EVE General Discussion

I am not sure how you posting at a third grade level is improved by you actually being older, but ********

Yeah, and everyone that owns an Erebus would just switch to a different titan. Everyone that owns a Nyx would switch to another supercarrier. Everyone that owns a Rorqual would just use an Orca. Right?

Yeah, stop pretending to have a clue about what the **** you're talking about.

Likewise.

If you'd taken 30 extra seconds to read you would have seen that I made and covered that point. I also made the point that yes, Gallente towers have bonuses, but if the ice dried up, it just means some extra work for moongoo harvesters switching towers temporarily. You and your mates didn't see that either did you?

But really, unless you guys are prepared to lock the ice down for months and months, it will be no more than a blip for most people. The whole campaign is just kindygarten bully boy stuff and is about as exciting as watching a dog **** on a tree.

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But hey, I accept the thread consensus on this. It was a question I was curious about and I think it was answered quite clearly.

c'est la vie

PS: Thank you to the guys that added constructive commentary.

Seriously (well yeah nothing here is serious) why DONT you guys start wardeccing their corps? The panic youd create with that, the biggest null sec corp in the game war decs their high sec carebear corp, you wanna keep them outta the belts, theres a way lol
They'll just stop undocking

the pinnacle of griefing is the eula lawyer threads, once you get those you know you done good

A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making others’ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account.

This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two (or more) players, such as corporation wars. The EVE universe is a harsh universe largely driven by such conflict and notice must be taken of the fact that nonconsensual combat alone is not considered to be grief play per the above definition.

An example of grief play would be the so called "Can baiting" in starter systems. An experienced player drops a cargo container with some items in front of a station in a starter system and waits for a new player to take from it. The new player is flagged and promptly attacked and killed by the owner of the container. Doing the same in starter tutorial complexes is also considered grief play and will not be tolerated.

If you are going to quote the rules, quote the whole rule, it isn't long. One line out of context distorts the rule.



Goonswarm Federation is profiting from this action in many ways, therefore it is not griefing.

1. We're making money manipulating the isotope market. Immediate profit.


2. If the price spikes hard enough, it may become worthwhile to mine ice in nullsec for long term profit. Most goons have no interest in mining, but some of our member corps might. (I'm looking at you, Thunderwaffe.) Of course we have allied alliances that do like to mine, and just happen to control the right kind of ice. An amazing coincidence? No.


3. If the interdiction is successful, it become more expensive to run gallente caps, supercaps, jump frieghters and rorquels. Potentially a major strategic and logistical advantage for any alliances that knew about it ahead of time and stocked up below 450. We're at war, if our enemies are inconvenience that is a strategic benefit for us.


4. Secondary affects on reaction towers and T2 goods will also benefit us.


5. Many of these ice miners are bots, and having them continue to warp back and forth between the belts and the station, mining in in their pods is pretty good evidence that they are bots. Popping miners and seeing which ones at like bots allows us to report them to CCP and hopefully get them shut down. Getting rid of bots benefits everyone.

Some goons are having a great time and don't care about the big picture at all, some of those goons might even be in our directorate. But there is a big picture, and we are getting more out of this than just tears. As long as we are getting any in-game benefit at all, the rules say it isn't griefing. Sorry.

The whole campaign is just kindygarten bully boy stuff and is about as exciting as watching a dog **** on a tree.

They're just causing general havoc (or well… trying to, at least) and having fun (and profit) in the process, all of which is entirely legal. In fact, one might even say that they're playing EVE in its purest form. Again, they're not interfering with the game experience — they provide it...