-07-04 09:00:36 UTC
Please please, never ever change eve time to local time!

It is already hard enough to get different time zones sorted out.
Call a meeting and say eve time and everyone should be able to figure out which time it is for him or her.

Maybe we could cut all countries in small stripes and pin them in the same timezone... might get somewhat crowded if everyone is playing at the same time. Daylight saving? What is that. Yes we have something like MEST but the same time zone from spain to poland ... thats about 3 time zones.


TL;DR: srsly, it would be very hard for every other eve player except you sir.
Jim Bond
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#112 - 2012-07-04 09:23:13 UTC
CCP Explorer wrote:
Holi wrote:
CCP Explorer wrote:
From a framework / technical perspective it would be no problem at all. We have simply made an explicit decision to only display EVE Time. One Universe // One War // One Time // to rule them all.

(Your OS displays the local time.)
Is the time displayed by the client the actual server clock or the client's local clock converted to server's timezone?
It's the TQ clock with an approx. ±1 second accuracy (not guaranteed).




Did you hold the second hand on the 2012.06.30 for 6 seconds, like the other scientist in the Sol system, to enable the timekeepers of Sol to add a "leap second" to compensate for the wibbly-wobbly movements of the earth?P


"The ever-so-brief halting of the second hand will compensate for a creeping divergence from solar time, meaning the period required for Earth to complete a day."



Do the planets in Eden have their own time zones as well? or I guess its a standard universe time. I guess, if your living on Jita planet 1, A day ie 1 revolution of the planet may only be 20 hours, but Jita planet 2 might be 36 hours....Might make trade and making meetings hard work.



As Dust is going to take place on planets, are the planets going to have night/day and are they going to have
different length days?
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#113 - 2012-07-04 09:26:52 UTC
No matter what decision the DEVs make, they can't please everyone.

For myself, I hate Daylight savings time. Other countries get by just fine with summer/winter hours. Why do we have to fisk with the clocks when having different business hours would work just as well. Especially if the Government worked at a given set of hours, many other businesses would adjust accordingly.

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Herr Hammer Draken
#114 - 2012-07-04 09:43:26 UTC
The biggest best reason to use GMT is for the preplanning of military ops across many different timezones.
When the players in your corp are from all over the world, you need one time to reference and that is EVE time.
And if it changed to daylight savings time then it would bump one hour which again would be bad.
Why because when does it shift one hour? At 2:00 AM right? But whoose 2:00 AM? It could not change at everybodys 2:00 AM becaue then it would be a cascading time and EVE time would be different and confusing as the time change took effect one time zone after another.

So GMT never changing time is always the best for ops planning purpose. Someone can say X happens at this date and time and it happens at that time everywhere in the entire world. At the same moment in time. Nobody has to try to figure out time shifts just look at the eve clock. You just have to be able to figure out when that time happens in your local time so you can log on to be part of the action.

Herr Hammer Draken "The Amarr Prophet"
VanDam
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#115 - 2012-07-04 10:00:37 UTC
Unless you live in a windowless box while play Eve, rarely sleep and never go outside I fail to see how it could be confusing.

Person A: Oh I thought it was 4 in the afternoon not 11 in the evening!!!!!!
Person B: Erm...look outside the window?
Sugar Kyle
Middle Ground
#116 - 2012-07-04 10:39:52 UTC
The bulk of my corp functions in USA PST and Kiwi time. I'm USA EST and we have a handful of Euros. The game having a solid state is very orginizationaly friendly.

OP, this has been beaten into the thread with a gleeefullness that can only happen when the horse is dead but... Have you done anything in game with another player yet?

Member of CSM9 and CSM10.
TharOkha
0asis Group
#117 - 2012-07-04 10:54:31 UTC
4-AcO-DMT
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2012-07-04 11:46:05 UTC
Hoarr wrote:


f'in eve-uni trying to sh*t up the game for the rest of us.



i dont speak on behalf of eve-uni so you might want to shut the **** up.




i see this thread goes nowhere and its just full of flaming and trolling.
lock it.
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#119 - 2012-07-04 12:22:59 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff


I think we can all agree this makes more sense then the OP.

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Tobey Darkness
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2012-07-04 13:14:33 UTC
I have four clocks on my phone. One shows the time for Berlin, one for Tokio, one for San Francisco and one for Reykjavik ^^

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