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Legion/proteus multi-region pve
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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#1 - 2012-07-03 03:17:00 UTC
I had started another thread, but never got a response on my final question.

The basic result was proteus should be better than a legion for exploration in serpentis space, however, my follow up question went unanswered.

My base is between the Blood region and Serpentis. Would a proteus be good for blood territory as well? Sometimes my region is crowded, but the region next door is empty.

So which should be the most flexible for fighting Bloods and Serpentis? Legion or Proteus? Thank you,

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drdxie
#2 - 2012-07-03 04:20:17 UTC
I would go with a Legion. Will give best damage to both and more importantly you can keep range on the blood raiders as they will neut.

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Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2012-07-03 14:32:59 UTC
I am not so sure, thing is resists of the Legion are actually worse suited to Blood raiders than the Proteus.

I will admit to having not explored in blood space but it seems to me again thermal drones would be a good damage type, and although they have travel time can be used at range, while DPS with scorch on a Legion is likely not to exceed 500dps at 50km.

A Legion fit is likely to have no drones and prob be afterburner fit, just seems a little riskier.

If anything the Loki is a better ship for Bloods.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#4 - 2012-07-04 00:33:01 UTC
Hrm, well a loki is out of the question for now. Everyone has been pushing me to go Tengu, but flying caldari is just not me. Guess I'll just have to find some new fits, since most of the old ones don't apply anymore.

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drdxie
#5 - 2012-07-04 00:50:33 UTC
I have used Loki, ,Legion and Tengu, and no matter how much people hate missiles and caldari, the tengu is still the single most versatile PVE boat out there.

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Kadeyoo
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-07-04 01:04:21 UTC
Dito.

I finally got myself to buying a Tengu, and I haven't regretted it. It's a wonderful ship for PvE content with practically no downside (apart from having to train some missile skills, which isn't bad anyway considering ships like Drake/HAM Legion/Sacrilege for example)
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#7 - 2012-07-04 01:09:56 UTC
Well, I've already 2 Cruiser V skills, not going to train another.

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OMGxxxOMG
Shadow Legion X
Seriously Suspicious
#8 - 2012-07-04 02:02:28 UTC
1. Take Legion
2. Fit HAMs
3. ???
4. Profit!!
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#9 - 2012-07-04 02:27:04 UTC
Isn't HAM range inside Neut range? Missiles should ignore the TDs, but the neuts will kill my tank if I'm looking at this right.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-07-04 07:01:33 UTC
If you can already fly a Proteus, why not use an Ishtar?

Or setup a drone based proteus? With the new ampy you can make a sentry proteus that still has a wicked tank and dps
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#11 - 2012-07-04 07:30:19 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
If you can already fly a Proteus, why not use an Ishtar?

Or setup a drone based proteus? With the new ampy you can make a sentry proteus that still has a wicked tank and dps


Problem with the Ishtar is I can't swiss army knifeify it. I've been using the Ishtar, but I want to scan and rat in the same ship. Which is supposed to be the advantage of t3s. The systems are just too big in this area so I need DSP, and the sentry ishtar requires me to totally strip it down to fit the expanded launcher. I've been doing the dual ship route. But Then when I finally find a sig, and go back 10 or more systems to get my ratting ship, when I get back someone already cleared or started the plex.

I am mainly looking at the Sentry Proteus because of the Serpentis space I live in, but since Blood space is nearby and a good place to go when this region is to active, I thought it might be best to get a ship that should be good dealing with both. Thus this thread. The main reason I trained Gallante and drones to begin with was because I liked how versatile drone ships usually are. But the Ishtar really does need more CPU.

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Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2012-07-04 08:03:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Roime
Downsides of the sentry Proteus compared to Ishtar along with the bandwidth issue are small drone bay (no room for two sets of sentries+mediums) and lack of mids to fit two Omnis and profession module.

EDIT: The Augmented Capacitor Reservoir subsys also gives +5% drone MWD speed/lvl, which is obviously more useful with heavy drones.

Anyway, two ideas, first a traditional-ish hisec version with sentries:

[Proteus, Explorer 1rep Sentry]

Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Deep Space Scanner Probe
Small Tractor Beam I
Salvager I

Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors


Garde II x4
Hobgoblin II x5
Curator II x4


And my wh/low/null swiss army fit:

[Proteus, Explorer 1rep]

Corpum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Federation Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Damage Control II
Armor Explosive Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Scrambler II

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Sisters Combat Scanner Probe
Improved Cloaking Device II
Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Nanobot Accelerator I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Proteus Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Proteus Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Proteus Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Proteus Offensive - Drone Synthesis Projector
Proteus Propulsion - Localized Injectors


Ogre II x4
Warrior SW-300 x5
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

EDIT#2 - corrected a terrible error: swapped 1 EANM to DCU II on both fits. Always a suitcase on Gal ships.

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Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#13 - 2012-07-04 12:01:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Sweet, I appreciate it. I'm gonna be at sea for a few days. But will give those fits a try when I get back.

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