EVE General Discussion

'Meaningful and engaging wars' ??? Holy crap dude. You don't think every war is meaningful to the participants? The ally dogpiling mechanic would have allowed large nullsec alliances the opportunity to get fights in highsec whenever they wanted. Nullsec is not always a battleground, and in the quiet periods while their masters are counting their trillions of ISK the nullsec grunts would have been able to 'invade' highsec in search of PVP.

Who would it have hindered? Nullsec logistics is always handled by alts anyway. Is it because you are just trying to push Mercenaries as a profession for the tiny percentage who would be interested? Think bigger man!

I derped because I didn't know you were referencing Jade's war specifically. If I knew that, I would have just said that this is working as intended.

Tell me why the ally system should be a free way to get around making an alliance?

Except there are several people I know who have been charged 10 trillion isk to bring allies into wars that have no allies involved in them at all.

As per our dev blog...
Ally #1 – Free!
Ally #2 – 10 million
Ally #3 – 20 million
Ally #4 – 40 million
Ally #5 – 80 million
and so on…I believe Tuxford actually capped the total cost (the cost you are seeing).

And Pak, we do want to see more wars, but more meaningful and engaging wars than just a war that was advertising "free war" dec's against major alliances. This way, the allies you choose to hire will have a meaningful contribution to the war, as you've strategically selected one above the other.

and what part of this is not catering to those Major Alliances? Let me guess who was asking / promoting these changes

as far as I'm concerned those majors need MORE people advertising fee war decs. If those people can declare war on high-sec "carebears" and "pubbies" then players should be allowed to play in the manner it which it used to be played so that way, we can gank their haulers into the trade hubs. (at a reasonable price) Hypocrites, all of yous. all you've done is add more protection to the majors and added more isk sink into the minors. This ISNT BALANCED GAMEPLAY!

So that's that for war then. gf n1. Anything else you want to bollocks up while your coders are between highs?

If this is the case, then please explain further. I see no petitions or bug reports about this, so if you are hearing otherwise I would love to know.

I suppose that depends on why you wish to go to war, personally I've always been of the opinion that combat "for the sake of combat" is a little bit against the spirit of Eve. For me declaring war on a medium sized alliance, just for the sake of fighting a few badly fitted BCs, seems a little artificial.

For some of us, if there is nothing to fight over then there is little to no point in a costly war. I for one enjoy Eve primarily because when I do engage in combat, it has a purpose. Whether it is to get someone out of a site I want, to discourage them from running sites in "my area" or simply because I think they might have something shiny on their T3.

I would ideally like to see a system where resources in high sec were limited, where high sec mission running corps would actually be able to operate more efficiently by using mercenaries to scare off rival mission runners. Or where miners similarly could "control" systems for personal gain by clearing the belts of rivals*.

Currently this element is somewhat lacking in high security space, probably by design. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it does allow the developers to cater to the admittedly numerous pure-PvE demographic, but unfortunately when the rewards are high enough and resources are unlimited it begins to encroach on the competition mechanics in other sectors of space.

Again, from the developer's point of view in the short term this isn't necessarily bad, but a lot of the long term players in Eve are here because of that competitive combat element. Just looking at the distribution of the average character SP by sec status makes it clear that high sec players simply do not stick around, and I question the logic of catering to them at the cost of driving away older players.

Anyway, I know I got side tracked, and my post hasn't exactly been relevant. But it is an element that I feel Eve has begun to lose in recent years, especially since the introduction of incursions. I sincerely hope CCP can bring some degree of balance back to the game, whether it is by increasing competition in high sec or by removing high sec as a viable place to farm with alts I do not mind.

As long as grinding ISK without risk for ~virtual PvP~ without purpose comes to a timely end. I'm also aware this is just my opinion, doubtless many care bears will disagree with me, but for what it's worth I am a care bear. Just a different kind.

*This does not necessarily mean making sure high sec players earn less ISK. If mechanics were introduced allowing players to fight for resources in high sec, I would be happy to see resources greatly increased for those who control them.