Missions & Complexes

Well i started to run my lvl 4s for the first time and well it was all going well and then the DPS started and holy cow
Im not sure if my fits are the problem or lack of some major skills if anyone could please take a look at my toon i will link the skill sheet and tell me what i should fly and if i can do the lvl 4s im playing solo at the min so i need to be able to take the DPS

http://eveboard.com/pilot/jacoron
Mostly amarr Skilled but will be and have started to train into Caldari really want to get into the Tengu

Yeah what a Noobie i know but i was a miner for the first year of playing eve i sold my Miner toon and got this guy but now im like well holy cow what do i do so please dont troll any advice would be nice

Well im flying the apoc at the min and well the fit was bad lol very bad Im wanting to fly caldari ships my missile skills are not too bad its my shield that sucks right now

Not meant as a troll. I just am not good at giving advice, other than that toon should have plenty of skills to solo LVL 4's.

I wish there was a way to import an eveboard toon into evemon. Would be alot easier to figure out the details.

I think you need to fit some periods. Good Lord.

Seriously though, your fit would help as your skills aren't terrible.

Have a gold star!
Your post was totally unhelpful.

Without seeing the fit and knowing what mission you were running, there is nothing to talk about.

I started running L4 in typhoon while skilling up for raven. Took me hours to do l4 mission, lost a couple of ships while learning how to fit them.

Perhaps you should refrain from commenting in a help thread if you're not good at giving advice?


OP: Regardless of your SP accumulation, I would bring in a few buddies to help you while you learn the ropes. In much the same way that mining is not challenging at all, so too are level 4 missions, but to the unexperienced there are a few things (aggro management primarily) that can catch out the uninitiated.


Good luck, and as I always say - the best ship in the whole game is the good ship Friendship.

Ok my bad guys i had to log off last night
im running missions for caldari im fighting Few different foe's i do not have a fit set up at the min as i said my ships are sat naked in the hanger at the min i linked the skill sheet to see if anyone had a idea of a fit i could use on any ship that i could run the lvl4s solo im guessing its going to be amarr as i have the most skills in that field

Well if you're going to fly the apocc or any ammar BS for missions, T2 large lasers are very important, perhaps more so than the other races because you're going to need to use the T2 scorch ammo in order to hit most of the enemies that will orbit you at ranges over 40 km or so.

Since you said the incoming dps was a problem, telling us which missions you were running would be helpful, because as previous posters have said, some missions can be much deadlier than others if you have not read up on the mission beforehand on evesurvival. If you're not familiar with the term 'trigger' that is being used a lot, it is referring to the way in which new enemy ships come in during the mission. For example, if you warp in to a mission and there is 1 battleship, 2 cruisers, and 4 frigates, and evesurvival notes that the frigate is the 'trigger', when you kill the battleship a new wave of enemies will come in while you are still fighting the first, which can get really bad really fast.

The way to counter this is to figure out which ships in the mission trigger the next wave to come in upon their death, and leave them until last so you are fighting the fewest number of ships at a time. Eve survival also tells you what types of damage the npcs will be doing to you, which is very important. For example, a mission against Serpentis pirates will deal kinetic and thermal damage to you. This means that you need to put thermal and kinetic hardeners on your ship first and foremost.

Here is an example of a basic apocalypse fit you could use for missions:

High slots:
8x mega pulse laser II - scorch for long range / multifrequency for close orbiting enemies

Mid slots:
4x cap recharger II

Low slots:
3x heat sink II
1x armor kinetic hardener II
2x armor thermic hardener II
1x Large armor repairer II

Rigs:
2x capacitor control circuit I


This fit gives you decent dps at good ranges, and also can permanently run the large armor repairer. Notice that it has 3 hardeners, two for the primary damage type of serpentis pirates (thermal) and one for the secondary type (kinetic). Make sure you're bringing tech II drones so that you can kill of frigates that warp scramble you first so you can bail if things go south. You will want to switch the hardeners for every mission based on which damage types you're going to be dealt.

Once you are comfortable with the missions and the amount of tank you have on, you will be able to upgrade to better ships / fits that have more dps to complete missions faster with less tank, which is the overall goal.

Ammar ships are really the most restrictive choice for missions, because lasers always do EM and Thermal damage, which isnt very good against most of the pirates you will fight unless you are doing missions in ammar space vs. sansha and blood raiders. Caldari ships are good mission runners, but it takes some skills and good fits to get them to do as much dps as other races sometimes, and they too are not as good against different enemy types.

Hopefully you found some of this helpful, fly safe