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Palolko Dwimer
CHON
THE R0NIN
#61 - 2012-07-03 01:24:34 UTC
Asakura Manji wrote:
If you watch the match, his e-warp doesn't start until 12 seconds into the match. For those 12 seconds he's sitting with 0 velocity. Surely he would have been stopped by the bubble if there was one up?


Srry man, it doesn't work like that. Its same mechanics as with dictor bubbles - if you 've already initiated warp (got disconnected), later bubble effect won't catch you, therefore he warp out with some delay (12s into the match).
Asakura Manji
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#62 - 2012-07-03 11:24:22 UTC
Palolko Dwimer wrote:
Srry man, it doesn't work like that. Its same mechanics as with dictor bubbles - if you 've already initiated warp (got disconnected), later bubble effect won't catch you, therefore he warp out with some delay (12s into the match).


My point was that since he doesn't move until 12 seconds in, he obviously hadn't initiated e-warp until after the bubble was meant to be up.
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Perkone
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-07-03 15:12:43 UTC
W0wbagger wrote:
We don't care about reimbursement for the ship or SP but it's pretty clear the mechanics have been changed (for the better) as a result of what happened to us in the fight. We'd be moaning about a rematch but it's not exactly fair on Tribal Conclave who were good sports and did nothing wrong and any other arrangement (say a rematch where Tribal keep their points) would no doubt become unfair to everyone else in the tournament and set a precedent.

At the end of the day kudos to CCP for fixing this issue, just kind of happened a bit late for us. We got some points at least so we'll try and qualify regardless.

Will stop filling up the forums with butthurt now, cheers to Veritas for the responses.


It certainly sucks a lot for you guys, but major props for being good sports about this issue. I sincerely hope that not only do you fight like lions on your next match, but that you also win it and go through the prelims.

No sig.
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#64 - 2012-07-03 15:43:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Messoroz
CCP Veritas wrote:
Ottersmacker wrote:
If you change it, what will you say to Shadow Cartel (who arguably lost pretty much because of this)?

Surely the change should go into effect only after the qualifier stages to assure everyone qualifies on equal terms.

The Shadow Cartel pilot did not log back in until the match was completed, so it wouldn't have mattered in that case what we did.

The most I'll do at this point is give Sreegs the ability to activate the bubble manually before the match begins for when there's a gap in time before match start after the teams are on grid. There's still the possibility then that the ship will disappear as they won't have any aggression on them at this point.


Wait, so it is a exploit that I catch carrier bots in null that log off in my bubbles without aggressing anything directly? Log off in anchored type bubble => aggro themselves
CCP Veritas
C C P
C C P Alliance
#65 - 2012-07-03 16:18:10 UTC
Tourney bubbles aren't your typical bubbles.

CCP Veritas - Technical Director - EVE Online
Rer Eirikr
The Scope
#66 - 2012-07-03 16:51:07 UTC
Hopefully the Cartel can pull out a FLAWLESS VICTORY in the next round and move on, I'd like to see them given a chance at 0wnZone redemption.
Lucindeh
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-07-03 22:45:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Lucindeh
CCP Veritas wrote:
The rules around ewarp are strange, and the code even stranger.

The warp bubble being activated is an automatic process, for anyone who's thinking this was referee error. So the good news is, if it's broken in some way, it was broken for everyone.

In any case, the rule is ships that ewarp out go boom. Sucks but that's what happened.

Now, the good news. As I was looking through the code wrapping my head around the sequence of events, I found a very simple switch I can pull that kills all emergency warps in the tournament system. Very similar to the way I killed the entrance-warp when y'all get moved into system.

The downside to that is that disconnects pre-match will be much less noticeable from our end. Worth the trade off?


OMG, what a ...
Anyway, bagger just asked me to not say what I think.
So... well, you know
jiantsquidz
Stripers Of New Eden
#68 - 2012-07-03 22:50:11 UTC
Rer Eirikr wrote:
Hopefully the Cartel can pull out a FLAWLESS VICTORY in the next round and move on, I'd like to see them given a chance at 0wnZone redemption.



2nd that
NinjaTurtle
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2012-07-07 01:18:11 UTC
Great idea, +1. Maybe put a time limit on it or something.