Player Features and Ideas Discussion

just no!! its hard to catch a good pilot already. Go and learn the 100 ways to skip a gate camp.

Yes, but if you simply let go they all will.

For anyone who's planned their route this is pretty much the case already, if I understand what you're suggesting.

Generally, if you're the sort who prepares a route you make bookmarks off the gate so you can warp to it, scan ahead and then decide how to approach. If you're really prepared you have above and below BMs for each gate in your journey so if the gate has been camped you can approach from a direction unlikely to be bubbled or watched from.

For me, I just wing it but that's why my kill/loss ratio is so terrible.

Personally I don't think handing people an easier way to avoid gatecamps is a good thing, even though it would improve my ratio. There are already plenty of ways to do it if you're willing to prepare or just read up on it.

At a guess, he's fed up of being drag-bubbled. But then, there are ways around that.

I'm not sure what you're suggesting! It sounds like your asking for the jump in range (the range between you and the gate when you jump in a system) to be extended from 12 km's to 300 km's....

One, this is rediculous... and has been posted before...

Problems:
A.) Gang cohesiveness... It becomes stupid and impractical to bring one gang through a gate to engage another gang... ALL your ships will be spread out in a huge 300ish km's sphere... meaning that every ship will be isolated, far from the assistance of fleet mates. This would have a huge impact on gang warfare.... (some good, but mostly bad IMO).

B.) The 12 km's jump in is from the gate... Do you know there are different size gates (standard, constellation, and regional sized)? Regional gates are huge, such that you'll easily end up 30+ km's from a foe waiting on the gate to catch new comers. These don't stop gate camps, so why do you think your uber 300km jump in range will?

C.) Why is stopping gate camps a good thing? It might be hard to get through a severe gate camp, or to get a big ship through a gate camp... but small ships and cloaky ships already navigate 90% of all gate camps with ease.... Jump travel makes bypassing them trivial, and frankly, I don't particular see what you're improving?? (<-- This change makes it impractical to "chase" an enemy, as they go from gate to gate, becuase you are statistically extremely unlikely to spawn in tackle range... You're essentially creating 99% safe travel for all ships in the game...)

D.) Drag bubbles will still catch all those nooblets, so again... what are you really accomplishing with the radical change???

I actually like the idea of increasing the the range of the jump landing point when using gates. Gate camping is essentially zone camping and as such it is pretty lame. However, other changes would need to happen to make conflict more likely at other location such as removing Local Chat's Intel function.

You missed out on a 'space like' because you perpetuated an all too often lie repeated by ignorant posters and statistical voodoo practitioners. It's Percentage of Characters not Players you're quoting from QEN. If you don't understand the difference you shouldn't be suggesting anything on these forums, even stuff I happen to like.